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SonicXtreme

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,713
What's the verdict on Estoc in this game? Viable for a pure dex or quality build? I have the Great Scythe, which I know is ridiculous, but I'm bored of its move set. And I can't get the Balder Side Sword to drop.
try the uchikatana or whatever it's called, by kiling the burg vendor or by buying it from the dude in the forest covenant (this is a little more complicated)
 

stat84

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
3,036
I'm late to the party. How did this port turn out? Don't know if I will wait for switch or not...

I am playing on ps4 and it's great.Lots of people to coop and invade which is the main reason i bought this day 1(plus 60fps make areas like Blighttown a joy to play).

I will also definetely get the Switch version too unless it's a disaster.
 

Zoph

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,516
Had a weird glitch. The Trophy for killing Gwyndolin popped as I was getting kicked out of a Darkmoon invasion (host challenged boss). Gwyndolin is still alive in my game and nothing's keeping me from offering to the covenant, so not sure what happened.
 

angelgrievous

Middle fingers up
Member
Nov 8, 2017
9,141
Ohio
Just had my first bs moment in the game. Typically if you die, it's because you did something wrong, these games are usually fair in that regard but...

I was going through Sen's Fortress and had cleared all the enemies in the first part of the area. I moved the rolling ball to shoot out the window so I could explore. I went back through the area and grabbed what I needed and on the way back up the f'ing ball shot down another path and killed me. WTF? Nothing was alive to move the contraption so what the hell happened? Ugh, so heated right now.

Of course I was upset and I tried to get back to where I was as quickly as I could and died to a freaking swinging axe thing. Might have to put this down for now.

Edit* Okay, maybe I didn't kill everything.
 
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Chekhonte

User banned for use of an alt-account
Banned
Oct 31, 2017
1,886
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Chicken Knight loves life.
 

SpartacusMD

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
667
Does the game feel outdated to anyone?

I want to get it but I'm afraid that after bloodborne and Ds3 it will feel old.
 

Deleted member 5596

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
7,747
Giant Dad: The Legend never dies - Ch. 2

Got my Chaos zwei, Favor Of Protection and Havel Ring. Honestly the fact you can alter so much the normal path with the master key is really cool, gives a level of freedom that definetly DS3 dosn't have, but I can see why it was cut in the later games. I basically skipped big chunks of the game and my character is ready for Sen Fortress.


Giant Dad v 0.5

Does the game feel outdated to anyone?

I want to get it but I'm afraid that after bloodborne and Ds3 it will feel old.

You can feel how much improved the combat in later entries are, but is still a delightfully designed game.
 

burgerdog

Member
Oct 27, 2017
9,247
Sen's fortress has to be one of the best zones across all souls/bb games, right? So many secrets and the combination of traps is just so good.
 

Xiaomi

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,237
Ceaseless Discharge, what the fuck. His flame jet can glitch out and one-shot me, but not always. Sometimes it only does like a third of my health. I never had a problem in all my playthroughs until now. I mean, I still beat him by dodging right instead of left, but tell me I'm not crazy and he's different now. Or maybe I just managed to git bad after all these years :(
 

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
Member
Oct 24, 2017
34,403
There's weapon matchmaking, it's possible you're in a higher tier than normal for your area (https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls/comments/8m5z90/weapon_matchmaking_is_implemented_in_the_worst/). If you lucked into any black knight weapons or have been upgrading your pyromancy flame for example, it seems that that can really screw you over.
Is it true that your chances of being invaded are slim to none if you have weapons like the Drake sword or the black knight sword? I used the Drake sword for the gargoyles and then dropped it for the BK Sword. I've never had someone invade me and I reversed hollowing several times. What's up with that?
Weird. I got the BK halberd drop and had no issues constantly invading people.

I'm sometimes invaded, too, though not THAT much (almost more by Smurf cops than Darkwraiths), and hmm, it does take some time for my sign to get picked up, I guess? But it'd be weird if the weapon matchmaking didn't include invasions, that shit makes no sense. I have a +4 BK halberd and have been invading non-stop in Depths, Blighttown and Sen's. Seriously, no wait in-between uses of the red orb, it's ~amazing~.

Blighttown was so fun to invade, I think I'll go back. Sen's can be annoying to navigate haha.

Where can i get the Soul Reaver?
The closest you can find is the Flamberge, which is a drop (semi-rare, but not too bad) from the lightning-spewing snakespeople in Sen's. You can also buy it from Shiva of the East if you joined the Forest covenant (he's hanging out in Blighttown near the elevator and sells stuff there).

