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Which will you throw in the PC Storage first?

  • Pikachu

    Votes: 590 16.2%
  • Eevee

    Votes: 571 15.7%
  • Your hopes and dreams

    Votes: 2,083 57.4%
  • Jmon

    Votes: 387 10.7%

  • Total voters
    3,631

Revolsin

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What's the point of choosing an Eevee that can't evolve? Pikachu at least has eletric movements. Am I supposed to use tackle?

It'll have a customized moveset. Come on guys, Eevee learns basically nothing on its own, they can't keep it as a story mon without changing it up.
 

Lotus

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It'll have a customized moveset. Come on guys, Eevee learns basically nothing on its own, they can't keep it as a story mon without changing it up.

People said they obviously wouldn't give us an Eevee that can't evolve, but here we are

They can just as easily give us an Eevee with a crappy moveset lol
 

Zubz

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Oct 25, 2017
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Then they said they're "special" because you can put hats on them? I refuse to believe it

Yes. They've hyped up cosmetic stuff as "special" before, right? This is the team that saw character customization as such a "special" thing that it was supposedly going to stay Kalos exclusive after they refused to put it in ORAS.
 

Morlas

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Oct 25, 2017
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i bet the outfits you can dress up Eevee and Pikachu up in will give them various things like stat boosts and abilities
 

lvl 99 Pixel

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Yes. They've hyped up cosmetic stuff as "special" before, right? This is the team that saw character customization as such a "special" thing that it was supposedly going to stay Kalos exclusive after they refused to put it in ORAS.

Not in a game that's featuring them on the cover for the first time since the original generation and pushing their importance more than ever. Having them just be ordinary would just be a whole new low.

i bet the outfits you can dress up Eevee and Pikachu up in will give them various things like stat boosts and abilities

The Army Pikachu with the helmet having more defense? I could see it. Not sure what any of the other costumes could represent.
 

B-Dubs

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Oct 25, 2017
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i bet the outfits you can dress up Eevee and Pikachu up in will give them various things like stat boosts and abilities
I imagine it'll be like that Pikachu in ORAS and give them special moves or something. Or there will be a special move tutor for the starters.

Or they'll make the light ball available early on for Pikachu, when you'd normally get a final stage evo, and make one for Eevee.
 

Zubz

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Oct 25, 2017
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no
Not in a game that's featuring them on the cover for the first time since the original generation and pushing their importance more than ever. Having them just be ordinary would just be a whole new low.

I mean, they didn't do anything in Yellow for Pikachu other than give the Nidoran's fighting-type moves & make Mankey show up far earlier, right?
 

Kyzer

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Oct 25, 2017
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Just realized you will probably power up and evolve via candies like Pokemon go and possible mtx
 

Zyrokai

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Wait.......how much of a change did HGSS and ORAS have to the original storyline of the games? Like.....was it super drastic or something?

I played through HGSS and I literally bought ORAS today, but I don't remember much from the original G/S and R/S. So I'm just curious if I should be comcet......and....which is now canon?

On the same note, did Fire Red/Leaf Green change the storylines of the original? Never played that.

And on the same note AGAIN....My main question:
----Do we yet know or have confirmation if Let's Go is a reboot/retelling or if it's a sequel to Red/Blue/Yellow? And if it's a sequel, is it to R/B/Y or FR/LG *if* there is storyline difference, lol.
 
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Zarckoh

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Oct 25, 2017
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Which franchises exactly? All the jrpgs I can think of are more iterative with monsters than Pokemon.

Keep in mind that I'm not only talking JRPGs (especially since for many pokemon it's more than just a JRPG) but IPs that are about monster collecting.

My numbers are outdated but I can recall digimon at more than 1000, Yugioh at 4000+ monsters, Puzzle and Dragons at 4000+, Monster Strike at 3000+.

Monster Strike it's interesting because it has a huge kids audience that plays it regularly and it's not like getting new monsters it's scarying them at all. Given how popular it's at playgrounds for many it's the pokemon of their time.
 

QisTopTier

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Friend saw let's go trailer got excited for pokemon and asked me questions about it.

At the end of the conversation he no longer wants it and now owns alpha saphire and ultra sun and is watching vgc battles as we speak glued to the screen lol

GameFreak wins lol
 

lvl 99 Pixel

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I mean, they didn't do anything in Yellow for Pikachu other than give the Nidoran's fighting-type moves & make Mankey show up far earlier, right?

"not since the first generation." It was disappointing 20 yrs ago which is why so many people didn't use the starter.
Now the game isnt even connected to the main series or the bank feature at all so theres really not much in the way of a game specific buff.
 

ClickyCal'

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Oct 25, 2017
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Friend saw let's go trailer got excited for pokemon and asked me questions about it.

At the end of the conversation he no longer wants it and now owns alpha saphire and ultra sun and is watching vgc battles as we speak glued to the screen lol

GameFreak wins lol
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B-Dubs

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Oct 25, 2017
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Wait.......how much of a change did HGSS and ORAS have to the original storyline of the games? Like.....was it super drastic or something?

