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Gaming_Groove

Member
Apr 4, 2018
2,813
I'm not loving the combat system in this game. They really stepped their game up with DS2 and later games in that respect. I loved playing UGS in DS2/3, but in DS1 the limited moveset is really putting a damper on my fun :/ Should probably switch to another sword type.
I'm the complete opposite lol. I hate UGS in DS2, mostly because of the changes to lock-on. I love heavy melee weapons in games (DS1, MH greatsword, etc), but something is really off with DS2 for me. I like them in DS3 though.
 

.exe

Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,266
I'm the complete opposite lol. I hate UGS in DS2, mostly because of the changes to lock-on. I love heavy melee weapons in games (DS1, MH greatsword, etc), but something is really off with DS2 for me. I like them in DS3 though.

Fair enough. It's been a while since I played DS2. What changed about the lock on? I honestly don't even remember using it that often.
 

Hixx

Member
Oct 25, 2017
833
People dying to Capra before you can even get through the gate to help them. So many people wanting to be summoned here too so it takes a few minutes to be chosen as well :(
 

Zealuu

Member
Feb 13, 2018
1,190
Plodded my way from the first Anor Londo bonfire through to killing Ornstein & Smough today, both as the recipient of help and as a golden phantom. The dragon arrow archer guys were as lame as I remembered, but I'd kind of forgotten what an absolute bastard of a fight O&S is, even if it's frequently exhilarating and well made. From a design perspective I think it's the one that's really meant to make you get on board with using summons ... Even NPC summons help by offtanking, even though Solaire -never- dodges the AoE.

I always get this sort of "Dark Souls Ennui" after finishing O&S because now I have to make choices about where to go instead of just moving forward.
 

Deleted member 8861

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Oct 26, 2017
10,564
I think the diversity of environments in Darks Souls easily puts it over the top. I loved the thrill of discovering each new environment as I worked my way through DS1...something that Bloodborne never managed to do for me. Every area sorta blended together for me, so much so that I have difficulty remembering any of them.
I feel you, hahaha. I felt that Bloodborne could use some aesthetical variety, myself, and I do like that about Dark Souls 1 in comparison. But that samey color palette makes Bloodborne more cohesive and any aesthetic variety is in the

phases of the moon. Central Y. -> Cathedral Ward -> Old Y. does start to look samey after a while though, yeah. And I say this as someone who adores Bloodborne's design in every way, especially those few early areas.
 

Markitron

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
12,510
Ireland
Non-hot take list of bad areas in the game:

- Lost Izalith
- Tomb of Giants
- Demon Ruins
- Lower Undead Burg

And I think that's it. The game has always been a bit frontloaded with good content, but the majority of areas is really good. Bloodborne and DaS 3 are certainly more consistent though.
I'm struggling to think of 1 area in BB that isn't utterly fantastic. Imagine creating an area as good as Cainhurst and not only making it optional, but to make the method of accessing it pretty obscure.

phases of the moon. Central Y. -> Cathedral Ward -> Old Y. does start to look samey after a while though, yeah. And I say this as someone who adores Bloodborne's design in every way, especially those few early areas.
I thought those areas were perfectly designed. They were just unique enough while still looking like they were right next to each other.
 

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Oct 26, 2017
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I'm struggling to think of 1 area in BB that isn't utterly fantastic. Imagine creating an area as good as Cainhurst and not only making it optional, but to make the method of accessing it pretty obscure.
Hemwick is a bit meh. Nightmare Frontier and Yahar'gul are pretty underwhelming, too. Particularly Yahar'gul (post-Rom) kinda sucks. Reused enemies, uninspired aesthetics (the moon's wasted on such a drab design), boring. Same thing with the Frontier- it's too samey.
 