Giant Dad: The Legend never dies - Ch. 2
I won't lie, I'm a bit disappointed that you'd just trendily follow the lamest meme this series has ever generated. :P
 

Red Liquorice

Member
Oct 27, 2017
9,082
UK
What's the verdict on Estoc in this game? Viable for a pure dex or quality build? I have the Great Scythe, which I know is ridiculous, but I'm bored of its move set. And I can't get the Balder Side Sword to drop.
Estoc is great, rapiers are my jam though.

You could also get a Bandit Knife from the thieves in Lower Undead Burg if you like parrying it has high crit. damage, iirc it has bleed too.
 

myzhi

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,650
Just had my first bs moment in the game. Typically if you die, it's because you did something wrong, these games are usually fair in that regard but...

I was going through Sen's Fortress and had cleared all the enemies in the first part of the area. I moved the rolling ball to shoot out the window so I could explore. I went back through the area and grabbed what I needed and on the way back up the f'ing ball shot down another path and killed me. WTF? Nothing was alive to move the contraption so what the hell happened? Ugh, so heated right now.

Of course I was upset and I tried to get back to where I was as quickly as I could and died to a freaking swinging axe thing. Might have to put this down for now.

Edit* Okay, maybe I didn't kill everything.
Yes, that ball rolling about turns back if you go back every time. Happens in DS and DSR. It's stupid, but once you know, you will be prepare for it.
 

SuperYlvis

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,661
Is there a reason not to modify my Zweihander into a Lightning Zewihander? Pros and cons? If I modify will I still be able to get it to 15+?
 

99humanity

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,996
wtf, just lost a ton of souls in painted world and I'm not even sure how I died. Left the game running (while hollow+boss is dead) and when I came back I'm at the bonfire with 0 souls. Retraced my steps and went all over looking for it. Couldn't find it anywhere and died from falling. Should have had a ring of sacrifice on

Is there a reason not to modify my Zweihander into a Lightning Zewihander? Pros and cons? If I modify will I still be able to get it to 15+?

You will lose all stat scaling if you go with lightning, so you cant bring it to regular +15 but rather a +5 lightning version. You won't get bonuses from your dex/strength, so it's really only a better choice if you only have the minimal requirements for the Zwei or close to it. It'll still be pretty decent though
 

DmckPower

Member
Feb 1, 2018
2,266
Not to be a negative nancy, I think the remaster is a welcome port, but some aspects are glaringly lazy man.

The status of this game deserves much more.

Easily the best way to play now ,but they should've put in some more effort.
 

ZangBa

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,040
I'm not sure that weapon matchmaking reddit post is true. I've been invading with little delay before the gargoyles with a Chaos Zweihander+5. According to the post, I probably shouldn't be able to invade anyone that isn't also twinking, which has definitely not been the case.
 

Red Liquorice

Member
Oct 27, 2017
9,082
UK
^ It's a random drop, but do you have any soft humanity? (The number in the HUD top left). Humanity increases item discovery (up to a max of 10) and defenses. Just having one will increase your item discovery a sizeable amount, the other 9 are much smaller incriments.


What's the quickest way back to Quelaggs domain from firelink shrine?
New Londo > Valley Of Drakes. Provided you have the Master Key or have previously unlocked the gate between those two areas. If not Parish > Darkroot > VoD.
 

Kasey

Member
Nov 1, 2017
10,822
Boise
Slighly better damage but negligible. Some different moveset.

Chaos Blade is the best katana btw. It does self damage though, but it'd manageable.
You need to pop like 10 humanity as well to get it to full damage output.

Washing pole is a decent choice too, but I don't think it's as strong as it's DS2 and 3 versions.
 

Kalik

Banned
Nov 1, 2017
4,523
I hear there's an alternate cutscene in the Sif boss fight if you free him in the Chasm of the Abyss (DLC)...but I don't understand how to do this...I want to side with Darkstalker Kaathe but there's no way of entering the DLC area unless you get the item from Duke's Archives which is locked until you place the Lordvessel...but there's no way I can see to place the Lordvessel and side with Kaathe before completeting Four Kings (which requires defeating Sif first)...hope that all makes sense...is there a way of siding with Kaathe and getting the alternate Sif cutscene?
 

