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Mindfreak191

Member
Dec 2, 2017
4,772
Moonlight butterfly is a joke of a boss....dodge roll dodge roll, wait for it to come to the wall, hit hit, roll away before the area attack, rinse and repeat...easy win.

EDIt: also, stay close to the wall, that way the tracking beams can't hit you when you roll
 

Zoid

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,335
Currently on PC, in Anor Londo outside O&S, anyone wanna summon me and gank invaders?
 

Defect

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,713
Is the Giantdad build still viable?

I just started and of course I went straight for the Zweihander. I kinda wanted to do a Sorcery build because I know it wrecks PvE but I remember many years ago wrecking any Sorc invader with melee. :/



Nice! I did the same 6 years ago but I can't remember if there are any missables I should look out for. I vaguely remember one if the covenants being missable (Darkwraith?). Did you use a guide or go from memory?
Used a guide for some npc quests like Big Hat Logan
 

JMY86

Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,071
United States
Yeah I still have trouble with that boss as a knight. Get the grass shield, which will help block its magic. It always shoots for the main player with the green stuff, and it hits like a freight train. You can sometimes roll but those spells track you. Once it lands you can wail away at it. Should only take 2-3 landings to kill it.

The Moonlight Butterfly is actually one of the easier bosses for any class IMO. The fast laser projectiles are easily blockable with most shields (you will take some chip damage blocking them) but the slower moving 3 projectile attacks can easily break you guard and heavily damage you even when blocking so they must be dodged which is pretty easy to do because of how slow they are. The Butterfly will land after a time and you can hack away at it until it does and AoE attack which you must back away from then rinse/repeat. If you are still struggling Baeatrice can be summoned (while in human form) at the bottom of the stairs behind the bushes and she can easily demolish the Butterfly by herself (all you have to is block and dodge the Butterfly attacks). I hope this helps...
 

Zoid

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,335
I'd rather invade you and kill your little squad

But sadly I am on PS4 so I shall murder 'em there ;)
No squad here, I just finished fully upgrading my tracers and got summoned to a random's world, he dried fingered and we just kept fighting invaders. These things are so OP, I love 'em.
 

ghibli99

Member
Oct 27, 2017
17,853
These invaders that inflict toxic and then spend the rest of the fight dodging you are actually pretty funny.

First time in the DLC. First boss giving me those Dark Souls 2 DLC feels.
 

ClearMetal

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,327
the Netherlands
I completely forgot about the CD yesterday and randomly came upon him while I was looking for the poison arrow lady. Beat him first try. :)
And here I am with my 5+ tries.

Well done! Keep moving forward you have so many great moments ahead...
Thanks! Currently back to my thief character. I think I enjoy fast-paced parrying/backstabbing more than just swinging a large sword around. I could have known, since I always gravitate towards rogue classes in games.

Edit: question about armor. I'm still wearing most of my starting armor. Is it worth it to upgrade it a bit or is that just a waste of titanite shards and should I buy/loot something else?
 

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
Member
Oct 24, 2017
34,398
Edit: question about armor. I'm still wearing most of my starting armor. Is it worth it to upgrade it a bit or is that just a waste of titanite shards and should I buy/loot something else?
If you like your starting armour and how it looks, feel free to upgrade it. Any armour is viable. Some have minor advantages over others (weight poise, poison resist, mag defense, etc.), but overall it shouldn't make a big enough difference.
 

Orochinagis

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
3,548
Edit: question about armor. I'm still wearing most of my starting armor. Is it worth it to upgrade it a bit or is that just a waste of titanite shards and should I buy/loot something else?

Starting armor are pretty good on the class you choose. There are specific armors to help you in certain areas you would use for said areas but not in the long term.
 

StaffyManasse

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,208
Looks like I'm still on track with one boss slain each night. This time it was Gaping Dragon. Pretty cool boss but so far the bosses not having phases like in the later entries make them feel a little bit underwhelming, as much as have liked their design so far.
 

JMY86

Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,071
United States
And here I am with my 5+ tries.


Thanks! Currently back to my thief character. I think I enjoy fast-paced parrying/backstabbing more than just swinging a large sword around. I could have known, since I always gravitate towards rogue classes in games.

Edit: question about armor. I'm still wearing most of my starting armor. Is it worth it to upgrade it a bit or is that just a waste of titanite shards and should I buy/loot something else?

