Really thought the time skip was kind of unfortunate. Really wanted to actually see what happened in the immediate aftermath.
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The Expanse - Season 3 - “It's a Legitimate Salvage”
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Literally in this case. I don't know if the series continues at all if Bezos didn't love the books.
That's some next level fanboyism xD
I posted this in my renewal news thread but then I realized it ought to get posted here instead. A marketer has done a fantastic deep dive into The Expanse's ratings, quality score, sustainability and more. It's... long.
https://destroythecomics.com/nerd-t...g-into-the-numbers-syfy-the-future-at-amazon/
https://destroythecomics.com/nerd-t...g-into-the-numbers-syfy-the-future-at-amazon/
The writers obviously took that measure to ensure they could race towards an open-ended conclusion in case the show died.
I think I'm not a huge fan of the time skip either. I've had several days to ruminate on it and that's where I'm falling. I've seen a lot of praise for its boldness, which is cool. I don't hate it. But I'd have preferred to see the aftermath. The way the show reads to me, the Secretary General's disgusting comment about his legacy being saved by Anna deserved immediate follow-up, Errinwright's trial deserved immediate follow-up, Avasarala's return to Earth deserved immediate follow-up, "Earth and Mars are friends now" deserved to be seen instead of told. I don't know, that's just how I feel. I haven't read the books this far so I have no idea which, if any, of these things will be shown in greater detail despite the time skip.
I totally get why the writers did this though. We were all fearful of the series' longevity, and rightly so. In a vacuum, I'd be glad for it. I hear-tell the first trilogy of books seals itself off at least a little, tiny bit, so yeah.
I totally get why the writers did this though. We were all fearful of the series' longevity, and rightly so. In a vacuum, I'd be glad for it. I hear-tell the first trilogy of books seals itself off at least a little, tiny bit, so yeah.
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Yeah, I guess I understand needing to get to "the end" (I don't know what that is either since I haven't read the books), but it feels like so much was skipped when they might have cut some of the stuff from the previous episodes to make some room for a fallout scene. Even a montage would have been nice to see.
As a book reader, I have to say that IIRC the books didn't really dig much deeper into the issues mentioned above.
It's been some time but I think they've just cut a lot of more or less superfluous content from the beginning of Abbadon's Gate but nothing significant, I remember Prax, Bobbie and Avasarala disappearing pretty suddenly too and Errinwright and Sorrento never had the same significance in the books.
Mind that there are several new characters introduced in this book, some that aren't in the series and others like Melba which were introduced more extensively but all in all I'd say it's a masterfully done timeskip.
It's been some time but I think they've just cut a lot of more or less superfluous content from the beginning of Abbadon's Gate but nothing significant, I remember Prax, Bobbie and Avasarala disappearing pretty suddenly too and Errinwright and Sorrento never had the same significance in the books.
Mind that there are several new characters introduced in this book, some that aren't in the series and others like Melba which were introduced more extensively but all in all I'd say it's a masterfully done timeskip.
Hannibal actually got revived for a fourth season but then Bryan Fuller left the project before it could be announced.
Lol
Same here, which sucks because he kind of feels like the lead (or most important) character in many ways. I also can't tell if my dislike for him is due to the material, the actor playing him, or both. I honestly don't want to fault the actor, but I also can't help feeling slight irritation with how gloomy he is as a lead. I dunno... Anyways it's a testament to the show that I still fucking love watching every single episode despite how I haven't been able to warm up to Holden's character 3 seasons in.
Idk either. I think it might be the actor. At first I hated Amos' character but he grew to be my favorite.
How do you skip some of the most interesting stuff in the universe you created? Oh well. lol
It's both for me. So glad that all the other characters have been given more screen time this season.
Showrunner Naren Shankar said this yesterday. Cool stuff, and it suggests we may indeed be seeing a budgetary rise for season 4. (Suggests; it by no means confirms it. I may be reading into things too much.)
Remember we're talking about two different books, Caliban's War ends just as the Gate lifts up from Venus and all the fallout from the wars is discussed briefly at the beginning of Abbadon's Gate but there's a substantial time skip from one book to another, so all that stuff is already old news for the characters and the world (the Ring is a big deal) by that time.
Naren's declarations are hype, let's hope the series can soar even higher with Amazon's budget.
To make the Game of Thrones comparison though, it'd be like skipping over a few years of plot after Ned Stark was killed. Oh well. lol
It's probably weirder because the time skip happens in the middle of a season instead of in a new season.