Jimnymebob

Member
Oct 26, 2017
19,650
I hear there's an alternate cutscene in the Sif boss fight if you free him in the Chasm of the Abyss (DLC)...but I don't understand how to do this...I want to side with Darkstalker Kaathe but there's no way of entering the DLC area unless you get the item from Duke's Archives which is locked until you place the Lordvessel...but there's no way I can see to place the Lordvessel and side with Kaathe before completeting Four Kings (which requires defeating Sif first)...hope that all makes sense...is there a way of siding with Kaathe and getting the alternate Sif cutscene?

I don't think that'd work. Maybe on NG+ if you keep the items, but I can't remember if that's the case or not.
 

Deleted member 176

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
37,160
I went through all of Anor Londo with the same guy, I got greedy on the last hit to Smough and died. I feel so bad lol
 

Xtortion

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,652
United States
Just finished with all bosses. I think it took less than 20 hours?

This is a pretty good remaster. Graphics are sharp and the framerate is smooth. The Blighttown experience aside, it didn't really do much to change my opinion, though. I think Dark Souls is ultimately a great game. I think it's also brutally uneven and even a bit sluggish when compared to Demon's, BB and Dark 3.

Everyone knows the first half is pretty gud. Undead Asylum is the best dedicated tutorial area in the series, Undead Burg/Parish is solid (though still far behind Central Yharnam/1-1/High Wall imo), and Depths/Blighttown/Sens are all great, along with the first half of Anor Londo before you get into the cathedral. After that...ehhhhhh. Okay, Painted World is definitely a highlight - it's an absurdly dense, self contained experience with clever design and killer atmosphere. I wish I felt the same way about the other areas, though. Duke's Archives is shockingly a lot shorter than I remembered, and outside of the two rotating staircases it's essentially just a couple big rooms with not a whole lot happening. Demon Ruins/Lost Izalith are dreck, and I had quite the awful experience with Tomb of the Giants since it took forever to get a skull lantern drop from the Catacombs necromancers (not that Tomb's level design is particularly impressive on its own merits). Speaking of Catacombs, that's a neat little area. I don't love it, but it's aight...same with New Londo, though visibility could stand to be cranked up just a bit in there.

DLC was ok. Royal Wood is super duper meh imo. Oolacile Township is one of the game's better areas from a level design standpoint, but my god is it fucking ugly. At least the bosses are really consistent with the big three there. Not my favorite boss fights in the series when considering how FROM's boss design has evolved, but for Dark Souls 1 fights they're pretty good.

The sluggishness of the gameplay got me good. I didn't remember that the sprint speed in this game is so goddamn slow, which is especially problematic since DS1 has the most backtracking by far, and it can make re-traversing areas and boss runbacks a Goddamn Slog™. Attacks are also a bit slower than in most of the series - even Demon's. Attack startup and recovery feel just a few frames too long in most cases. I eventually adjusted, but definitely don't prefer DS1's combat to the razor sharpness of BB/DS3 or the more arcadey feel of Demon's.

Where Dark Souls excels is demanding a higher level of thinking from the player. Thanks to the interconnected world, it's never just what you're doing in the now, but where you went previously, where you're going, and the other goals you want to accomplish at some point. Some of the other games capture a bit of this when they open up in the late game (BB/DS3), but never to the same extent as DS1. In DS1, the player always has to consider their mental list of tasks and how navigation can connect them together. It's neat, and I wish that style of world would come back with a better suite of levels. Or maybe an interconnected world is just at odds with making each individual area a knockout, and that's why they haven't attempted it again. The world may never know.

BB > DS3 > Demon's > DS1 > DS2
 

CloudWolf

Member
Oct 26, 2017
15,642
Having a lot of fun (again). I love how active the multiplayer is, was really LTTP with Prepare to Die Edition, so I can finally experience all that awesome co-op. Had a really great time today just doing Four Kings over and over again.

Anyway, just beat Bed of Chaos and that's still as shitty as always. Now I'm a bit worried I'm superoverlevelled for the DLC and Painted World though, so probably no co-op fun to be had there haha
 

Clay

Member
Oct 29, 2017
8,115
Uuuuuugh, I got cursed in the Depths. Gaping Dragon can one-shot me with its tail swipe. So fucking annoying. I still love the game but it does lose a lot of the magic when you've already experienced it. I really don't want to have to run all the way back to the chapel to buy a Purging Stone, think I might just drop this for now and come back after I play Detroit.

Rookie mistake, I should have bought a stone when I rang the bell. But man, those goddamn basilisks are one of the biggest "Fuck you" moments in the series, it's ridiculous how much you're punished by getting cursed.