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Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
Member
Oct 24, 2017
34,398
The one that feels fastest to me is a run down from Firelink. Take the first twisting staircase in New Londo and then drop off the right, go up the ladder you kicked down earlier, and then around that one walkway -- with the pass through the building where it's broken -- and drop off right in front of the fog gate. You don't even have to run past the Darkwraiths. Shown here.
Hmm. There's no way this is faster than this:



Also, pet peeve (and not aimed at you but whoever made that video) but holy hell do I hate when youtube videos like this one take forever to get to the point. That video you linked should have started at 0:50 easily. And yes, it shows it takes an extra 30 secs and it's not really "safer" either.
He should go there to get the rusted iron ring before going to the bottom of blighttown anyway.
....I said that in my post. Twice.
 

EndlessNever

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,890
Hmm. There's no way this is faster than this:



Also, pet peeve (and not aimed at you but whoever made that video) but holy hell do I hate when youtube videos like this one take forever to get to the point. That video you linked should have started at 0:50 easily. And yes, it shows it takes an extra 30 secs and it's not really "safer" either.

....I said that in my post. Twice.

Woah, that's super short. Thanks for the tip!
 

Morrigan

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Oct 24, 2017
34,398
Woah, that's super short. Thanks for the tip!
NP! I think I timed it once and it's about 1:30 in total from Firelink to the boss fog gate. Annoying, but not nearly as bad as the run to Bed of Chaos (regardless of whether running from the hidden bonfire or from the Centipede Demon bonfire and using the covenant shortcut/door... which I think is longer but you avoid the lava?).
 

EndlessNever

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Oct 25, 2017
6,890
NP! I think I timed it once and it's about 1:30 in total from Firelink to the boss fog gate. Annoying, but not nearly as bad as the run to Bed of Chaos (regardless of whether running from the hidden bonfire or from the Centipede Demon bonfire and using the covenant shortcut/door... which I think is longer but you avoid the lava?).
For Bed of Chaos, I literally just ran from the hidden bonfire all the way to the door. It's not too bad I suppose, but annoying given the nature of the boss.
 

Yossarian

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
13,265
RIP Shiva. Most NPCs do not respawn. I think the only one who can't die in this one is the Crow. (Frampt can't die but I think he goes away for the rest of the playthrough if you attack him too much, IIRC)

Weirdly, I killed the Ninja for his sweet ring (I'm not rephrasing that) and he turned up in Blighttown later. Doubt the same would happen for a named NPC, but interesting nonetheless.
 

Khamsinvera

Member
Oct 31, 2017
1,580
I was dreading the Bed of Bullshi ... err ... Bed of Chaos boss fight

Thankfully, muscle memory kicked in and I destroyed it in one shot. Out of all the bosses in the entire series, that's one boss which is total crap with 0 redeeming qualities.
 

What-ok

Member
Dec 13, 2017
3,038
PDX OR
Just started playing through the DLC for the first time. Love how it starts off with a fun battle. Can't wait to see what's next.
 

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Another small tip for the run to Kings from Firelink: send the lift back up to firelink before you start your run to the fog gate.

If there is anything worse than having to run back to the boss that just destroyed you it's waiting for the lift to take you to the run where the boss just destroyed you.
 

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Another small tip for the run to Kings from Firelink: send the lift back up to firelink before you start your run to the fog gate.

If there is anything worse than having to run back to the boss that just destroyed you it's waiting for the lift to take you to the run where the boss just destroyed you.

This is a good pro tip for any elevator in all souls games. Of course there are exceptions but this is the RULE.
 

Palantiri

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Oct 25, 2017
545
Another small tip for the run to Kings from Firelink: send the lift back up to firelink before you start your run to the fog gate.

If there is anything worse than having to run back to the boss that just destroyed you it's waiting for the lift to take you to the run where the boss just destroyed you.

Yes, running for the lift, forgetting that you have to wait and only remembering that you didn't send it back up when you are already falling.
 

Anabolex

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Mar 23, 2018
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Wait a minute. So I just saved Siegmeyer again and killed all the chaos eaters. He then talks to me and just dies without anyone attacking him. What?
 

Jingo

Banned
Dec 10, 2017
1,219
So im getting frustrated as hell with this game, ive only played dark souls 3 and bloodborne prior to this one.

