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Arozay

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I love hearing stories like this. It's happened to all of us at one point or another. I used to get really upset at losing tens of thousands of souls, but now I don't even care.

But if you're in a sewer, then you haven't reached Blighttown yet. You're still in the Depths, unless you headed back up to use the Depths bonfire.
Nah, I because i missed the blighttown campfire I got sent back to the sewers and died on the way.

40k of souls from the Gaping Dragon (worst boss) and whatever humanity I had left. Best bit was I had to do blight-town completely cursed. Anyway, just got out of there with the New Lortho key, thank fuck.
 

Noema

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Farming for large titanite shards in Blighttown swamp. The place is much easier to get through when you stop giving a damn about getting poisoned.

Thank God those mosquitoes don't respawn indefinitely.

Heh, I've also been alternating between farming shards in the Blighttown swamp and helping people with Queelag all morning.

I remember Blighttown made me feel so anxious back in the day that I needed to wash my hands every 45 minutes or so because I was sweating bullets.

Now it feels like such a relaxing, almost idyllic experience.
 

Orochinagis

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Do the various murals and reliefs actually have any in game meaning? I haven't really done a dive into them.

There is a speculation regarding the mother and the child to be


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Velka and Priscilla
-The Church (The way of white) taking care of humankind (Gwyn controlling WoW)
-Humanity

its also recurring figure in most souls games alonside with the Church behind them
 

entremet

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I killed Prscilla before getting her tail cut. What a pain in the ass tail cut that is.
 

Nilou

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Good luck! If you're planning on using spells, just get the minimum strength and/or dex required for a weapon you like to use and level up intelligence. Then when upgrading the weapon, take it down the magic/enchanted so it'll scale off of intelligence.

Are there any good one handed weapons that are good for a magic build that are easy to get early on? It's been so long so I've forgot just about everything but I think it's possible to make a magic longsword that's attack is boosted by intelligence?I like use my shield a lot especially in new areas and I figure having a decent one handed weapon for easy enemies would be helpful when trying to save my spells and such for tougher enemies and bosses. Thanks again for the help!
 

ClearMetal

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Heh, I've also been alternating between farming shards in the Blighttown swamp and helping people with Queelag all morning.

I remember Blighttown made me feel so anxious back in the day that I needed to wash my hands every 45 minutes or so because I was sweating bullets.

Now it feels like such a relaxing, almost idyllic experience.
The upper areas of Bligttown are still nerve-racking, but that's because I don't enjoy claustrophobic, dimly lit places. The constant moaning of the ghouls isn't helping. At least I roughly know where they are now.

But the swamp is OK. Nice and spacious and nothing too dangerous aside from the boulder tossing barbarians.
 

entremet

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Are there any good one handed weapons that are good for a magic build that are easy to get early on? It's been so long so I've forgot just about everything but I think it's possible to make a magic longsword that's attack is boosted by intelligence?I like use my shield a lot especially in new areas and I figure having a decent one handed weapon for easy enemies would be helpful when trying to save my spells and such for tougher enemies and bosses. Thanks again for the help!
Not really. Unless you get lucky with a Channeler's Trident drop in Undead Parish or The Depth. Mid game is better, there's a lighting spear. elemental weapons get boost from INT. Plus you'll be able to forge some from a special blacksmith.

Side note, everything really does slow down after Anor Londo. That first half of the game is brilliant.
 

Psychotron

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Went back to Undead Asylum. Was doing well against the black knights, then fell through the floor and was one shotted by the stray demon. Took me about six tries but I figured out a strategy and beat him. I guess Blighttown is next on my list. Enjoying my first time through the game.
 

alpha

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Going through this game again after a whole lot of hours of DS3 is rough in terms of control. In particular, that garbage man 4-way roll when locked on lol.
 
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I died many times because of the 4 way roll, DS3 and Bloodborne really spoiled me. I really should have bought the PS4 version because there are NO MESSAGES on PC currently :( Judging by their previous track record with PC ports they're not going to fix it.
 

Morrigan

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Same ^ I never noticed how much of a difference it made until going back to Dark Souls haha.
 

Noema

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The upper areas of Bligttown are still nerve-racking, but that's because I don't enjoy claustrophobic, dimly lit places. The constant moaning of the ghouls isn't helping. At least I roughly know where they are now.