Markitron

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
12,510
Ireland
Hemwick is a bit meh. Nightmare Frontier and Yahar'gul are pretty underwhelming, too. Particularly Yahar'gul (post-Rom) kinda sucks. Reused enemies, uninspired aesthetics (the moon's wasted on such a drab design), boring. Same thing with the Frontier- it's too samey.
I might give you the Nightmare Frontier, but the Unseen Village and Hemwick were fantastic IMO. The bell-ringers really stressed me out, and I loved the aesthetic of Hemwick.
 

Gaming_Groove

Member
Apr 4, 2018
2,813
Fair enough. It's been a while since I played DS2. What changed about the lock on? I honestly don't even remember using it that often.
If you hold a direction after a roll and then attack you swing in that direction. It's not a big thing, but I feel that if you are locked on you should always remain in point relational movement to your target. It sometimes messes me up when I roll in, attack, and roll out because I'll end up swinging in the direction of my roll out because I'm trying to queue the roll. I can adjust to it, but it doesn't feel good to me...basically have to go to neutral on the stick when attacking. I get why they made that change, but if I wanted to be able to aim my swing I would just unlock.
 

TheWordyGuy

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,623
I've never made it to Ornstein and Smough. Maybe this time though. Is it doable without summoning?

Because with this run I want to solo all the bosses. I fully understand now the importance of levelling really good equipment. This Great Scythe that I acquired thirty minutes into the game has made a massive difference.
 

flyinj

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,979
I love that you can scale the UI.

However, why in the hell do they also scale the full screen info pages when you do it to make them smaller? Why would anyone ever want to make a full screen page you need to read harder to read?
 
Oct 25, 2017
12,466
I've never made it to Ornstein and Smough. Maybe this time though. Is it doable without summoning?

Because with this run I want to solo all the bosses. I fully understand now the importance of levelling really good equipment. This Great Scythe that I acquired thirty minutes into the game has made a massive difference.
Yes it is doable solo for sure. I did it on PS3 version and I'm not very good lol but it did take quite a few attempts.
 

Deleted member 8861

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Oct 26, 2017
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I've never made it to Ornstein and Smough. Maybe this time though. Is it doable without summoning?

Because with this run I want to solo all the bosses. I fully understand now the importance of levelling really good equipment. This Great Scythe that I acquired thirty minutes into the game has made a massive difference.
It's definitely doable without summoning. But there might and will be blood, sweat and tears down that path. And it's priceless. :D
 

Ferrs

Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
18,829
I've never made it to Ornstein and Smough. Maybe this time though. Is it doable without summoning?

Because with this run I want to solo all the bosses. I fully understand now the importance of levelling really good equipment. This Great Scythe that I acquired thirty minutes into the game has made a massive difference.

Of course it is. A proper upgraded Zweihander stunlock those fuckers.
 

Xtortion

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,652
United States
I might give you the Nightmare Frontier, but the Unseen Village and Hemwick were fantastic IMO. The bell-ringers really stressed me out, and I loved the aesthetic of Hemwick.

Yeah, Nightmare Frontier is maybe BB's weakest area (though it has the best name :p). But as far as Soulsborne poison swamps go, I'd still probably rank it second after 5-2. Still much prefer it to Blighttown's sparse second half and Farron Keep.

Hemwick is a fantastic area imo. Yeah, it's pretty linear, but that lets it act as an impeccably paced fun delivery system. Really like Yahar'gul, too. There's some varied encounter design with the bell women, dodging Amygdala lasers, and weaving between Crowded Casket blood projectiles. Its aesthetic is similar to Central Yharnam at first glance, but upon closer inspection its statues and other decorations are far more fucked up (not to mention the Amygdalas everywhere). Love it.
 

Alebrije

Member
Oct 27, 2017
310
After this remaster there is only one game that community is waiting : Demons Souls. Hope Sony give it a chance the same way the did with SOTC.
 

Alebrije

Member
Oct 27, 2017
310
People dying to Capra before you can even get through the gate to help them. So many people wanting to be summoned here too so it takes a few minutes to be chosen as well :(

Not only there , basically on every boss it's hard to be picked since lost of folks are helping...Even covenants are saturated.
 