First, the character is heavy as fuck, i choose the knight and i can barely move, the roll is a joke.

Im at the firelink shrine and i cant even beat two skeletons that are there close, dont know if its an area i should go right now since i almost do no damage but in anyway i suck at the combat.

Im really trying to like it but its a night and day difference to the latest games.

Cant even figure out how to use humanity or what kindle is.
 

Anabolex

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Mar 23, 2018
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Also I never rescued Logan from the cell down in the Dukes Archives, but now he is sitting at the library selling sorceries. I just picked up the key for hs cell. lol
 

Timeaisis

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,139
Austin, TX
Bell gargoyles > titanite demon > darkroot a good path? It's been a while and I may be underleveled.

So im getting frustrated as hell with this game, ive only played dark souls 3 and bloodborne prior to this one.

First, the character is heavy as fuck, i choose the knight and i can barely move, the roll is a joke.

Im at the firelink shrine and i cant even beat two skeletons that are there close, dont know if its an area i should go right now since i almost do no damage but in anyway i suck at the combat.

Im really trying to like it but its a night and day difference to the latest games.

Cant even figure out how to use humanity or what kindle is.

It's definitely way more obtuse than DS3 and BB. If you aren't liking the rolling, try changing out your equipment. Heavy stuff gives you a "fat roll", as they call it. Try grabbing the chain mail set for a more agile roll. Google equip load if you wanna know how it works.
 

Kyuur

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Oct 28, 2017
2,535
Canada
So im getting frustrated as hell with this game, ive only played dark souls 3 and bloodborne prior to this one.

First, the character is heavy as fuck, i choose the knight and i can barely move, the roll is a joke.

Im at the firelink shrine and i cant even beat two skeletons that are there close, dont know if its an area i should go right now since i almost do no damage but in anyway i suck at the combat.

Im really trying to like it but its a night and day difference to the latest games.

Cant even figure out how to use humanity or what kindle is.

The graveyard with the skeletons is not recommended for first time players. At most you would want to run through there and grab items while avoiding skellies. Iirc if you had a mace-esque weapon they are more manageable since they will get "knocked down" with each hit.

If you find you're too slow, take off some armor.
 

Pantaghana

The Fallen
Oct 26, 2017
1,221
Croatia
So im getting frustrated as hell with this game, ive only played dark souls 3 and bloodborne prior to this one.

First, the character is heavy as fuck, i choose the knight and i can barely move, the roll is a joke.

Im at the firelink shrine and i cant even beat two skeletons that are there close, dont know if its an area i should go right now since i almost do no damage but in anyway i suck at the combat.

Im really trying to like it but its a night and day difference to the latest games.

Cant even figure out how to use humanity or what kindle is.

Encumbrance is far less forgiving in this one, you fastroll if you are under 25% equip load, feel free to go naked if you have confidence in your rolls.

Skeletons are more of a late game area, you shouldn't bother with it yet.

Humanity is used to go human which enables summoning and invasions, and allows you to kindle bonfires, kindling a bonfire increases how many Flasks you receive from it, and its bonfire specific so each bonfire needs to be kindled individually. Kindling consumes humanity. All of this is done with the "soft" humanity, the large numbers next to your HP/stamina bar. The inventory item is used to add to that number.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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So im getting frustrated as hell with this game, ive only played dark souls 3 and bloodborne prior to this one.

First, the character is heavy as fuck, i choose the knight and i can barely move, the roll is a joke.

Im at the firelink shrine and i cant even beat two skeletons that are there close, dont know if its an area i should go right now since i almost do no damage but in anyway i suck at the combat.

Im really trying to like it but its a night and day difference to the latest games.

Cant even figure out how to use humanity or what kindle is.

Take off your armor or find a lighter set. It will greatly improve your roll speed. Increasing endurance will also take care of this problem.

Don't fuck with the skeletons now. Take it as From saying "don't come here yet".

The combat, unfortunately, will take getting used too. It is way slower than BB and DS3 but you will adjust in time.

You use humanity like an item. It is used to revert to your human form and you can offer it to bonfires to kindle them

Kindling bonfires, increases the amount of estus charges each bonfire will supply you with and is bonfire specific. That is, each bonfire you come across will need to be kindled separately if you want increased estus.