I played through HGSS and I literally bough ORAS today, but I don't remember much from the original G/S and R/S. So I'm just xuriocu if I should be cinceconc......and....which is now canon?

On the same note, did Fire Red/Leaf Green change the storylines of the original? Never played that.

And on the same note AGAIN....My main question:
----Do we yet know or have confirmation if Let's Go is a reboot/retelling or if it's a sequel to Red/Blue/Yellow? And if it's a sequel, is it to R/B/Y or FR/LG *if* there is storyline difference, lol.
They changed a bit, cleaned up some stuff, added some stuff from the third versions, it's really more of a "best of" that gen thing. HGSS really made Johto come to life though, the art style changes were beyond amazing and nothing besides ORAS has even come close. USUM was good, but there was nothing really jaw dropping or as atmospheric as some of the areas in those remakes.
 

QisTopTier

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He was one of the kids that were around when me and my other buddy played all the time back in red/blue gold/silver so he always saw me and our other friend fight each other. He was interested in it for vs reasons since he wanted to play me again and a girl he's into that is into competitive.

This is a guy that loves hardest setting SMT games, fighting games, and raiding in mmos so it's not to shocking for me and dude is willing to grind stuff out for the creamy center of things :P
 
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Morlas

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Oct 25, 2017
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i want the Pikachu and Eevee in these games to be overpowered OU viable versions of themselves
 

lvl 99 Pixel

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He was one of the kids that were around when me and my other buddy played all the time back in red/blue gold/silver so he always saw me and our other friend fight each other. He was interested in it for vs reasons since he wanted to play me again and a girl he's into that is into competitive.

This is a guy that loves hardest setting SMT games, fighting games, and raiding in mmos so it's not to shocking for me and dude is willing to grind stuff out for the creamy center of things :P

If pokemon labbing was as fun as in fighting games id be entering tournaments...
Well, I have a middle ground where labbing melee pikachu movement is a daily thing.
 

B-Dubs

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Well we wont know how the meta of the game will play out until we see how they do the stats so it could somehow happen? Probably not unless... outfits give stat buffs and shit
Given that the battles themselves don't seem to be changing (Pokemon still have four moves and HP bars), I seriously doubt they're changing how stats work. If the point of this game is to bring GO players into the mainline fold then it would make no sense at all to alter how stats work. From what we've seen the only real changes have been to cater to GO players with the capture and wild Pokemon mechanics.
 

QisTopTier

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Given that the battles themselves don't seem to be changing (Pokemon still have four moves and HP bars), I seriously doubt they're changing how stats work. If the point of this game is to bring GO players into the mainline fold then it would make no sense at all to alter how stats work. From what we've seen the only real changes have been to cater to GO players with the capture and wild Pokemon mechanics.
The thing is, this game can freely transfer from go and back. Pokemon go limits how stats work removing the two special stats. This is why it's a safe concern.
 

Metto

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Given that the battles themselves don't seem to be changing (Pokemon still have four moves and HP bars), I seriously doubt they're changing how stats work. If the point of this game is to bring GO players into the mainline fold then it would make no sense at all to alter how stats work. From what we've seen the only real changes have been to cater to GO players with the capture and wild Pokemon mechanics.
I think the fear is because they said they are simplifying how you raise and level up your Pokemon and considering how the battle system has almost nothing from beyond Gen 1 (not even moves) we might return to Gen 1's stats (Attack, Defense, Special, Speed) or use Go's so it would be easier to transfer them here (Attack, Defense, Speed)
 

QisTopTier

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B-Dubs

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The thing is, this game can freely transfer from go and back. Pokemon go limits how stats work removing the two special stats. This is why it's a safe concern.

I think the fear is because they said they are simplifying how you raise and level up your Pokemon and considering how the battle system has almost nothing from beyond Gen 1 (not even moves) we might return to Gen 1's stats (Attack, Defense, Special, Speed) or use Go's so it would be easier to transfer them here (Attack, Defense, Speed)
This isn't the first time GameFreak has done taken Pokemon with fewer stats and moved them to a gen past the split. Hell, when you move RBY VC Pokemon into the box for use in future games it does it. It'd just be the same sort of implementation, it's not even something they'd have to dream up, it's something they've already got the code written and implemented for.

If it wasn't for that fact I'd be a bit concerned too. If I'm wrong dig this up and I'll eat my crow, but I'm not worried about this in particular.
 

lvl 99 Pixel

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Melee pikachu is fun as hell, smash 4 pikachu too. I main him in both games with a side of charizard to troll with rocksmash counters in 4.

Quick attack canceling is too fun in 4 and tail spiking people to death at like 20% in melee feels amazing

well that's super rare. I think everyone mained him in 64 at least.
Lets GO needs the party hat as an option, or at least the goggles.
 

Metto

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This isn't the first time GameFreak has done taken Pokemon with fewer stats and moved them to a gen past the split. Hell, when you move RBY VC Pokemon into the box for use in future games it does it. It'd just be the same sort of implementation, it's not even something they'd have to dream up, it's something they've already got the code written and implemented for.