I think Holden's problem is the actor playing him. He is not bad, but every two scenes he is in he is with that WTF look. And he plays him much more naive than honored.
Agree on Amos. Really deslike him on season 1 and part of 2, but now he is great! Congrats to the actor. Also, he is second only to Alex.
Re: The time jump:
Seems completely reasonable to me. Other than "Earth and Mars are friends" seeming a little rushed, it seemed very natural to me.
Unrelated: How fast must the Nabou have been going when it missed Eros? I guess it would still be in orbit around the but I wonder if that's addressed more in the books.
Seems completely reasonable to me. Other than "Earth and Mars are friends" seeming a little rushed, it seemed very natural to me.
Unrelated: How fast must the Nabou have been going when it missed Eros? I guess it would still be in orbit around the but I wonder if that's addressed more in the books.
The Nauvoo was on it's way out of the solar system, I believe it was referenced in the show that it was important that they catch up and collect it quickly (because it would eventually be too far gone). In the book they specifically built high-speed ships to accomplish the task.
Spoilers, obviously:
It is the Slow Zone
http://expanse.wikia.com/wiki/Slow_Zone
His ship just went from the incredible speed it was going to 600 m/s instantly. His body didn't.
http://expanse.wikia.com/wiki/Slow_Zone
His ship just went from the incredible speed it was going to 600 m/s instantly. His body didn't.
Got it. The show didn't make any reference to it and I was certain at very least it was going very very fast.
According to my precise calculations.
Annoyingly formatted rather than long. Fascinating read. Thanks for posting.
Agree. I was thinking they could keep Prax as a main character in the show and send him there with Holden instead of the main crew and have it occur simultaneously to Nemesis Games.
I actually liked Cibola Burn but that's a pretty good idea.
Amos needs to be in both places ;p, cibola burn would be even more terrible without him and he is like the most important character of nemesis games as well.
SyFy uploaded a couple of those 360 interactive vids showing some of this season's sets - one of the Behemoth with Dominique Tipper and David Strathairn and another of the Thomas Prince/Agatha King with Elizabeth Mitchell. Warning the Elizabeth Mitchell one might be considered slightly vague spoilers.
He has more than one thing in common with Kit Harrington lol.
some physics questions regarding it
that scene got me thinking, how come it was
only him that got fucked by the sudden slow? shouldn't all the interior of the ship also experience that huge slowdown and i dunno? perhaps got ripped out or something?
Stupid country restrictions. Another good thing with Amazon picking up The Expanse... I won't have to deal with this BS region locking on promo stuff
Really shows off how important lighting and camera is. It's a nice set, but filmed with a lower res/360 camera, and standard lighting, the "magic" is gone, and all that's left is a set.
About to watch the Thomas Prince one.
I'll throw on the only The Expanse reaction crew that I know of (The Normies), just because I love them reacting to the Slingshot racer getting to the Ring
https://youtu.be/cNRW5ZuyQUo?t=1018
Edit: Yeah, that Thomas Prince one implies some stuff happens.
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reading the same wiki (below) it explains that the effect is a defense mechanism from the Ring Station and only affects the hull of the ships. Meaning that everything inside the ship (including the pilot) still behave normally and are subject to the inertia, so his body continue to move at high speed while the ship did not.
- The "speed limit" is described as an active defense mechanism of the Ring Station in Abaddon's Gate rather than a fundamental change in constants of nature. "The speed limit grips the hull of the ships but anything inside is unaffected." This effect is used as a key plot elements throughout Abbadon's Gate. Bullets fired from weapons behave normally inside ships. A grenade fired by a Martian marine on Ring Station though "comes to a halt and drops to the ground centimeters from the barrel." When the speed limit is dropped, crew and passengers are killed or injured due to the sudden deceleration of the ships hulls.
yeah that's why it doesn't make sense and i asked the question
the interiors of the ship in theory should be affected, not just the passengers
all things like chairs, tables, monitors etc should've been ripped out as well imo
all things like chairs, tables, monitors etc should've been ripped out as well imo
oh, I see your doubt now. Well, the ship is a sling ship designed to travel at very high speeds. He was probably traveling at top speed and everything inside should be heavily tied/attached (since going foward at that speed would generated serious G in the opposite direction). Some damaged must have been occurred inside the ship due to the sudden hull desaceleration too, but the camera focused on his chair at that scene, where we see that it is still secured in place and the remains of his body were ripped through the security belts. Basically the chair supported the sudden stop of the hull, but his body continue going forward, being ripped by the chair.
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