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EndlessNever

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,890
They put a bonfire in the Catacombs, I think they could've put one at the start of New Londo too. Part of what makes 4 Kings such a slog and makes you not want to try repeat attempts is the run there from Firelink.
Best way to get to the boss is be at the bonfire in Darkroot Basin, then to go through the big door in Valley of the Drakes and just sprint by most of the enemies.

That's what I did anyway, and felt shorter.
 

Chitown B

Member
Nov 15, 2017
9,610
The fourth boss (Capra Demon) does indeed have a terrible environment, and can be very punishing for some people.

However. I believe the second boss is a great tutorial; it makes you learn spacing and rotation (around the back) which is essential for most bosses.

Second boss is Taurus Demon, so above.....

So I've rang the first bell, killed Moonlight Butterfly and Havel, but I feel like I should be going towards Blightown rather than Darkroot Forest. Any pointers?

I mean, you could kill Sif, but it's not a rush.
 

EndlessNever

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,890
The second boss fight jumped of the bridge when it was almost dead. It wasn't supposed to happen. The bridge should've been a bit wider.

I'm in the sewers now. Is there a bonfire there? I'v been exploring for over 40 minutes without finding one and I've no Estus Flasks left.
The Depths? Yes, there's one single bonfire. It's right in the middle of the level kind of.
 

Yossarian

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
13,265
The PVP invaders on the PS4 have all been "normal" players and fine. No obvious cheating as far as I can tell.

It's annoying because they tend to invade at the worst times, but totally fair and part of the game.

I mean, I got invaded yesterday by a one-shot Wrath of Gods Build, but other than that, it has been pretty fair.
 

NeoKnight

Member
Oct 28, 2017
652
The second boss fight jumped of the bridge when it was almost dead. It wasn't supposed to happen. The bridge should've been a bit wider.

I'm in the sewers now. Is there a bonfire there? I'v been exploring for over 40 minutes without finding one and I've no Estus Flasks left.
There is a bonfire, in one of the tunnels with an arc-style roof and with the slime enemies above (like 5-6 of the slime enemies and one undead with a torch near end). At the end of the hallway there is a bonfire.
 

RockyBalboa_

Member
Apr 28, 2018
1,474
Four Kings have a very limited moveset, once you know the tells for each of the few moves the fight becomes a doddle as long as you have decent DPS. It's very satisfying to learn a fight like 4 Kings, as it's temtping to just wack on Havels or the Stone set and tank it, but really all their moves are very easy to dodge and by tanking and chugging estus you never really learn the fight and can always see it as a scary challenge.


Another tip: keep hitting the king when it is in its dying animation.

I have beaten them before. Each time I start a new game every couple of months I forget HOW I did something the previous time (well more like what weapons and armor I was wearing).

Dammit that's the 2nd firekeeper soul I've missed...that I know of. Ate the first one (lol) and now I'm in Anor Londo with no way back to Blighttown (as of yet).

I neglected to get it my first trek because it was a suicide run (had barely any protection). Zoomed from the valley of the drakes short cut, down and instead of getting to the bonfire I was at Quelaags base. I won the battle..... and homeward boned out instead of suicide running back lol.
 

Couscous

Member
Oct 30, 2017
6,089
Twente (The Netherlands)
The Depths? Yes, there's one single bonfire. It's right in the middle of the level kind of.

There is a bonfire, in one of the tunnels with an arc-style roof and with the slime enemies above (like 5-6 of the slime enemies and one undead with a torch near end). At the end of the hallway there is a bonfire.

Thanks, I just missed it and died because of poison that a rat gave me when it ambushed me. :(
 

EndlessNever

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,890
That's what I think I did before, but how do I get to the Valley of the Drake's?
Go to Darkroot Basin, as far down as you can go and it'll bring you to a Black Knight guarding a bonfire in a tunnel. Go through that tunnel and use the elevator at the end, and you'll be in Valley of the Drakes. From there you'll be able to get into Blighttown easier, and New Londo Ruins easier via a shortcut later on too.
 

Kaiser Swayze

Member
Oct 30, 2017
1,621
The DLC area is kicking my sorry ass. I'm probably around level 75, but I just barely made it past the first boss and I'm getting sorely punished for any misstep past that. Not sure if I need to go boost up my stats elsewhere or just stop thinking I have to kill everything that moves.
 

Red Liquorice

Member
Oct 27, 2017
9,082
UK
That's what I think I did before, but how do I get to the Valley of the Drake's?

