Page Six: Gal Gadot will only be ‘Wonder Woman’ again if Brett Ratner is out

Lyng · Nov 12, 2017

SArcher said:
How is Gal Gadot supporting her country/military any different from Americans supporting their troops/military?

The israeli army are NOT affraid to slaughter innocent civilians including women and children. They have been oppressing palestinians for years. Anyone supporting them should be called out. If our danish soldiers acted like that, I would never support them in any way.
Some people here clearly need to educate themselves on what modern day Israeli politics are really about.

SArcher · Nov 12, 2017

And the US army isn't constantly killing civilians (including women and children) with drone strikes and such? I'm not saying this makes any of it okay but I can understand how someone can support their own country in a conflict and not necessarily be a horrible person.

Deleted member 2809 · Nov 12, 2017

SpinningBirdKick said:
Gal Gadot showing she's got bigger balls than all the Avengers combined.

lmfao, you're really going to bring marvel/dc wars into this

Lyng · Nov 12, 2017

SArcher said:
And the US army isn't constantly killing civilians (including women and children) with drone strikes and such? I'm not saying this makes any of it okay but I can understand how someone can support their own country in a conflict and not necessarily be a horrible person.

Please read what she said and in relation to what attack.

DeathyBoy · Nov 12, 2017

This repeated "y'all need educating re Gal" thing is getting tiresome. We KNOW what she said, we just don't need it brought into every Gal/WW/DC thread. Because it's invariably not relevant to the topics at hand.

Now, BACK on topic... good for Gal. Using her leverage power to block a dirt bag like Ratner.

ZiZ · Nov 12, 2017

On one hand, she knows her job is safe. Ratner is already on the way out.

On the other hand maybe this move will convince other actresses and actors to be braver and stand up to pieces of shit like ratner.

But finally, I believe Gal Gadot is a terrible racist and supporter of genocide. (It wasn't just what she said, but also that she said it while thousands of children were being bombed).

Her Racism doesn't diminish the value of that specific action and that action does note soften her racism.

kristoffer · Nov 12, 2017

Lyng said:
The israeli army are NOT affraid to slaughter innocent civilians including women and children.

SArcher said:
And the US army isn't constantly killing civilians (including women and children) with drone strikes and such.

ZiZ said:
I believe Gal Gadot is a terrible racist and supporter of genocide.

Anybody else want to try to derail this thread?

SArcher · Nov 12, 2017

Lyng said:
Please read what she said and in relation to what attack.

This one from 2014?

"I am sending my love and prayers to my fellow Israeli citizens," she wrote. "Especially to all the boys and girls who are risking their lives protecting my country against the horrific acts conducted by Hamas, who are hiding like cowards behind women and children...We shall overcome!!! Shabbat Shalom! #weareright #freegazafromhamas #stopterror #coexistance #loveidf"

I don't see her advocating the killing of women or children. I guess the controversy comes from the fact that she believes these deaths are the result of the actions of Hamas whereas others think the IDF is solely responsible.

Lyng · Nov 12, 2017

Deleted member 11262 · Nov 12, 2017

CaviarMeths said:
No, it's actually not fine to intentionally derail every topic. That's why the last thread was locked.

I couldn't even open a topic regarding Colin Moriarty on this forum if I wanted (Mod statement in last Colin thread). That's great because he doesn't deserve any attention, but why is it that any criticism towards Gal Gadot gets buried under that "thread derailing" concern?
We're not derailing the thread. Members praise her and we give context. That's all there is to it and people should be able to do that, because no celebrity would get a pass if the moderation consider the action of said person shitty.
Everybody would have the right to shit on them, but in this case we have a moderation that doesn't even allow constructive criticism because they deem it "offtopic" (admittedly some go a bt above that). And that's not fine.

They need to acknowledge that a lot of people here have a problem with Gal Gadot, it's pretty obvious. This is not getting solved by warnings or bans. Let people discuss it like you would anywhere else. If it's too much...yeah use your power as a mod, go for it.

Angel DvA · Nov 12, 2017

that's a good opportunity to get ride of both, re-cast her then fired his predator ass, we all win from this.

We need to stop pretending she's a good person with good values, it's not the subject here and I won't talk about it more but still.

CaviarMeths · Nov 12, 2017

If WB replaces Gadot, there will be no chance for them to salvage the optics. She's already taken a public stance against Ratner. If she's replaces for WW2 and Ratner is still serving as a producer, then everyone will know what's up and probably burn WB at the stake for it.