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
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Oct 24, 2017
34,398
It's kill your babies with Bloodborne. Game is so damn consistent. Something's gotta be last place :l

I could maybe accept Cainhurst or Nightmare of Mensis being considered the worse area
Byrgenwerth, Lecture Hall and chalice dungeons are def. worse. And yeah I like Nightmare Frontier more than popular areas like Cainhurst, Mensis, Yahar'gul and a couple of others. Honestly one of my favourites, but it's also because of my first impression of it. The discovery of the full Lovecraftian dreamscape was just so fucking cool.

But this is for the Bloodborne OT, sorry!
 

dubq

Member
Oct 27, 2017
408
Man, how did I forget not to go after those graveyard skeletons w/o the mace at the very start. I love this game.
 

Capra

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,636
I never knew you could stop Artorias from going super saiyan. Definitely my favorite boss in the game.
 

Deleted member 8861

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Oct 26, 2017
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Forget how your supposed to get that item up above near the entrance of darkroot garden.
Go down into the wood where the stone knights are. There's a tree on one of the walls (to your immediate right after entering), you kill that and it gets you to a hidden area. From there, you follow a path and get to it.
 

Lt.Chips

Member
Nov 4, 2017
409
I want a Dark Souls Gaiden where we follow the epic adventures of Artorias, Ciaran, Ornstein, and Gough, as a nameless lieutenant to them. It could be a dating sim and I'd still be happy.
 

flyinj

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,979
Just got egged/cursed by a hacker.

So now I'm fucked? Softbanned and this character is useless?

Guess I'm done playing Dark Souls now.
 

Elliott

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,472
Right after I finished posting I saw
an area I could drop down to thanks to one of those weird looking frogs prowling below
and ended up finding it. Thanks for the responses though.
 

99humanity

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,996
Been co-oping pretty consistently just about everywhere at SL40. Artorias is such a great fight. It seems like they learned a lot from that boss, as some of the best bosses in DS2 and 3 feel pretty similar.

I died like 6 times to the sanctuary guardian this time around. You can delete him pretty quickly but man I just forgot all the safe times to attack.
 

Delroy

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,747
Seattle
Get the Scimitar from the merchant in the burg. In Blighttown you can find the Falchion that is slightly better. Both can be ascended later to the Furysword, that looks so nice for pyros. (my recomendation would be to ascend the Scimitar and keep the Falchion untouched for fire resistant enemies).



Pretty sure it's touched too. Enemies follow you more.


I've gotten a weapon up to +5, having trouble getting the titanite required to go past that point. Know of a good farming location for the required material? I saw a good drop location is Sen's Fortress, but that's where I'm at and having trouble damaging enemies which seems to be fairly common.
 

Loggjaw

Member
Oct 25, 2017
477
I hopefully will finally get some real good time in this game tonight. I am just refreshing this post like a loon bag.
 

.exe

Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,266
Just got egged/cursed by a hacker.

So now I'm fucked? Softbanned and this character is useless?

Guess I'm done playing Dark Souls now.

I believe you can get the egg removed. It's picking up hacked items that breaks your character I think? Are your stats still within normal ranges?
 

Blindy

Member
Nov 16, 2017
3,929
Non-hot take list of bad areas in the game:

- Lost Izalith
- Tomb of Giants
- Demon Ruins
- Lower Undead Burg

And I think that's it. The game has always been a bit frontloaded with good content, but the majority of areas is really good. Bloodborne and DaS 3 are certainly more consistent though.
Between the cheap fall deaths and deceiving fall spots, the mushrooms that try and push you off and their power hitting mommies and the basilisks that come in packs and can curse, The Great Hollow is just dreadful. Have to go through so much to get to Ash Lake and its Hydra hydro pumping cheese.