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Briareos

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Oct 28, 2017
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The little one isn't awake yet. I did get an extra hour of sleep "due" to the clocks falling back!
It's truly one of the best feelings in the world. Back in the day I used to have 6am two-hour iaido practice every Sunday except the last Sunday of the month, and when that coincided with the October fall-back it was like the heavens opened up and smiled on me in my blissful sleep.
 

mclaren777

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Oct 28, 2017
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Just brought my second child (first daughter) home from the hospital last night.

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Rory

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Oct 25, 2017
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Ugh. My 6 week old is running us ragged with his sleep pattern. Even though we've tried to establish a routine, every night he wakes up at the slightest sound or movement. If his pacifier falls out of his mouth, he cries until one of us puts it back in. Then there's the 3 times a night where he wakes up screaming bloody murder for a diaper change and feeding. Anyone have any advice for trying to get your kid sleeping longer at night? I'm so sleep deprived when I wake up for him that I'm afraid I'm going to drop him.
Honestly the first weeks/month are just tough. They are still too small to put pacifiers back in themselves etc.

Does your baby sleep alone in a room? Children at that age still need their parents around them, preferably with body contact. (letting the babies share a bed with you is dangerous thought, baby cribs/nests etc can be an option placed next to either side of the bed) an own room is often way too isolating for them at such a young age.

Imaging a few weeks before they were inside their mom 24/7 and now all of a sudden mom cant even be seen (which equals "is dead" for that ages cognitive understanding, it doesnt really process that you are still there even if you leave the room) in lifes most dangerous moments. Sleep is something uncertain for babies, its compareable to death for grown ups, they dont know they will wake up again. It's a bit like they are stepping toward the unknown every day again, doing that alone is hard.

Also helpful could be to have something that smells like you with your baby in his bed. Babies sensory reception is pretty limited at that age, therefore smell has a very strong effect on them. Make sure it's something age friendly, no cuddletoys nor strings in the crib. Maybe make the bedsheets smell after your natural scent or most used parfume.

Usually you shouldnt put a pacifier back in after it fell out, because this means it blocked the babies mouth too much. What kind of pacifier are you using? Maybe it's too big for his age (yes they have different sizes for each age) and therefore keeps falling out because it hinders your childs breathing when reaching a certain phase of sleeping? A smaller pacifier might lead to less drop outs.

Make sure to take turns with your partner, so that one person gets to sleep and the other takes care and the next day you switch roles.
 

Violence Jack

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Oct 25, 2017
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Honestly the first weeks/month are just tough. They are still too small to put pacifiers back in themselves etc.

Does your baby sleep alone in a room? Children at that age still need their parents around them, preferably with body contact. (letting the babies share a bed with you is dangerous thought, baby cribs/nests etc can be an option placed next to either side of the bed) an own room is often way too isolating for them at such a young age.

Imaging a few weeks before they were inside their mom 24/7 and now all of a sudden mom cant even be seen (which equals "is dead" for that ages cognitive understanding, it doesnt really process that you are still there even if you leave the room) in lifes most dangerous moments. Sleep is something uncertain for babies, its compareable to death for grown ups, they dont know they will wake up again. It's a bit like they are stepping toward the unknown every day again, doing that alone is hard.

Also helpful could be to have something that smells like you with your baby in his bed. Babies sensory reception is pretty limited at that age, therefore smell has a very strong effect on them. Make sure it's something age friendly, no cuddletoys nor strings in the crib. Maybe make the bedsheets smell after your natural scent or most used parfume.

Usually you shouldnt put a pacifier back in after it fell out, because this means it blocked the babies mouth too much. What kind of pacifier are you using? Maybe it's too big for his age (yes they have different sizes for each age) and therefore keeps falling out because it hinders your childs breathing when reaching a certain phase of sleeping? A smaller pacifier might lead to less drop outs.

Make sure to take turns with your partner, so that one person gets to sleep and the other takes care and the next day you switch roles.

Thank you for the advice. I did some research and we've started taking his soothie pacifier out of his mouth when he's asleep in his pack n play. We made sure to put that right next to our bed so that we can immediately get to him. I didn't know about putting something that smells like me or my wife. I'll definitely give that a shot. He was just going through a growth spurt the last two days and his sleeping got really erratic.
 

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Has anybody here dealt with what the internet seems to call... a threenager?