Edit: Anither adjustment will be the lack of 8 directional rolling. You can only roll in 4 directions in DS1. This will take getting used to.

One thing I can definitely see with DS1 is that it definitely was built with shields in mind given the slow combat feel
 

stupei

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,801
Yes, running for the lift, forgetting that you have to wait and only remembering that you didn't send it back up when you are already falling.

Happened to me last night with a lot of souls on the line and it was the first time I ever tried quitting out of the game to avoid a death saving. Reloaded back in to my character collapsing dead in front of the elevator. I guess it saves the second you start the freefall. Clever, From.

Also I never rescued Logan from the cell down in the Dukes Archives, but now he is sitting at the library selling sorceries. I just picked up the key for hs cell. lol

I hate that he sometimes does this. First time it happened to me -- went to save him from his cell, only to find it empty -- I thought I accidentally killed him with an AOE attack clearing out the room. Turns out the asshole just slips through the bars, I guess. He only wants to know that you care.
 

ClearMetal

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,327
the Netherlands
First, the character is heavy as fuck, i choose the knight and i can barely move, the roll is a joke.
That's because you're wearing heavy armor. There are three kinds of rolls in this game: fast, medium and slow (commonly called 'fat rolls'). Which one you do depends on your equip load. 0 - 25% does a fast roll, 25 - 50% medium and >50% fat. There are further sub-categories (fast-fast, medium-fast and slow-fast, for example) but those are not to be worried about unless you're min-maxing.

Your knight is either medium rolling or fat rolling; I don't remember the weight of the starting equipment. Medium is actually still okay, but fat rolling isn't a viable method of defense. So that means you have to block all damage instead.

If you want to roll faster, just take off some armor. Since defense in this game revolves heavily around not getting hit in the first place, this shouldn't be an issue. I've seen people do naked runs just to get those fast rolls while wielding heavy weapons.

Im at the firelink shrine and i cant even beat two skeletons that are there close, dont know if its an area i should go right now since i almost do no damage but in anyway i suck at the combat.
Nobody does; those skeletons are a hint you're not supposed to go there until much later. I admit the game is very obtuse about it.

For the moment, go up and cross the bridge. This leads you to Undead Burg, the real first proper level of the game.

Cant even figure out how to use humanity or what kindle is.
Humanity is presented by the number in the top left corner, next to your health/stamina bar. There are two kinds: soft and hard humanity. Soft is when you're still undead (when you look like a zombie). This offer a passive bonus but otherwise don't serve much purpose. You can make this humanity 'hard' by going to a bonfire and reverse your hallowing, basically making you human again. The big draw is you can now summon other players (or NPCs at times). The catch is it also opens you up for invasions.

The other bonus of becoming human again is the ability to kindle bonfires. This can be done once in the beginning of the game and it basically improves bonfires so you get 10 estus flasks instead of 5. This only costs one humanity. Do note the the Firelink Shrine is already kindled, so you don't need to do it there just yet!
 

Jingo

Banned
Dec 10, 2017
1,219
That's because you're wearing heavy armor. There are three kinds of rolls in this game: fast, medium and slow (commonly called 'fat rolls'). Which one you do depends on your equip load. 0 - 25% does a fast roll, 25 - 50% medium and >50% fat. There are further sub-categories (fast-fast, medium-fast and slow-fast, for example) but those are not to be worried about unless you're min-maxing.

Your knight is either medium rolling or fat rolling; I don't remember the weight of the starting equipment. Medium is actually still okay, but fat rolling isn't a viable method of defense. So that means you have to block all damage instead.

If you want to roll faster, just take off some armor. Since defense in this game revolves heavily around not getting hit in the first place, this shouldn't be an issue. I've seen people do naked runs just to get those fast rolls while wielding heavy weapons.


Nobody does; those skeletons are a hint you're not supposed to go there until much later. I admit the game is very obtuse about it.

For the moment, go up and cross the bridge. This leads you to Undead Burg, the real first proper level of the game.


Humanity is presented by the number in the top left corner, next to your health/stamina bar. There are two kinds: soft and hard humanity. Soft is when you're still undead (when you look like a zombie). This offer a passive bonus but otherwise don't serve much purpose. You can make this humanity 'hard' by going to a bonfire and reverse your hallowing, basically making you human again. The big draw is you can now summon other players (or NPCs at times). The catch is it also opens you up for invasions.