And I want to save Sif for after the DLC, I've never played the DLC so yeah I want to do that.
Don't kill Sif until you've done the DLC if you want the alternative cutscene.

As for Blighttown and VoD - I would suggest going through Blighttown forwards rather than backwards on a 'first' playthrough, skipping 90% of an area isn't that much fun to me. Valley of Drakes connects several areas and is more a corridor to pass through than an area by itself, sooner or later you'll come up on it.
 

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
Member
Oct 24, 2017
34,401
Welp, there goes Siegmeyer and my titanite slab.
I never bothered with sidequests until now with this remastered edition. This guy died in lost izalith, eventhough I killed like 3 or 4 of those chaos eaters and even damaged the last one, he couldn't even manage to stay alive with more than 50% health -_-
Man exactly the same thing happened to me last night. Snipped at the monsters and left one alive with barely a sliver left... fucking Siegmeyer gets himself grabbed and eaten. ;_; RIP my slab.

Truth be told I didn't really need it, I'm using a twinkling titanite weapon but still... could have transferred it to another character and all. Sigh.

Worse than Lost Izalith.
Now now, let's not say things we can't take back~

The very best boss of the series vs the very worst...? (thinkingemoji.gif)

Working on it but lost all motivation. Just became a lvl1 dickwraith but can no longer invade in low-lvl areas due to the weapon upgrade restrictions :c Probably my favorite thing to do in Dark Souls.
So glad about this. Thank you From. And I say this as someone who has been spamming invasions since launch. If there's no chance of you dying and you OHKO everyone, how is this fun? You're just breaking the game. Good riddance to Dickwraiths.
 

Deleted member 8861

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Oct 26, 2017
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I really like how Dark Souls 1 is perhaps the only game in the series (except DeS?) to make the arenas an important factor of almost every boss fight.
 

Deleted member 13155

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Oct 27, 2017
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Demon Firesage, who is currently handing me my ass repeatedly. I thought Stray Demon was easy, too... Maybe I need to go back to under 25% load and be quick again

That guy is hard if you're slow with a slow weapon. You can't outpace its AoE it seems. Maybe with fire resistant and flash sweat.

I switched for light armor and BK Halberd and he went down in no time at all.
 

Nezacant

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,085
Should I get the game on PS4 instead? All this hacking nonsense is really putting me off putting more time into my PC playthrough.
I'm playing on both PS4 and PC and honestly I haven't run into any hackers on PC yet. (Though I know it happens) Backing up your save on PC is very simple however the PS4 version runs great. I'm just playing wherever my friends are.
 

Nezacant

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Oct 27, 2017
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Carbonox

Member
Dec 13, 2017
1,603
A Bluepoint remaster of Demon's Souls would rise to the top of my post-E3 purchasing list, especially as I never played the original. Going through Dark Souls Remastered has ignited my passion.
 

Couscous

Member
Oct 30, 2017
6,089
Twente (The Netherlands)

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
Member
Oct 24, 2017
34,401
Just keep going forward and enter Blighttown via the Depths. If you die you'll be at the Depths bonfire with a shortcut unlocked anyway, so it's not far.
This is terrible advice. Telling them to continue to Blighttown while they're cursed?

Couscous If you are at the Depths bonfire, you can exit the Depths and return to Firelink somewhat quickly by backtracking. You can buy a Purging Stone from the zombie lady in that tunnel. It's 6K souls though. If you want a cheaper one, you can continue on to Firelink, use the elevator shortcut back to the Undead Parish, and talk to Oswald of Carim in the Bell tower, he sells them for 3k.

The snuggly option is a bit more out of the way.
You need to use that same elevator shortcut, drop off that platform, then roll onto that tiny square ledge and follow the path to the crow's nest (make sure you pick up the key from the rooftop, you'll see a glowing item, that's the key). But it's worth going there if you're going to Blighttown anyway. Curl up in the nest, go back to Undead Asylum.

Kill the fire hollows, then turn to your left when facing the Asylum door. There's a platform sticking out with a nest, you should hear a voice making crow noises and asking for soft/warm items. If you have cracked eye orbs, you can drop 1 in the nest, reload, and pick up a Purging Stone. You can find cracked red eye orbs in a chest near Firelink, too.

Explore the rest of the Asylum, with the key you picked up you can get a very good ring for Blighttown.

Good luck!
 
Oct 27, 2017
3,896
ATL
This stinks I wanted the woodgrain ring from the forest ninja, but I didn't want to break the covenant, so I got one of the fire bugs in Blighttown to kill him. Unfortunately, I was still blamed for his death. Now I have to pay for absolution...and deal with the forest covenant guys in the woods again...