Honestly, I'm struggling (and I only have to deal with breakfast and bed during the week) and my wife is getting close to the end of her tether. Any advice would be so freaking welcome.
 

Fable

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Oct 25, 2017
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Has anybody here dealt with what the internet seems to call... a threenager?

Honestly, I'm struggling (and I only have to deal with breakfast and bed during the week) and my wife is getting close to the end of her tether. Any advice would be so freaking welcome.

I have dealt with the horror of a threenager and continue to deal with flare ups now that she's four, though they're getting less frequent. It's hell, but you've got to stand your ground and follow through with threats of punishment, pick your battles don't fight over everything if they want to brush their hair or not let them it doesn't matter, try and figure out the cues to coming tantrums and learn ways to head them off like instead of saying what do you want to wear, give them two options. Threenagers suck but it will get better, until then help each other as much as you can, when you get home take the kid and give Mom some time alone. If preschool is an option maybe look into part-time enrollment so she gets a break during the day.
 

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I have dealt with the horror of a threenager and continue to deal with flare ups now that she's four, though they're getting less frequent. It's hell, but you've got to stand your ground and follow through with threats of punishment, pick your battles don't fight over everything if they want to brush their hair or not let them it doesn't matter, try and figure out the cues to coming tantrums and learn ways to head them off like instead of saying what do you want to wear, give them two options. Threenagers suck but it will get better, until then help each other as much as you can, when you get home take the kid and give Mom some time alone. If preschool is an option maybe look into part-time enrollment so she gets a break during the day.

Thanks, the either or thing sounds like a great solution to some of our issues. He goes to preschool 3 days a week, we're considering a fourth as it seems he only gets this way with us and not his carers at school or his grandparents.

Very much appreciated, thank you.
 

Fable

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Oct 25, 2017
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Thanks, the either or thing sounds like a great solution to some of our issues. He goes to preschool 3 days a week, we're considering a fourth as it seems he only gets this way with us and not his carers at school or his grandparents.

Very much appreciated, thank you.

It's awesome how they save their "best" behavior for us, isn't it? Part of that is that they know we love them and will deal with it, part of it is they're not disciplined as much by other people because those people don't have to deal with an undisciplined mess.
 

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It's awesome how they save their "best" behavior for us, isn't it? Part of that is that they know we love them and will deal with it, part of it is they're not disciplined as much by other people because those people don't have to deal with an undisciplined mess.

Yeah. He's really a treasure, but he knows how to push our buttons so well. Super excited for the real teenage years!
 

Carfo

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Oct 27, 2017
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How do you guys deal with keeping your house clean? I work in the day and my wife works at night, so I come home to a messy house every day. My wife cleans, but the kids just make a huge mess again. I come home to the mess, I clean, and by the night they threw all their toys on the floor and pulled their clothes out of their draws or threw their food on the floor. They're 2 and 4, I tell them repeatedly that they need to clean up after themselves, and even started doing a sticker chart for every time they clean they get a sticker and eventually a toy if they get enough stickers, but they still throw everything and knock stuff off tables and when I ask them why they just shrug and say "i don't know". My wife and I spend hours every day just cleaning and it's becoming too much. Any tips? Or do we just have to let them out grow it and deal with the messes daily and spend hours cleaning every day?
 

Power Shot

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Oct 27, 2017
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How do you guys deal with keeping your house clean? I work in the day and my wife works at night, so I come home to a messy house every day. My wife cleans, but the kids just make a huge mess again. I come home to the mess, I clean, and by the night they threw all their toys on the floor and pulled their clothes out of their draws or threw their food on the floor. They're 2 and 4, I tell them repeatedly that they need to clean up after themselves, and even started doing a sticker chart for every time they clean they get a sticker and eventually a toy if they get enough stickers, but they still throw everything and knock stuff off tables and when I ask them why they just shrug and say "i don't know". My wife and I spend hours every day just cleaning and it's becoming too much. Any tips? Or do we just have to let them out grow it and deal with the messes daily and spend hours cleaning every day?
Do what you can. My wife and I have really let our cleaning slide since our son was born, but we just sort of work through it. It helps that right now she's stay at home, which means she can do stuff during the day and not have to worry about a job. It also means I can relieve her when I get home from work.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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Carfo the biggest thing I can suggest is to minimize the stuff you have out for them to toss about. We used to have like 6 bins of toys Pete would just dump out and not play with at all. Now we just rotate a few beloved toys. Same goes for food. Give them a little at a time so they don't just dump a whole bowl of cereal on the floor. Even then its still hard but it was a minor improvement for me.
 