The other bonus of becoming human again is the ability to kindle bonfires. This can be done once in the beginning of the game and it basically improves bonfires so you get 10 estus flasks instead of 5. This only costs one humanity. Do note the the Firelink Shrine is already kindled, so you don't need to do it there just yet!

Thank you and all the others for the tips.

As stupid as it sounds, i can now beat those skeletons and even the bigger with no trouble, just had to lose all the dark souls 3/bloodborne mentality.

Its an hard game for sure.

My equip load is at 31.0/53%, its a medium role right?

Another question i have is whats the use of having 1, 2 or more humanity consumed ? They raise the discovery?
 

Divius

Member
Oct 25, 2017
906
The Netherlands
So glad about this. Thank you From. And I say this as someone who has been spamming invasions since launch. If there's no chance of you dying and you OHKO everyone, how is this fun? You're just breaking the game. Good riddance to Dickwraiths.
awwww they fixed it so you can't be an asshole. *crocodile tears*
Didn't mean to step on any toes there. If it is any consolation, I was one of the good ones (99% of the time). Dropping the occasional shard, mainly just spamming carvings and showing the host where to go. Also roleplaying. Never cared about actual pvp.

I'm assuming neither of you have tried it, it really was my favorite thing to do in the game.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,243
Real talk:

Are any elemental weapons worth it, late NG or going into NG+?

Seems like an easy no: +15 and a weapon buff is always better.
 

xeroborn55

Member
Oct 27, 2017
953
I'm using the ign walkthrough for my first time playing this game combined with a dex build I found. This is so much better than playing blind imo. There is some stuff in this game I would never figure out on my own.

Just went back to the asylum and that whole section to get there was wtf

Just knowing what area to go to next makes it much more enjoyable
 

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
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Oct 24, 2017
34,398
Didn't mean to step on any toes there. If it is any consolation, I was one of the good ones (99% of the time). Dropping the occasional shard, mainly just spamming carvings and showing the host where to go. Also roleplaying. Never cared about actual pvp.

I'm assuming neither of you have tried it, it really was my favorite thing to do in the game.
Then why would weapon matchmaking have any effect on that? You can still do all of that, if that's what you want, so long as you keep your gear moderate.
 

stupei

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,801
Thank you and all the others for the tips.

As stupid as it sounds, i can now beat those skeletons and even the bigger with no trouble, just had to lose all the dark souls 3/bloodborne mentality.

Its an hard game for sure.

My equip load is at 31.0/53%, its a medium role right?

Another question i have is whats the use of having 1, 2 or more humanity consumed ? They raise the discovery?

The movement in this game is very different than DS3 and especially Bloodborne. It's definitely a learning curve; I even felt it as someone who played DS1 at launch but hasn't gone back to it in a bit.

If your equip load is over half the total available based on your current stats, you're fat rolling. Almost positive the knight starts out fat rolling. Try taking off the gauntlets and helmet and pump levels into endurance early on.

Humanity raises item discovery and resistance to curse. There might be other features of it too, but those are the two that stand out to me. Up to 10 it makes a difference, any more past that and the improvement is negligible.
 

xenocide

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,307
Vermont
The Four Kings fight is hot garbage. Only boss with a grab attack that tracks you for an absurd distance--I literally ran the opposite direction once one of them spun around and rolled at the end and still got snatched by it, luckily it doesn't do a lot of damage. But the run back is brutal and the fight is just annoying. I decided to backtrack and tackle other content after wiping like 6 times in a row.
 

ghibli99

Member
Oct 27, 2017
17,853
The Four Kings fight is hot garbage. Only boss with a grab attack that tracks you for an absurd distance--I literally ran the opposite direction once one of them spun around and rolled at the end and still got snatched by it, luckily it doesn't do a lot of damage. But the run back is brutal and the fight is just annoying. I decided to backtrack and tackle other content after wiping like 6 times in a row.
Yeah, as others have said, it's a DPS race. I just equip my hardest-hitting weapon coupled with the most poise I can stack, and just hack away, trying to watch out for the grabs. Most of the post-Lordvessel fights are just gimmicky shallowness. I like Nito though, but hate the run and that fall damage.
 

xenocide

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah, as others have said, it's a DPS race. I just equip my hardest-hitting weapon coupled with the most poise I can stack, and just hack away, trying to watch out for the grabs. Most of the post-Lordvessel fights are just gimmicky shallowness. I like Nito though, but hate the run and that fall damage.