Ginta · Nov 12, 2017

Dadasch said:
I couldn't even open a topic regarding Colin Moriarty on this forum if I wanted (Mod statement in last Colin thread). That's great because he doesn't deserve any attention, but why is it that any criticism towards Gal Gadot gets buried under that "thread derailing" concern?
We're not derailing the thread. Members praise her and we give context. That's all there is to it and people should be able to do that, because no celebrity would get a pass if the moderation consider the action of said person shitty.
Everybody would have the right to shit on them, but in this case we have a moderation that doesn't even allow constructive criticism because they deem it "offtopic" (admittedly some go a bt above that). And that's not fine.

They need to acknowledge that a lot of people here have a problem with Gal Gadot, it's pretty obvious. This is not getting solved by warnings or bans. Let people discuss it like you would anywhere else. If it's too much...yeah use your power as a mod, go for it.

You probably haven't read the Mod statement because of the length of your post. This topic is about ousting sexual harassers/assailants out of movie productions, not about her politic views.

Angel DvA said:
We need to stop pretending she's a good person with good values, it's not the subject here and I won't talk about it more but still.

I'm not, but ... you are.

kristoffer · Nov 12, 2017

Dadasch said:
no celebrity would get a pass if the moderation consider the action of said person shitty.

Actually, I think Gal Gadot is shitty. This has nothing to do with my personal bias. She could eat babies and it still wouldn't be relevant to this thread. More specifically this is not the place to open up a debate about what Israel does or does not do. If you take issue with this you are free to PM Rowlf to review the actions taken here.

TheGhost · Nov 12, 2017

Ha, kind of fitting that the success of the movie Ratner helped fund would lead to giving it's star a large enough platform to push him out.

Good on her

Budi · Nov 12, 2017

I can respect this.

TheGhost · Nov 12, 2017

GSG said:
She's not even in the same league as RDJ when it comes to portraying their respective characters.

RDJ is an exception, I can see if she totally sucks in her role, but considering she was the shining star of BVS, and she is acting in a universe where by far, two movies in Superman is the most un Superman ever on screen, I think she needs to be cut some slack. She is here now, and nothing she says about where she comes from or what she believes in will change that (that's where the hate is stemming from). She is in a position of power for women, and she is using it. Her career can be ruined by the type of people in this thread harping on and on about her political stance, I'm sure she is aware of that, I'm all for her knocking down doors and knocking people like Ratner away from the money before people ruin a good thing in the industry for once. In this post Weinstein world I have yet to see another actress demand "I won't do this if so and so is involved"

She is because she could, hopefully she inspires others to do the same as well.

THErest · Nov 12, 2017

Phoenix RISING said:
IDK. The current political climate these days...I don't know. Nothing is certain.

The current climate is shifting, at least, to outing sexual harrassers and abusers. I think Ratner is out.

Staf · Nov 12, 2017

Good on her! Ratner always seemed a sleazebag.

Deleted member 11262 · Nov 12, 2017

TheGhost said:
She is in a position of power for women, and she is using it. Her career can be ruined by the type of people in this thread harping on and on about her political stance

You paint it like it we're the bad guys for pointing out her wrongdoing. We're doing it as a matter of principle alone.
She is a powerful woman and this world we live in undoubtedly needs women like her and nobody is opposing this desire for an ideal world, but as a matter of fact...this is not about her gender, it's not about her position, we're not some patriarchy-loving assholes.

It's about what she stands for in one specific case, what she chose to stand for, willingly and completely uncalled for especially in that period of time where right before that infamous post of her over a thousand people died, children too. Just like her child she chose to put in that picture of her posting.

Deadlast · Nov 12, 2017

It would be a bold move, if she wasn't already locked into that Wonder Woman role. How does she feel about working with Ben Grab Ass Affleck?

Slaythe · Nov 12, 2017

Deadlast said:
It would be a bold move, if she wasn't already locked into that Wonder Woman role. How does she feel about working with Ben Grab Ass Affleck?

Considering all the revelations that followed, I think people can easily forgive Ben for slapping some asses...

It's shitty but it didn't ruin anybody's life.

Luchashaq · Nov 12, 2017

DeathyBoy said:
This repeated "y'all need educating re Gal" thing is getting tiresome. We KNOW what she said, we just don't need it brought into every Gal/WW/DC thread. Because it's invariably not relevant to the topics at hand.