VentusGallius

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Oct 25, 2017
295
I'll echo the thoughts on limiting the number of toys to choose from or to cycle them. We have so many toys for our kid that we got from other people but she ends up just ping ponging between them if we leave everything out. We packed up most of it and she hasn't noticed at all. Since packing up most the toys clean up time is much faster.

I'm not sure if this would help but we also setup a semiperm train set on a coffee table. While the set dominates the coffee table she also loves it and contains mess to a single location that is hard to mess up too badly.
 

SteveWD40

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Oct 29, 2017
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Hey, just wanted to say Hi to my fellow parents on Era.

My wife and I have 1 year old twin boys (identical) and I would welcome any discourse around how to manage twins (I can advise on the first year and be advised on the remaining 17!)
 

Redcrayon

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Oct 27, 2017
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Hello everyone, I'm glad to find this thread. Currently sitting up with my two-year-old girl who is teething, while my wife is sleeping.

Messy house- we've got the toys in big plastic boxes that rotate on a weekly basis at the moment. One toy goes away for every one that comes out, with the exception of her chosen inner circle of fluffy friends/comforters. Or the 'council of mischief', as I call them! Two kids sounds tough, our little one runs us ragged, her nap schedule is all over the place at the moment so ours is too.

SteveWD40
I'm a twin myself and can try and dredge up some childhood memories if you want some vague, 30+ year old advice :-)
 

CrudeDiatribe

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Oct 25, 2017
2,105
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4 month checkup/vaccines today. 80th percentile for height and just 6th for weight. Doctor was unconcerned, so my daughter continues on her trend to potential fashion model/human ballista bolt.

Doctor said we could start introducing cereals now if she was interested, and to introduce peanut butter at that time.
 

Blackpuppy

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Oct 28, 2017
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How do you guys deal with keeping your house clean? I work in the day and my wife works at night, so I come home to a messy house every day. My wife cleans, but the kids just make a huge mess again. I come home to the mess, I clean, and by the night they threw all their toys on the floor and pulled their clothes out of their draws or threw their food on the floor. They're 2 and 4, I tell them repeatedly that they need to clean up after themselves, and even started doing a sticker chart for every time they clean they get a sticker and eventually a toy if they get enough stickers, but they still throw everything and knock stuff off tables and when I ask them why they just shrug and say "i don't know". My wife and I spend hours every day just cleaning and it's becoming too much. Any tips? Or do we just have to let them out grow it and deal with the messes daily and spend hours cleaning every day?

We keep all of our daughter's toys in her room. This helps centralize the mess a lot.

I would try to get them to clean up their messes as much as possible. Stickers are a good idea, but don't be afraid to take away TV time or whatever they really like to do (and then remember your ear plugs when they throw their obligatory fit).
 

Fable

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Oct 25, 2017
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Isn't peanut butter a huge problem due to potential allergic reactions? Been a few years now since we were weaning but we were always told to avoid nuts for the first few years?

The recommendation now is to introduce early. I believe new studies have found putting it off has actually led to more allergies. I do not have links to the studies, but I'm pretty sure the AAP or whatever that acronym is now recommends early introduction. The only foods we've been told to avoid are honey because of botulism and cow and soy milk.
 

RetroMG

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Oct 25, 2017
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The recommendation now is to introduce early. I believe new studies have found putting it off has actually led to more allergies. I do not have links to the studies, but I'm pretty sure the AAP or whatever that acronym is now recommends early introduction. The only foods we've been told to avoid are honey because of botulism and cow and soy milk.

I don't have studies either, but I can confirm that I've heard the same.
 

Rob

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Oct 25, 2017
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The recommendation now is to introduce early. I believe new studies have found putting it off has actually led to more allergies. I do not have links to the studies, but I'm pretty sure the AAP or whatever that acronym is now recommends early introduction. The only foods we've been told to avoid are honey because of botulism and cow and soy milk.
What's the best way to introduce peanut butter? Our nurse said to start as well, but should I just give him a spoonful before a bottle?
 

Fable

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Oct 25, 2017
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They make peanut powder that people put in smoothies, it's by the peanut butter, we've been sprinkling it in with his rice cereal and that works pretty well.
 