The point you are at in the game Titanite Shards should be common enough for you to easily upgrade your starting armor if you like it. There are also plenty of great light armors in the game if you plan on staying a nimble Thief like character. If you are using a shield armor is not that important if you have a good shield.
 

Oldmario

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,145
is there no way to turn off the forced 4k downsampling when playing on a pro? fans going crazy in some areas and some bosses is starting to drive me nuts
 

Spinky

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,112
London
Ran aaaaaaaall the way from Tomb of the Giants to Firelink. Wasn't quite as bad as I expected, but still bullshit.

Found Ceaseless Discharge, which is an incredible band name, and decided to leave him for later. Now at Sen's Fortress, getting fucking flattened.

In Bloodborne, I didn't find any areas/environments SUPER hard from what I remember. Upper Cathedral Ward is the worst I can recall, partly because it was spooky as shit. The biggest challenges were usually the bosses.

This game almost feels like the opposite.
 

Orochinagis

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
3,548
Ran aaaaaaaall the way from Tomb of the Giants to Firelink. Wasn't quite as bad as I expected, but still bullshit.

Found Ceaseless Discharge, which is an incredible band name, and decided to leave him for later. Now at Sen's Fortress, getting fucking flattened.

In Bloodborne, I didn't find any areas/environments SUPER hard from what I remember. Upper Cathedral Ward is the worst I can recall, partly because it was spooky as shit. The biggest challenges were usually the bosses.

This game almost feels like the opposite.

DS1 shines due the organic world design, something later souls didnt got in particular
 

Lego

Member
Nov 14, 2017
2,100
Were the points I put into dex to use the bow and buckler a good idea? I'm mainly a strength build, but I wanted that parry and I needed to kill that caster above
Gaping Dragon

Just beat
Quelaag
on my first try, with the butcher knife. Happy about that.
 

Lumination

Member
Oct 26, 2017
12,497
Ran aaaaaaaall the way from Tomb of the Giants to Firelink. Wasn't quite as bad as I expected, but still bullshit.
Dark Souls released when I was in college. Every one of us in the apt were playing it on separate TVs and consoles. We were all fairly on pace until I got stuck in the Tomb before even going to Sen's. I lagged behind everyone for two days trying to claw my way out of that. I was furious that my roommates were talking about some crazy duo boss thing that I had yet to see.

Yet here I am, 7yrs later and that is my deepest and fondest memory of the game.
 
Oct 27, 2017
797
Berkeley, CA
Haven't played a Soulsbourne game before. It is cool to play this game blind or should I use a guide while I play?

I am a stickler for missables but if they don't have that kind of stuff and the game isn't too difficult, then I would preferably go blind. Otherwise, I think I'm using a guide.
 

DellyTrey2

Member
Feb 16, 2018
74
Ran aaaaaaaall the way from Tomb of the Giants to Firelink. Wasn't quite as bad as I expected, but still bullshit.

Found Ceaseless Discharge, which is an incredible band name, and decided to leave him for later. Now at Sen's Fortress, getting fucking flattened.

In Bloodborne, I didn't find any areas/environments SUPER hard from what I remember. Upper Cathedral Ward is the worst I can recall, partly because it was spooky as shit. The biggest challenges were usually the bosses.

This game almost feels like the opposite.

Yeah this game's areas naturally feel harder because you can't fast travel out of bonfires until you get Lordvessel and even then its not every bonfire in the game. Having to backtrack to upgrade weapons and such before Lordvessel is a pain, especially when your in Blighttown.
 

Arjen

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
2,034
Haven't played a Soulsbourne game before. It is cool to play this game blind or should I use a guide while I play?

I am a stickler for missables but if they don't have that kind of stuff and the game isn't too difficult, then I would preferably go blind. Otherwise, I think I'm using a guide.

Play blind! It's so much more rewarding and fun.
 

Gestahl

Banned
Nov 2, 2017
391
They removed Darkwraiths being able to invade infinitely upwards and gave the same matchmaking tables to Darkmoon knights instead of the super generous invasion restrictions they used to have, rip mooncops
 

GrayFoxPL

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
2,280
Bowing before the Goddess. He may be the Chosen Undead but he is also a Chosen Charmer.

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P.S I didn't kill her she's too innocent.

m'lady
 

Lumination

Member
Oct 26, 2017
12,497
Haven't played a Soulsbourne game before. It is cool to play this game blind or should I use a guide while I play?