But the swamp is OK. Nice and spacious and nothing too dangerous aside from the boulder tossing barbarians.

Yeah, I died a ton in Upper Blighttown. Almost made me wish I'd done the Valley of Drakes skip. The worst part is that the complex geometry and pathing make it so that enemies ambush you seemingly out of nowhere because it takes them forever to reach you after they've been aggro'd.

Still nowhere nearly as bad as it was in 2012 when I first played it. I literally stopped playing for a couple of days because I didn't want to deal with the stress. Now it took me only an hour and a glass of scotch.

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I'm having real trouble with the gargoyles as well, first stage is pretty easy but when there are 2 of them? Oh man that is tough.

Use gold pine resin and two-hand your weapon to kill the first one as quickly as possible. You should be able to do it fast enough so that the first one is near death by the time the second one joins the fight.

Also, it's easier to dodge roll their attacks if you don't lock-on (if you've been doing so )

Going through this game again after a whole lot of hours of DS3 is rough in terms of control. In particular, that garbage man 4-way roll when locked on lol.

Same ^ I never noticed how much of a difference it made until going back to Dark Souls haha.

Coming from over 200 hours of SotFS and Bloodborne in the past 3 months, I was worried the 4-way roll would be an issue but so far it's been fine. As long as I don't lock on to bosses it's not really a big deal. I guess I was lucky that the last bosses that gave me trouble in Bloodborne were the Headless Bloodletting Beast and Loran Darkbeast, both of which are preferably fought without lockon.
 
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StaffyManasse

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Quelaag almost broke me and I was *this* close to summoning as I was on my last cure poison item (hated that run to the boss), but then decided to just go one more time and beat her.
 

Bakercat

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I'm having real trouble with the gargoyles as well, first stage is pretty easy but when there are 2 of them? Oh man that is tough.

Yeah, I don't like that boss battle at all. I've been having very little to no problems in this run solo except for the gargoyles. They royaly pissed me off cause of their wide reaching swings and staying together so much. If you're having trouble with their tales then I'd suggest cutting them off asap. That can help with having a safe spot behind them. I would also recommend taking out the first one asap cause the battle is so much easier when one is out of the way.
 

Spinky

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Made tons of progress today. Beat Iron Golem, Ornstein and Whatever, Sif, and miraculously killed Nito in one try. Can't believe that went my way, had no Estus and basically no health left. Heart was about to leap out my damn chest.

And then I wasted the Firelink Fire Keeper's Soul on the one in Anor Londo, so I don't even know how to feel. I look forward to 30+ hours with no Firelink bonfire.

Anyway, Gwynevere can sit on me.
 

Morrigan

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Coming from over 200 hours of SotFS and Bloodborne in the past 3 months, I was worried the 4-way roll would be an issue but so fat it's been fine. As long as I don't lock on to bosses it's not really a big deal. I guess I was lucky that the last bosses that gave me trouble in Bloodborne were the Headless Bloodletting Beast and Loran Darkbeast, both of which are preferably fought without lockon.
Yeah I haven't had too much issue with bosses, it's been mostly in PvP, or dodge-rolling off a cliff while fighting mobs and the like. >_<
 

ClearMetal

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Yeah, I died a ton in Upper Blighttown. Almost made me wish I'd done the Depths skip. The worst part is that the complex geometry and patching make it so that enemies ambush you seemingly out of nowhere because it takes them forever to reach you after they've been aggro'd.

Still nowhere nearly as bad as it was in 2012 when I first played it. I literally stopped playing for a couple of days because I didn't want to deal with the stress. Now it took me only an hour an a glass of scotch.
Only a few days? I quit for a couple of years after going through Lower Undead Burg, haha. I knew what was waiting for me in the Depths and beyond and I didn't want to deal with that at all. Way too stressful.

Silly as it may sound to some, I'm quite proud of myself I made it through the Depths and Blighttown. There were times the shit ran down my legs, but I kept pushing on.
 

Carbonox

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2 bosses left to finish my first run with the game. What a ride.

Currently doing some trophy cleanup that I can do in this run though. Mainly going through the weapon upgrade ones.

Not looking forward to the miracle/sorcery/pyromancy/unique weapon trophies though....
 

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Apparently you haven't played Demon's Souls or Bloodborne. Hardest bosses in the all souls universe.