Now, BACK on topic... good for Gal. Using her leverage power to block a dirt bag like Ratner.

It's just as relevant to any film related news about her as other garbage behavior by others in hollywood is relevant to stories about their work. Unless you're saying people shouldn't mention Harvey being human trash when he inevitably comes back to making films?

This is even more so about a story where she is being seen as taken a moral stand. Her backing out to push sexual harassers out is as empty to me as Ratner threatening to back out of a production involving a racist shit (Ratner is probably racist af as well but that's not the point).

WesleyShark · Nov 12, 2017

Glad to see Ratner was suspended.

gow3isben said:
Cool at least for this one thing.

Yet, Gal Gadot is a terrible person and a terrible Wonder Woman. WB should punt her off and not be afraid of hiring someone more physically imposing.

But then people wont be as interested. After all, the embodiment of female empowerment has to be a model right?

Seriously? You can do better than this.

Edit: already warned Nvm.

Seijuro · Nov 12, 2017

I stumbled upon Ellen Page's FB posting about Ratner yesterday. Glad he will be on the losing end of this.

One more reason to love Gadot.

shimon · Nov 12, 2017

Good on her!

Sanjuro · Nov 12, 2017

In an alternate universe, Megan Fox would be cast in Wonder Woman 2.

Lord Brady · Nov 12, 2017

Sanjuro said:
In an alternate universe, Megan Fox would be cast in Wonder Woman 2.

As the first Amazon to get killed by a stray Nazi bullet before she's able to utter a line of dialogue?

WesleyShark · Nov 12, 2017

Sanjuro said:
In an alternate universe, Megan Fox would be cast in Wonder Woman 2.

Earth 2 sounds like a terrible place

Sanjuro · Nov 12, 2017

WesleyShark said:
Earth 2 sounds like a terrible place

Yeah, but the Jonah Hex crossover will be great!

Brera · Nov 12, 2017

I'd rather have some politically neutral like megan fox to be Wonder Woman.

Plus I think it is important to bring up Gadot's past in every thread so people dont forget that she isn't a very pleasent person. This move of hers is a pretty cynical attempt at building her brand.

Kenzodielocke · Nov 12, 2017

Nevermind.

FeliciaFelix · Nov 12, 2017

Wow, lots of Gal haters here. This, combined with Jackie Chan thread being a shill for China, is kinda surprising.

American actors stan for their country all the time, even when it's probably not a good idea.

It's only fair that other actors shill for their country, even if it makes you roll their eyes.

Baji Boxer · Nov 12, 2017

Glad to hear it. She's an actress currently in a unique place of power in the action hero genre, and should have some real sway. Also lol at the person thinking Meagan Fox would be a better Wonder Woman. Gadot is great for the role because she's more than a model, giving her a better skillset to handle the action sequences. It's near perfect casting, imo.

Brera · Nov 12, 2017

More than a model? She's an awful actress! Granted she's improved since fast and the furious but it's pretty clear that WB/Hollywood are pushing her hard as a rising star. She's the Roman Reigns of Hollywood.

Not seen Wonder Woman yet and probably won't bother. It's pretty clear Ratner is out, this is just cynical marketing on her part. She doesn't have much sympathy for Palestinian women getting bombed by the IDF.

The Jackie Chan stuff has been around since 1997, there are two ways of looking at it, Hong Kong had to move on and he was part of the healing/transition process...or he sold out...

Caldain · Nov 12, 2017

Brera said:
More than a model? She's an awful actress! Granted she's improved since fast and the furious but it's pretty clear that WB/Hollywood are pushing her hard as a rising star. She's the Roman Reigns of Hollywood.

Not seen Wonder Woman yet and probably won't bother. It's pretty clear Ratner is out, this is just cynical marketing on her part. She doesn't have much sympathy for Palestinian women getting bombed by the IDF.

The Jackie Chan stuff has been around since 1997, there are two ways of looking at it, Hong Kong had to move on and he was part of the healing/transition process...or he sold out...

She is pretty awful. A lot of people raved about her but I didn't see her performance as anything special. Honestly, it was kind of cringey in places. It was even more apparent when she acted opposite Chris Pine.

Brazil · Nov 12, 2017

This thread has run its course. Maybe think twice the next time you're about to try to discredit someone fighting sexual harassment and abuse by pointing out their politics and acting skills.

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