I am a stickler for missables but if they don't have that kind of stuff and the game isn't too difficult, then I would preferably go blind. Otherwise, I think I'm using a guide.
There are too many missables to count. Take it from me. Buy this game. Use it as a way to break out of your OCD. Rather than hunting down 100% of the things (and diluting your experience in the process), carve out your unique experience that is special to you alone.
 

JMY86

Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,071
United States
There are too many missables to count. Take it from me. Buy this game. Use it as a way to break out of your OCD. Rather than hunting down 100% of the things (and diluting your experience in the process), carve out your unique experience that is special to you alone.

Nailed it. If you buy this game do not use any kind of walkthroughs or guides your first playthrough. Just load up this amazing game and see where it takes you. If you take the plunge just remember death is not failure.

Oh and don't get greedy...
 

Chitown B

Member
Nov 15, 2017
9,610
The Moonlight Butterfly is actually one of the easier bosses for any class IMO. The fast laser projectiles are easily blockable with most shields (you will take some chip damage blocking them) but the slower moving 3 projectile attacks can easily break you guard and heavily damage you even when blocking so they must be dodged which is pretty easy to do because of how slow they are. The Butterfly will land after a time and you can hack away at it until it does and AoE attack which you must back away from then rinse/repeat. If you are still struggling Baeatrice can be summoned (while in human form) at the bottom of the stairs behind the bushes and she can easily demolish the Butterfly by herself (all you have to is block and dodge the Butterfly attacks). I hope this helps...

I found her more trouble than she's worth. She is always in my way while trying to roll.
 

Red Liquorice

Member
Oct 27, 2017
9,081
UK
Platinum trophy get. I don't really mind that they kept the same trophies as the original release, but i think it would've been cute to add a little easter egg like the pendant being able to be used and give you a secret item at a specific location or in NG+, just a little something like that - I didn't expect it, but it would've been fun for them to add some little nugget like that.

Sen's skip still works also, used it to get to Anor Londo in no time :)
 

RandomDudeSTL

Member
Dec 5, 2017
90
Haven't played a Soulsbourne game before. It is cool to play this game blind or should I use a guide while I play?
I am a stickler for missables but if they don't have that kind of stuff and the game isn't too difficult, then I would preferably go blind. Otherwise, I think I'm using a guide.

I played it my first time through with a guide and I would recommend doing the same - there is a lot of missable content, including missable boss fights, so unless you won't mind seeing people discuss bosses you never even encountered, I would recommend the guide route. I didn't feel like it took anything away from my experience at all - and it often helped me avoid the frustration of not knowing where to head next and getting lost.
 

Orochinagis

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
3,548
Haven't played a Soulsbourne game before. It is cool to play this game blind or should I use a guide while I play?

I am a stickler for missables but if they don't have that kind of stuff and the game isn't too difficult, then I would preferably go blind. Otherwise, I think I'm using a guide.

Always play your first run blind on any souls game you can go NG+ with all your stuff from the first run
 
So it's my first time with DS1 and i've just beaten Chaos Witch Quelaag and rang the 2nd bell. Where should i go now? I've been briefly in Demons Ruins and got obliberated by Demon there after taking armor set from altar :D What bothers me the most at the moment is the fact that Quelana of Izalith didn't spawn for me.

I don't have pyromancy upgraded to +10 since i'm not playing as Pyromancer so that would be a waste of Souls but i've beaten Quelaag already and according to Fextralife https://darksouls.wiki.fextralife.com/Quelana+of+Izalith i meet criteria to make her spawn. Bugger :(
 

super-famicom

Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
25,232
Haven't played a Soulsbourne game before. It is cool to play this game blind or should I use a guide while I play?

I am a stickler for missables but if they don't have that kind of stuff and the game isn't too difficult, then I would preferably go blind. Otherwise, I think I'm using a guide.

Play blind, use the OT to ask for some vague hints if you really get stuck.
 