Bloodborne has very difficult bosses from the get go, Demon's Souls has easy bosses. You can one or 2 shot a lot of demon's souls bosses. I didn't even know about fat rolling back then (or about builds in general), and still beat Flamelurker with it. He turned out to be of the hardest bosses along with the False King.

I ended up with the Meat Cleaver because it was very easy to craft, and it melted everything.

Bloodborne yeah. Demon's though? Those bosses aren't too hard either.
Went back to Undead Asylum. Was doing well against the black knights, then fell through the floor and was one shotted by the stray demon. Took me about six tries but I figured out a strategy and beat him. I guess Blighttown is next on my list. Enjoying my first time through the game.

If you did Stray Demon before Blight Town, you'll likely have a good ring for the later phase of that level.
 

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i'm not sure what the deal is with the messages on PC. they were working when the game first came out. i even saw one with the frampt symbol (meaning it got a ton of approvals).
 

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I don't know about the rolling, I beat Manus with roll evading everything he threw at me (except for those fucking spells, still dodged the circular one twice but not sure how). Its just that a lower equipment load makes a huge difference in DS1, moreso than in the sequels it seems (did going below 25 even matter in 3?).

What annoys me more is that when I try to invade them I always get the "invasion failed" prompt. It almost never works. So I'm just stuck waiting for someone else to kill the servant because I'm sure as shit not dealing with those red phantoms.

Yeah same here. Shit doesn't work.
 

AbbaZabba

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Oct 28, 2017
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The ragdoll corpses are hilarious at times, I ended inadvertently up dragging this guys limp body on my back down from the elevator before Artorias and he still wouldn't come off until I spammed rolls

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In the words of slippy toad, get this guy off me!

I think at this point I've probably inadvertently scared myself by dragging around a creepy rag doll more than the game itself has scared me.
 

demosthenes

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Oct 25, 2017
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Best place to farm @ lvl 55? Anor Lando / O&S boss fight?

i'm not sure what the deal is with the messages on PC. they were working when the game first came out. i even saw one with the frampt symbol (meaning it got a ton of approvals).

Ditto, hardly see them.

Just beat pinwheel, easiest boss of all time?
 

Carbonox

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Pinwheel and Nito are definitely super easy bosses but it's not really fair for me to comment on difficulty when Dark Bead obliterates every boss in 2/3 hits. Unless your name is Manus. He don't give a shit and tanks that nonsense.
 

StaffyManasse

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On hindsight Quelaag wasn't that bad, actually. It was the boss run that was stressing me out. The fight itself was alright, all my deaths were my own fault.

Got the first proper boss kill high from her on this game.
 

demosthenes

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Also, I'm about lvl 55. I think I could do Valley of Drakes. I forgot to do the area while doing Blight. I could go to Painted, or Londo. Londo makes sense because of very large ember? If I'm summoned in Londo do I need to take a transient curse too? Is there a better way to deal with the ghosts?
 

Morrigan

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Also, I'm about lvl 55. I think I could do Valley of Drakes. I forgot to do the area while doing Blight. I could go to Painted, or Londo. Londo makes sense because of very large ember? If I'm summoned in Londo do I need to take a transient curse too? Is there a better way to deal with the ghosts?
Valley of Drakes is very short, no boss, just some minor loot, but sure, you should be fine so long as you got good physical damage 'cause those blue drakes are pretty tanky.

New Londo is a good idea, that ember is very important if you're a physical damage build. But yes, you always need a transient curse even as a phantom, unless you're actually cursed I guess. If you have the Ghost Blade or Jagged Ghost Blade (or maybe Sif's cursed greatsword? not sure if there are other "cursed" weapons), you can damage the ghosts without a transient curse. The jagged ghost blade is a semi-rare drop from the ghosts, the ghost blade (non-jagged) is ultra-rare though, never actually seen it I think.
 

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Pinwheel and Nito are definitely super easy bosses but it's not really fair for me to comment on difficulty when Dark Bead obliterates every boss in 2/3 hits. Unless your name is Manus. He don't give a shit and tanks that nonsense.

Not only those are easy, what about Moonlight Butterfly, Gaping Dragon, Iron Golem, Seath... almost all the DS1 bosses are boring. Capra, Centipede, BoC are outright terrible. The 3 Stray demon reskins are just there.