I feel like Anor Londo kind of sets the bar for the game thus far, and everything I've dealt with after it was meh.
 

Elliott

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Oct 25, 2017
3,472
Fully upgraded the gold and silver tracer. Good alternative to the BSS and light enough that I can have them all equipped without losing ninja flip.
 

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Game post Anor Londo is worse, though its finally completely non-linear from there. I personally liked the Archives a lot, its a atmospheric area but it could've done with slightly less enemies, mainly snipers. But then there is Crystal Cave out of nowhere which is shit. The Catacombs are cool imho, its the Tomb of Giants I hate. I also like Demon Ruins but not Izalith. Its all the 'final' areas that are shit.

NP! I think I timed it once and it's about 1:30 in total from Firelink to the boss fog gate. Annoying, but not nearly as bad as the run to Bed of Chaos (regardless of whether running from the hidden bonfire or from the Centipede Demon bonfire and using the covenant shortcut/door... which I think is longer but you avoid the lava?).

Well, I think the Covenant is longer but you don't have to go naked though you have to endure a likely hit from the titanite demon.
 

ClearMetal

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Oct 25, 2017
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Thank you and all the others for the tips.

As stupid as it sounds, i can now beat those skeletons and even the bigger with no trouble, just had to lose all the dark souls 3/bloodborne mentality.

Its an hard game for sure.

My equip load is at 31.0/53%, its a medium role right?

Another question i have is whats the use of having 1, 2 or more humanity consumed ? They raise the discovery?
I haven't gotten far in either DS3 and BB, but from what I understand DS1 plays a lot slower and therefore encourages slow, shield-based defense. Combat in BB in particular is the way it is in an effort to remedy that play style.

I don't think the game is particularly hard, just very obtuse. Aside from a few lines of text in the Asylum it doesn't explain anything. It can be very daunting in the beginning.

53% is a fat roll. Here's a vid that shows all three of them, including how they impact your timing when rolling through attacks. With fat rolls it's almost impossible to time it correctly:

 

ClearMetal

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,327
the Netherlands
Oh man, screw those big-ass sentinels in the hall leading up to Fatboy and Slim. Giant aggro radius and they even healed themselves. Finally got them by kiting them up the stairs, wait for them to go back again and then plung into them.

Upgrading the Iaito was one of the best decisions I made so far. Though one wonders how giant slabs of metal bleed out...

Luckily another nearby giant is a big teddy bear. I don't have a +10 curved sword currently, but I'm thinking of making Qualaag's Furysword just for the sake of it and exclusively use it when I go farm humanity to feed to her sister.
 

7threst

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,297
Netherlands
It annoys me you're not able to farm green titanite properly since only three slimes drop from the ceiling in the hall leading up to the bonfire in the Depths. Also, Humanity farming from rats also seems toned down :(
 

Nezacant

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Oct 27, 2017
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It annoys me you're not able to farm green titanite properly since only three slimes drop from the ceiling in the hall leading up to the bonfire in the Depths. Also, Humanity farming from rats also seems toned down :(
I think this is fixed in the latest patch. I was in this area before work and more than 3 slimes dropped.
 

ClearMetal

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Oct 25, 2017
15,327
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It annoys me you're not able to farm green titanite properly since only three slimes drop from the ceiling in the hall leading up to the bonfire in the Depths. Also, Humanity farming from rats also seems toned down :(
You can farm those leeches in the swamp of Blighttown. I farmed them earlier and had an average of one drop (x 5 shards) per run. That was even without humanity and the gold Snake ring.
 

Noema

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Jan 17, 2018
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Man, I just beat the AL Dynamic Duo on my first try and my hands are still shaking. I know that it's no big deal and that people beat them SL1 all the time, even with unupgraded starting equippment. But I have lingering PTSD from these two. They killed me over a hundred times back in the day.

Looking at my old Xbox 360 achievements, apparently I got to Anor Londo on April 8th, 2012, and didn't get the Lordvessel until April 21st. So that's 13 days of me banging my head against this wall.