RedMercury

Blue Venus
Member
Dec 24, 2017
17,677
i think it would've been cute to add a little easter egg like the pendant being able to be used and give you a secret item at a specific location or in NG+, just a little something like that - I didn't expect it, but it would've been fun for them to add some little nugget like that.
A lot of things would have been nice for them to fix or add unfortunately :/
 

Orochinagis

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
3,548
So it's my first time with DS1 and i've just beaten Chaos Witch Quelaag and rang the 2nd bell. Where should i go now? I've been briefly in Demons Ruins and got obliberated by Demon there after taking armor set from altar :D What bothers me the most at the moment is the fact that Quelana of Izalith didn't spawn for me.

I don't have pyromancy upgraded to +10 since i'm not playing as Pyromancer so that would be a waste of Souls but i've beaten Quelaag already and according to Fextralife https://darksouls.wiki.fextralife.com/Quelana+of+Izalith i meet criteria to make her spawn. Bugger :(

You have to return to the blacksmith and go for Sen Fortress doors should be opened now

Queelana is a sidequest class , beneficts pyromancers the most and its part of the games lore if you buy all her stuff
 

Spinky

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,112
London
Haven't played a Soulsbourne game before. It is cool to play this game blind or should I use a guide while I play?

I am a stickler for missables but if they don't have that kind of stuff and the game isn't too difficult, then I would preferably go blind. Otherwise, I think I'm using a guide.
Don't use a guide. Feel free to Google stuff every now and again if you really need to, but carving your own path (and getting lost/being surprised) is a part of these games. You'd be robbing yourself of the full experience IMO.
 

Dphex

Member
Oct 27, 2017
12,811
Cologne, Germany
Ran aaaaaaaall the way from Tomb of the Giants to Firelink. Wasn't quite as bad as I expected, but still bullshit.

Found Ceaseless Discharge, which is an incredible band name, and decided to leave him for later. Now at Sen's Fortress, getting fucking flattened.

In Bloodborne, I didn't find any areas/environments SUPER hard from what I remember. Upper Cathedral Ward is the worst I can recall, partly because it was spooky as shit. The biggest challenges were usually the bosses.

This game almost feels like the opposite.

did you play Demon´s Souls? there it IS the opposite, the boss is essentially the whole run up to the boss+ the boss.
because there are no bonfires the bosses are not so hard but when taking the way+boss into account it is tense as hell. The points you port to are after you killed a boss .-)

There are also shortcuts to open for a faster way if you die but i liked the design the most in Demon´s, from Dark 1 onwards they concentrated more and more on the boss fights and most of the ways to them can be cheesed or you simply run past the mobs to the bosses. DS2+DS3 have many sections which can be completely skipped and ran through...
 

ClearMetal

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,327
the Netherlands
If you like your starting armour and how it looks, feel free to upgrade it. Any armour is viable. Some have minor advantages over others (weight poise, poison resist, mag defense, etc.), but overall it shouldn't make a big enough difference.

Starting armor are pretty good on the class you choose. There are specific armors to help you in certain areas you would use for said areas but not in the long term.

The point you are at in the game Titanite Shards should be common enough for you to easily upgrade your starting armor if you like it. There are also plenty of great light armors in the game if you plan on staying a nimble Thief like character. If you are using a shield armor is not that important if you have a good shield.
Thanks for the answers. I already dropped all my current titanite shards into my Bandit Knife, but I'll think about upgrading my armor a bit as well. I do have a shield. In fact I just switched from Target Shield to Heater Shield — in my opinion the increased parry window isn't worth the 22% damage that bleeds through. So I guess upgrading armor isn't that important for me. It's just one of those ingrained RPG habits. Makes me feel like I'm woefully undergeared when I'm 5 hours in and still wearing starting gear.
 

super-famicom

Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
25,232
So it's my first time with DS1 and i've just beaten Chaos Witch Quelaag and rang the 2nd bell. Where should i go now? I've been briefly in Demons Ruins and got obliberated by Demon there after taking armor set from altar :D What bothers me the most at the moment is the fact that Quelana of Izalith didn't spawn for me.

I don't have pyromancy upgraded to +10 since i'm not playing as Pyromancer so that would be a waste of Souls but i've beaten Quelaag already and according to Fextralife https://darksouls.wiki.fextralife.com/Quelana+of+Izalith i meet criteria to make her spawn. Bugger :(

I think you do need a +10 flame for Quelana to appear. That's how I got her to appear. The Wikidots site confirms it, too.
 

Van Bur3n

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
26,089
Man, I am an unstoppable force with the BKGA in PVP. Ain't nobody backstabbing me.

Maybe a couple of parries though...