The bug also killed the eastern swordsman/shopkeeper dude. Is he gone for good, or does he respawn if I rejoin the forest covenant?
 

Pandora012

Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
5,496
invaders are starting to annoy me. All I've been getting are back stab fishers. Also, I don't remember combustion being this bullshit in invasions. I'm like 5 feet away from that shit, and I still get hit.

Also, I love how bamco/from left all the bugs that weren't fixed in the original in the remaster.
 

EndlessNever

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,890
This is terrible advice. Telling them to continue to Blighttown while they're cursed?

Couscous If you are at the Depths bonfire, you can exit the Depths and return to Firelink somewhat quickly by backtracking. You can buy a Purging Stone from the zombie lady in that tunnel. It's 6K souls though. If you want a cheaper one, you can continue on to Firelink, use the elevator shortcut back to the Undead Parish, and talk to Oswald of Carim in the Bell tower, he sells them for 3k.

The snuggly option is a bit more out of the way.
You need to use that same elevator shortcut, drop off that platform, then roll onto that tiny square ledge and follow the path to the crow's nest (make sure you pick up the key from the rooftop, you'll see a glowing item, that's the key). But it's worth going there if you're going to Blighttown anyway. Curl up in the nest, go back to Undead Asylum.

Kill the fire hollows, then turn to your left when facing the Asylum door. There's a platform sticking out with a nest, you should hear a voice making crow noises and asking for soft/warm items. If you have cracked eye orbs, you can drop 1 in the nest, reload, and pick up a Purging Stone. You can find cracked red eye orbs in a chest near Firelink, too.

Explore the rest of the Asylum, with the key you picked up you can get a very good ring for Blighttown.

Good luck!
Yeah, you're right. Just go buy a purging stone, and it should be fine.
 

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
Member
Oct 24, 2017
34,401
The bug also killed the eastern swordsman/shopkeeper dude. Is he gone for good, or does he respawn if I rejoin the forest covenant?
RIP Shiva. Most NPCs do not respawn. I think the only one who can't die in this one is the Crow. (Frampt can't die but I think he goes away for the rest of the playthrough if you attack him too much, IIRC)
 

stan_marsh

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,688
Canada
This is terrible advice. Telling them to continue to Blighttown while they're cursed?

Couscous If you are at the Depths bonfire, you can exit the Depths and return to Firelink somewhat quickly by backtracking. You can buy a Purging Stone from the zombie lady in that tunnel. It's 6K souls though. If you want a cheaper one, you can continue on to Firelink, use the elevator shortcut back to the Undead Parish, and talk to Oswald of Carim in the Bell tower, he sells them for 3k.

The snuggly option is a bit more out of the way.
You need to use that same elevator shortcut, drop off that platform, then roll onto that tiny square ledge and follow the path to the crow's nest (make sure you pick up the key from the rooftop, you'll see a glowing item, that's the key). But it's worth going there if you're going to Blighttown anyway. Curl up in the nest, go back to Undead Asylum.

Kill the fire hollows, then turn to your left when facing the Asylum door. There's a platform sticking out with a nest, you should hear a voice making crow noises and asking for soft/warm items. If you have cracked eye orbs, you can drop 1 in the nest, reload, and pick up a Purging Stone. You can find cracked red eye orbs in a chest near Firelink, too.

Explore the rest of the Asylum, with the key you picked up you can get a very good ring for Blighttown.

Good luck!

Thanks for this, super helpful.
 

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
Member
Oct 24, 2017
34,401
Thanks for this, super helpful.
Glad to help!

The zombie lady also sells moss, which is very useful for Blighttown (they're also farmable from the bush-monsters in Darkroot Garden). You'll want at least a couple before venturing into Blighttown. Going into Blighttown well-prepared is the difference between a miserable experience and a relatively benign (by Souls level standards) one. :D
 

stupei

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,801
Best way to get to the boss is be at the bonfire in Darkroot Basin, then to go through the big door in Valley of the Drakes and just sprint by most of the enemies.

That's what I did anyway, and felt shorter.

The one that feels fastest to me is a run down from Firelink. Take the first twisting staircase in New Londo and then drop off the right, go up the ladder you kicked down earlier, and then around that one walkway -- with the pass through the building where it's broken -- and drop off right in front of the fog gate. You don't even have to run past the Darkwraiths. Shown here.

He/she should go there to get the rusted iron ring before going to the bottom of blighttown anyway.

Agreed. Purple moss and the ring make blighttown almost pleasant. Almost.