I'm not a great souls player or anything, but it feels good to know that I've improved at these games and that I have much better understanding of the mechanics now. Also, knowing how to spec your character around an specific weapon helps too. I was R1'ing Smough for 800+ with my +10 Large Club with GPR. Went down so fast.

You can farm those leeches in the swamp of Blighttown. I farmed them earlier and had an average of one drop (x 5 shards) per run. That was even without humanity and the gold Snake ring.

Yeah, that's a great place to farm. I got over 25 shards (both green and regular large) in less than an hour.
 

Chitown B

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Nov 15, 2017
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It annoys me you're not able to farm green titanite properly since only three slimes drop from the ceiling in the hall leading up to the bonfire in the Depths. Also, Humanity farming from rats also seems toned down :(

I got 30 humanity from the rats near the Depths bonfire in a couple hours.

I think this is fixed in the latest patch. I was in this area before work and more than 3 slimes dropped.

oh good. I would look up and see 5-6, but only 3 ever dropped. I thought I was going crazy.
 

Morrigan

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Oct 24, 2017
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Did anyone notice this bug (been seeing it since the patch) when fighting 4 Kings, where you see the actual 4 Kings' silhouettes before they spawn? And when they do spawn it's not even necessarily where the silhouettes were, making it a complete clusterfuck?

I don't know if this happens in single-player but I was helping a friend last night and we all saw them in his game, and it was freaky!
 

7threst

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Oct 25, 2017
3,297
Netherlands
I think this is fixed in the latest patch. I was in this area before work and more than 3 slimes dropped.

Yerah, just noticed :)

You can farm those leeches in the swamp of Blighttown. I farmed them earlier and had an average of one drop (x 5 shards) per run. That was even without humanity and the gold Snake ring.

Good tip, I'm kinda early still, but will make a run for thaty then.

I got 30 humanity from the rats near the Depths bonfire in a couple hours.

I did that, but they seem to drop way ess somehow...
 

Zealuu

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Feb 13, 2018
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It annoys me you're not able to farm green titanite properly since only three slimes drop from the ceiling in the hall leading up to the bonfire in the Depths. Also, Humanity farming from rats also seems toned down :(

Just farm them in the left part of the poison lake around Queelag before you kill her, I had a +5 Magic Sword as soon as got back up from there

Sorcery update: Now have Crown of Dusk, Bellowing Dragoncrest Ring and the absolutely ridiculous Homing Soul Mass.
 

Markitron

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Oct 25, 2017
12,510
Ireland
I'm using the Black Knight Sword and The Crest shield, am I right in thinking they can't be upgraded past level 5?

I have the sword at +4 and the shield at +2, but I'm worried they are going to start losing their effectiveness towards the end of the game, I'm just about to enter the gate that opened after ringing the second bell.
 

Dr. Benton Quest

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm using the Black Knight Sword and The Crest shield, am I right in thinking they can't be upgraded past level 5?

I have the sword at +4 and the shield at +2, but I'm worried they are going to start losing their effectiveness towards the end of the game, I'm just about to enter the gate that opened after ringing the second bell.
BKS has decent scaling with Strength (c). It has high base damage too. Just keep leveling and it'll get better. And yes it goes to +5
 

99humanity

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm using the Black Knight Sword and The Crest shield, am I right in thinking they can't be upgraded past level 5?

I have the sword at +4 and the shield at +2, but I'm worried they are going to start losing their effectiveness towards the end of the game, I'm just about to enter the gate that opened after ringing the second bell.

Weapons/shields/armor that use twinkling titanite only go to +5. The black knight weapons are good for the whole game, you're lucky if one drops early because you have to get to the very end of the game to farm for them.
 

Markitron

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Oct 25, 2017
12,510
Ireland
BKS has good scaling. Just keep leveling and it'll get better. And yes it goes to +5
Yea I'm putting all my points into strength at the minute. I killed the boss that guards the second bell in literally 3 hits.

Weapons/shields/armor that use twinkling titanite only go to +5. The black knight weapons are good for the whole game, you're lucky if one drops early because you have to get to the very end of the game to farm for them.
Good to hear, is there anywhere I can farm the twinkling titanite? I already got some from the crow.