If it wasn't for that fact I'd be a bit concerned too. If I'm wrong dig this up and I'll eat my crow, but I'm not worried about this in particular.
Well for one thing I think the Bank integration is a one way street. You can't return any Pokemon you send to Bank. If the GO and Let's Go integration is the same then that might mean we wouldn't have to worry about over simplified stats. If you can transfer between them freely then they have to be more consistent with each other.
 

B-Dubs

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Well for one thing I think the Bank integration is a one way street. You can't return any Pokemon you send to Bank. If the GO and Let's Go integration is the same then that might mean we wouldn't have to worry about over simplified stats. If you can transfer between them freely then they have to be more consistent with each other.
Right, but at the same time we don't know everything about how GO integration works yet. Because remember that Pokemon in GO only have two moves, but we know for a fact that this game's Pokemon can learn 4 moves. So there's a few wrinkles to iron out either way. And if they're willing to figure out a fix for the 4 move issue why not the stat one? Especially since they're already half-way there.
 

Metto

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Right, but at the same time we don't know everything about how GO integration works yet. Because remember that Pokemon in GO only have two moves, but we know for a fact that this game's Pokemon can learn 4 moves. So there's a few wrinkles to iron out either way. And if they're willing to figure out a fix for the 4 move issue why not the stat one? Especially since they're already half-way there.
Thinking more about it I have to wonder if they'll keep the physical special split. I'd imagine they'd want to keep it because it would be easier for players to remember moves like Crunch would be Physical move and moves like Shadow Ball would be a special move in spite of them being opposite due to physical and special moves being dictated by types. So if they're going to differentiate like that maybe we'll keep the standard stats.
 

B-Dubs

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Thinking more about it I have to wonder if they'll keep the physical special split. I'd imagine they'd want to keep it because it would be easier for players to remember moves like Crunch would be Physical move and moves like Shadow Ball would be a special move in spite of them being opposite due to physical and special moves being dictated by types. So if they're going to differentiate like that maybe we'll keep the standard stats.
I seriously doubt they'd rescind the physical/special split. Game Freak might go back and forth on some changes, but the one thing they've never backtracked on is the battle system.
 

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I seriously doubt they'd rescind the physical/special split. Game Freak might go back and forth on some changes, but the one thing they've never backtracked on is the battle system.

Introducing new players to the most important aspect of Pokemon by teaching them total gibberish would be kind of funny.
 

QisTopTier

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I dont think they ever said anything about dressing up the mc. Just the starter pokes
 

zoukka

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It's not a win for all, since as I said competitive players get stuck on ancient 2011 hardware to play through all the rest of this year and ALL 2019.

Let's go doesn't delay the 2019 titles since it's done by a different team. Obviously GF's first Switch game needs more time in the oven than another 3DS title would. You are not being rational.

That doesn't justify Let's Go being gutted of features that are significant to the franchise.

There's no reason why Let's Go AND 2019 couldn't have been targeted to all audiences. They just decided to ruin Let's Go for the hardcore fans for no good reason.

Plenty of reasons. Let's Go seems to have an art style closer to Go and the strategy behind that and the simplified catching and battling is to cater to Go players, lapsed fans and kids new to the franchise.

You are being emotional if you really think that this isn't a business move but a plot by thr directors of GF to "ruin" your experience. If the 2019 title wasn't in development you'd have a point :b
 
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Based on this, it seems like it's marketing to people that started with gen 1.
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This is why I said the messaging was very confusing. On one hand, they want this to be marketed to children as we see with the simplified gameplay and the MC being a child. But on the other hand, this quote clearly resonates with the audience that played through RBY/Kanto as a kid. Not to mention, we see young adults playing with the game (which I guess is their way of showing us that they're targeting the casual fan that only plays Pokemon Go). To me it just sounds like a mess where the game wants to target all, but might actually be best for just one demographic (aka kids).
 

lvl 99 Pixel

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This is why I said the messaging was very confusing. On one hand, they want this to be marketed to children as we see with the simplified gameplay and the MC being a child. But on the other hand, this quote clearly resonates with the audience that played through RBY/Kanto as a kid. Not to mention, we see young adults playing with the game (which I guess is their way of showing us that they're targeting the casual fan that only plays Pokemon Go). To me it just sounds like a mess where the game wants to target all, but might actually be best for just one demographic (aka kids).

isnt that almost every game in this franchise?
 

JakeNoseIt

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The thing is, this game can freely transfer from go and back. Pokemon go limits how stats work removing the two special stats. This is why it's a safe concern.

You actually cannot transfer from Let's Go to Go. The transfer is one way (from Go to Let's Go).

It stands to reason that Let's Go will take your Go data and transform it into something usable. Like others have said, it wouldn't be the first time.
 

QisTopTier

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You actually cannot transfer from Let's Go to Go. The transfer is one way (from Go to Let's Go).

It stands to reason that Let's Go will take your Go data and transform it into something usable. Like others have said, it wouldn't be the first time.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-pokemon-let’s-go-2019-info-facebook-post.46031/
- You can trade Pokémon between Pokémon Go and the Switch at will and mix and match at your desire