I only like the BFF's from Anor Londo, Sif, Gwyn and perhaps the Chaos Witch. Artorias ups the ante because I think 3 out of 4 bosses are good, better than the base game in fact. Not sure about Kalameet, he's challenging but didn't enjoy it that much.
 

Capra

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On hindsight Quelaag wasn't that bad, actually. It was the boss run that was stressing me out. The fight itself was alright, all my deaths were my own fault.

Got the first proper boss kill high from her on this game.

Once you figure out her patterns she's pretty easy to cheese. The other night on a whim I started a new run and went straight to Quelaag while 2-handing the zweihander naked. If you hug her side and quickroll through her sword strikes you don't have to worry about much.

The worst part of the fight was being poisoned all throughout from the run there
 

SCB360

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Big snake guy in Firelink sent me to go bring back the Lordvessel. I bring it back, and he's just sleeping. I guess I'll go explore? Doesn't seem like I have any real objective right now


Advice for any Souls game if you get lost, "Which direction have I not been and where have I not gone to next?" EXPLORE those options skeleton
 

Morrigan

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Not only those are easy, what about Moonlight Butterfly, Gaping Dragon, Iron Golem, Seath... almost all the DS1 bosses are boring. Capra, Centipede, BoC are outright terrible. The 3 Stray demon reskins are just there.

I only like the BFF's from Anor Londo, Sif, Gwyn and perhaps the Chaos Witch. Artorias ups the ante because I think 3 out of 4 bosses are good, better than the base game in fact. Not sure about Kalameet, he's challenging but didn't enjoy it that much.
I mostly agree. A lot of DkS1 bosses are visually really cool, but mechanically boring or crappy. I'd even add 4 Kings to the list of crappy boss: it's nothing more than a DPS race and the hitboxes (both on them and when receiving their hits) are wonky as hell. They do all have a cool and/or unique visual design though.

The bosses that I think are fun to fight are the same as you (I do enjoy Kalameet too, though I think Sinh is probably better and Midir definitely is better... don't @ me), plus the Gargoyles, Gwyndolin, maybe Nito is OK. Taurus is OK for a first boss. Centipede isn't THAT bad if you run to dry land to the right of the entrance and fight him there and I like how you can get the ring early to even fight him on the lava, but the camera still sucks and his jumping attack is stupid because you can't see shit, but fortunately it doesn't do a ton of damage. Priscilla would be OK if she were a little more challenging, but she's just way too easy.

Edit:
I didn't mean scaling. But INT does affect the output of the elemental damage, no?
That is what we mean by scaling, and no, it does not.
 

entremet

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I mostly agree. A lot of DkS1 bosses are visually really cool, but mechanically boring or crappy. I'd even add 4 Kings to the list of crappy boss: it's nothing more than a DPS race and the hitboxes (both on them and when receiving their hits) are wonky as hell. They do all have a cool and/or unique visual design though.

The bosses that I think are fun to fight are the same as you (I do enjoy Kalameet too, though I think Sinh is probably better and Midir definitely is better... don't @ me), plus the Gargoyles, Gwyndolin, maybe Nito is OK. Taurus is OK for a first boss. Centipede isn't THAT bad if you run to dry land to the right of the entrance and fight him there and I like how you can get the ring early to even fight him on the lava, but the camera still sucks and his jumping attack is stupid because you can't see shit, but fortunately it doesn't do a ton of damage. Priscilla would be OK if she were a little more challenging, but she's just way too easy.

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That is what we mean by scaling, and no, it does not.
Interesting. That's wild. I thought it did. So for Souls only scaling effects damage out, not the stat number itself?
 

TyrantII

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Sorry to all the noobs in the berg that don't know what dragon covenant is, summoning me thinking its COOP. Truely, its not personal. Just need your scales.
 

RockyBalboa_

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I forgot how after you beat Quelaag you still have to climb OUT of blighttown.

After going through The Depths I decided to bolt through Blighttown (suicide run as I knew from going down the valley of the drakes short cut, my black knight sword wasn't at a good level at the time - took multiple swings to kill a blob!). I got poisoned but had many purple moss items, I miraculously found my way down the bottom and beat Quelaag - didn't have to find my way out of there.... I homeward bones myself to a Depths bonfire :D.