VentusGallius

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Oct 25, 2017
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The science around allergy prevention is particularly interesting to me since I have severe food allergies and am hopeful that my daughter doesn't get any. Unfortunately its looking like treenuts might be on the table for her as she recently had a breakout on her face and through process of elimination the only thing we could isolate as causing it was a family member recently eating almonds and kissing the baby on the cheek (the area of largest rash and hives). Funnily enough I didn't even think about looking up the peanut thing when my wife was pregnant but my Dad was all over that. Apparently me being allergic to peanuts left a void in his life where I couldn't eat PB and Js or peanut butter and crackers with him. So one day nearing the end of the pregnancy my Dad just throws all this info about how to prevent peanut allergies and a plan of action as to what I should do. He REALLY wants to sit down with my daughter and just eat peanutbutter and crackers.

Going to look into the peanut powder or testing the more scary allergies soon.
 

Podge293

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Oct 25, 2017
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The world's cutest sound is newborn hiccups

It is something else ha

Any who random one for ye folks.

I was particularly lazy one of the days and decided to was a handful of the bottles in the dishwasher. I unfortunately forgot we'd had spaghetti Bolognese the night before and I've ended up staining a bunch of the bottles and lids.

Anyone any idea how to go about removing these stains?

In other news wee Tadhg is mostly a saint so far. I'd say in the past 3 weeks we've had 2 bad nights the rest sleeping soundly.

He's a guzzler tho so the public health nurse suggested we slow that down but like myself he clearly loves food haha. Trying out new bottle nibs to slow the flow down
 

CrudeDiatribe

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Oct 25, 2017
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He's a guzzler tho so the public health nurse suggested we slow that down but like myself he clearly loves food haha. Trying out new bottle nibs to slow the flow down

The midwife gave us some tubes to use— like big flexible straws with an internal diameter of about 1mm. Poked one end through a bottle nipple and the other goes next to mom's nipple and kiddo thinks she is breast feeding.
 

Septimus Prime

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Oct 25, 2017
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I was particularly lazy one of the days and decided to was a handful of the bottles in the dishwasher. I unfortunately forgot we'd had spaghetti Bolognese the night before and I've ended up staining a bunch of the bottles and lids.
I've done that. You can try soaking it in water and dishwashing liquid (but that didn't work for me). You can also try a bit of bleach, but I didn't want to do that.
 

RetroMG

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Oct 25, 2017
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I was particularly lazy one of the days and decided to was a handful of the bottles in the dishwasher. I unfortunately forgot we'd had spaghetti Bolognese the night before and I've ended up staining a bunch of the bottles and lids.

Anyone any idea how to go about removing these stains?

I've done that. You can try soaking it in water and dishwashing liquid (but that didn't work for me). You can also try a bit of bleach, but I didn't want to do that.

Washing them several times, particularly in the dishwasher (without tomato products) eventually made it go away.
 

Podge293

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Oct 25, 2017
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I've done that. You can try soaking it in water and dishwashing liquid (but that didn't work for me). You can also try a bit of bleach, but I didn't want to do that.

Washing them several times, particularly in the dishwasher (without tomato products) eventually made it go away.

Ah I'll give that a bash so. I've no problem keeping them in use but the wife is afraid someone might judge us so we'll probably end up getting a set of new ones for when we're out and about
 

Septimus Prime

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Ah I'll give that a bash so. I've no problem keeping them in use but the wife is afraid someone might judge us so we'll probably end up getting a set of new ones for when we're out and about
Don't worry. People will judge you for things other than your bottles.

For example, our daycare has already judged us for the food we bring. "We noticed he doesn't like the fruit pouches. Maybe you can cut some fresh fruit for him to bring."
 

Podge293

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Oct 25, 2017
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Don't worry. People will judge you for things other than your bottles.

For example, our daycare has already judged us for the food we bring. "We noticed he doesn't like the fruit pouches. Maybe you can cut some fresh fruit for him to bring."

Ha that sounds ridiculous. I look forward to similar discussions in the future.

As for now I'm back to work after 3 weeks off with the wee man. Gonna be a weird ass day
 

Jive Turkey

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Oct 25, 2017
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My 3 year old son just greeted my wife at the door with "Hi, mommy! Daddy has a headache. Don't bust his chops."

I love this kid.
 

Drakeon

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Oct 25, 2017
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Oh hey there's a parenting era.