A few days later I went through Sens Fortress (took a few attempts just to get to the top and then the Iron Golem battle. Anor Lindo was another toughie - much moreso because the sharpness of the skyline gave me a bloodshot eye (some games do this to me!!).

Died a fair few times outside, made it to the bonfire and then boosted souls to help get twinkling titanite for my BKS. Opened the short cut to the O&S battle. Died 4 times before I summoned help. Beat it on that attempt (super lucky as I had stuff all humanity left to keep summoning help).

Got the firekeeper soul back that was even easier... The cronies were more damaging than Lautrec (a few slashes and he was dead!).
 

entremet

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How's the XB1 community for this game? I may double dip and again for the Switch lol.
 

SCB360

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wait are some people really complaining that the bosses in this are bad or easy? I actually consider DS1 to not only be the hardest souls game but also the best in terms of design, DS3's bosses are a lot harder (I literally didn't die until Wolnir in DS3 the first time I played it)
 

entremet

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wait are some people really complaining that the bosses in this are bad or easy? I actually consider DS1 to not only be the hardest souls game but also the best in terms of design, DS3's bosses are a lot harder (I literally didn't die until Wolnir in DS3 the first time I played it)
The bosses don't age as well. I also could be that we've gotten better. Sif gave me hard time my first play through. I destroyed it this time around.

I think it's that later Souls games had deeper move pools, so you adjust accordingly. Coming back to Dark Souls 1, it's easier to adjust.
 

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The bosses don't age as well. I also could be that we've gotten better. Sif gave me hard time my first play through. I destroyed it this time around.

I think it's that later Souls games had deeper move pools, so you adjust accordingly. Coming back to Dark Souls 1, it's easier to adjust.

There has been a change in design. Since Artorias of the Abyss the bosses have become more relentless with a bigger moveset. This continued in Dark Souls 3 (and the DS2 DLC in particular, the base game has a lot of dumb stuff). If you compare Gwyn to Artorias, the latter flows far better and is more diverse. Are there even Gaping Dragon and Moonlight butterfly tier bosses in 3? I can't remember them, perhaps the Tree and the mage? But those were still more challenging.

I mostly agree. A lot of DkS1 bosses are visually really cool, but mechanically boring or crappy. I'd even add 4 Kings to the list of crappy boss: it's nothing more than a DPS race and the hitboxes (both on them and when receiving their hits) are wonky as hell. They do all have a cool and/or unique visual design though.

The bosses that I think are fun to fight are the same as you (I do enjoy Kalameet too, though I think Sinh is probably better and Midir definitely is better... don't @ me), plus the Gargoyles, Gwyndolin, maybe Nito is OK. Taurus is OK for a first boss. Centipede isn't THAT bad if you run to dry land to the right of the entrance and fight him there and I like how you can get the ring early to even fight him on the lava, but the camera still sucks and his jumping attack is stupid because you can't see shit, but fortunately it doesn't do a ton of damage. Priscilla would be OK if she were a little more challenging, but she's just way too easy.

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That is what we mean by scaling, and no, it does not.

I saved the Four Kings for last because I wanted the Sif cutscene. They were hilariously easy at that point. I could mash and take a few hits, and mash some more. Not complaining because the boss run sucks ass.

Centipede was shit for me because he wouldn't enter dry land for a good few minutes.

Priscilla and Gwyndolin at least offer something different, Priscilla having to track her footsteps and stagger her first is a nice mechanic. Gwyndolin is about dodging his projectiles while closing in. Those are okay bosses as well. I generally like bosses such as these this franchise, such as Fool's Idol and Yharnam. They are more about getting to them. Bed of Chaos tries this too but fails miserably, I don't get it because I think Dragon God from DeS was a decently made puzzle fight. The Wyvern in DS3 was fine too, the plunge finish was epic.

Sinh is absolutely better than Kalameet. Midir is okay if you stay in front of him, and not trying the tail strategy which brings out the worst in Souls (shitty camera, bad hitboxes etc).
 
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Rackham

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Been killing at the black knights and killed havel. Beat the bell gargoyles and am at the blacksmith. I've played this game before when it was out but completely forgot what to do with the fire keeper soul and when you read it tells you it strengthens your estus flask so what the fuck do I do..I consume it. Fuck me. Fuck From Soft too.