I just became a dad 7ish weeks ago, but mostly been enjoying Parenthood so far. He just started sleeping through the night, and we're not entirely sure why (we think it's the new white noise we've been using that sounds like a womb). But he's slept through the night 3 days in a row now, so we're hoping it becomes a regular thing
 
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Oh hey there's a parenting era.

I just became a dad 7ish weeks ago, but mostly been enjoying Parenthood so far. He just started sleeping through the night, and we're not entirely sure why (we think it's the new white noise we've been using that sounds like a womb). But he's slept through the night 3 days in a row now, so we're hoping it becomes a regular thing
Wow, that sounds nice! I've read that this usually happens around 100 days, but your kid is way ahead of schedule. Is he drinking formula or breast milk? My kid is just 23 days old and still needs to wake up to eat every 90-150 minutes.
 

Fable

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Oct 25, 2017
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My son slept through the night 3 days in a row and I was so excited. I hoped I'd finally made it, but here I am at 2 o'clock in the morning, nursing him. My daughter was already sleeping through the night at this point, if he wasn't sick I would have just rocked him and put him down, soon. The doctor said he should be able to at this point. Momma needs her sleep.
 
Oh wow :( Do you have another place lined up or is this out of nowhere?

Notice out of the blue. There's nothing malicious or 'fault'-related about it per se - the owners have just decided to move back from overseas and want to live in it now - but we've been here almost 2 years now and the time frame they gave us is the absolute minimum. :/

We had been on a long term yearly lease, but they never sent a full year extension to re-sign so we'd been paying month to month, which makes us suspect they had this in mind, at least. Would have been bloody nice to know. I'm due in 2 weeks IF I don't pop early and I already struggle to just watch kid #1 physically-speaking, so I have no idea how I'm going to pack this place up. We're both frantically searching for suitable places, but even a 3 bedroom terrace (i.e. cramped as all hell) here is ~$1750/month and that doesn't even include council tax (another ~$250ish/month on top). There's no way we'll find anything halfway decent local. Sigh. My husband's already miserly paternal leave (2 weeks of his personal vacation time) is going to be spent on this now while I get to tackle Mia and the newborn instead of healing up. Wahey. I'd be pissed if I wasn't so tired.
 
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Hollywood Duo

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Notice out of the blue. There's nothing malicious or 'fault'-related about it per se - the owners have just decided to move back from overseas and want to live in it now - but we've been here almost 2 years now and the time frame they gave us is the absolute minimum. :/

We had been on a long term yearly lease, but they never sent a full year extension to re-sign so we'd been paying month to month, which makes us suspect they had this in mind, at least. Would have been bloody nice to know. I'm due in 2 weeks IF I don't pop early and I already struggle to just watch kid #1 physically-speaking, so I have no idea how I'm going to pack this place up. We're both frantically searching for suitable places, but even a 3 bedroom terrace (i.e. cramped as all hell) here is ~$1750/month and that doesn't even include council tax (another ~$250ish/month on top). There's no way we'll find anything halfway decent local. Sigh. My husband's already miserly paternal leave (2 weeks of his personal vacation time) is going to be spent on this now while I get to tackle Mia and the newborn instead of healing up. Wahey. I'd be pissed if I wasn't so tired.
What a nightmare, hoping for the best for you and your family.
 

Fable

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Oct 25, 2017
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Notice out of the blue. There's nothing malicious or 'fault'-related about it per se - the owners have just decided to move back from overseas and want to live in it now - but we've been here almost 2 years now and the time frame they gave us is the absolute minimum. :/

We had been on a long term yearly lease, but they never sent a full year extension to re-sign so we'd been paying month to month, which makes us suspect they had this in mind, at least. Would have been bloody nice to know. I'm due in 2 weeks IF I don't pop early and I already struggle to just watch kid #1 physically-speaking, so I have no idea how I'm going to pack this place up. We're both frantically searching for suitable places, but even a 3 bedroom terrace (i.e. cramped as all hell) here is ~$1750/month and that doesn't even include council tax (another ~$250ish/month on top). There's no way we'll find anything halfway decent local. Sigh. My husband's already miserly paternal leave (2 weeks of his personal vacation time) is going to be spent on this now while I get to tackle Mia and the newborn instead of healing up. Wahey. I'd be pissed if I wasn't so tired.

That's awful, definitely try speaking to your landlord if you can. If not, just take everything one step at a time. Reach out to any friends or family that can help if you're able to. Wish I was there to help hugs