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flyinj

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Oct 25, 2017
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What patriots!

http://gothamist.com/2018/06/06/brooklyn_ice_pizza_delivery.php

MOD EDIT (come on, OP):

An immigrant delivery worker from Ecuador faces deportation after bringing pizza to the Fort Hamilton military base in Bay Ridge on Friday. After being let onto the base around noon using his NYC municipal ID, a soldier reportedly asked Pablo Villavicencio, 35, for proof of citizenship, and detained him when he didn't provide it. El Diario reports (translation here) that the soldier then called ICE, which transported Villavicencio to an immigration center in Manhattan. He was transferred to a base in New Jersey over the weekend, where he is in ICE custody pending removal.

Villavicencio had delivered pizza to this base previously, said Bay Ridge Councilman Justin Brannan at a press conference outside the base this morning. According to Sandra Chica, Villavicencio's wife, he applied for a Green Card in February, and it is currently pending. Chica and their two children are U.S. citizens, and Villavicencio has been in the country for 10 years.

"A lawyer told me that there is nothing he can do, that he is going to be deported," Chica said at the press conference.
 
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dallow_bg

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Oct 28, 2017
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So now his two daughters are going to be without a father and his wife in financial distress. (All 3 are citizens).

His green card status was pending review.

Fuck that base.
 

Deleted member 14089

Oct 27, 2017
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Villavicencio had delivered pizza to this base previously, said Bay Ridge Councilman Justin Brannan at a press conference outside the base this morning. According to Sandra Chica, Villavicencio's wife, he applied for a Green Card in February, and it is currently pending. Chica and their two children are U.S. citizens, and Villavicencio has been in the country for 10 years.
"How is it possible that they want to separate the father of two babies... just because he didn't have a document?" Chica asked at today's rally. "The girls will not stop asking for their dad. We talked with him over the weekend. He was crying, and the girls noticed it, and we didn't know what to tell them. They are the most affected. They are suffering so much."

Crazy.
Sad.
 

FliX

Master of the Reality Stone
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Oct 25, 2017
9,856
Metro Detroit
So was this like a citizens arrest? Did the soldier have any right to a) ask him for proof and then b) detain him?
 

Tbm24

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hope eateries no longer deliver to this base. Bunch of assholes. Are they allowed to hold him against his will if they aren't ICE?
 

chefbags

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Oct 25, 2017
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My God. Imagine fucking delivering pizza like it's just part of your normal shift. And later on finding out you're going to be deported.

Fucking cruel.
 

CrankyJay

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Oct 25, 2017
11,318
He had a warrant.

In a statement provided to BuzzFeed News, a Fort Hamilton spokesperson said Villavicencio tried to "make a delivery without valid Department of Defense identification." When instructed to get a daily pass, the spokesperson said Villavicencio signed "a waiver permitting a background check, Department of the Army Access Control standard for all visitors, an active Immigration and Customs Enforcement warrant was discovered on file" and he was detained. "Commanders are authorized to take reasonably necessary and lawful measures to maintain law and order and protect installation personnel and property."
 

Coyote Starrk

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Oct 30, 2017
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So was this like a citizens arrest? Did the soldier have any right to a) ask him for proof and then b) detain him?
Apparently yes. The story covers that at the end I think.


What I find crazier is the fact the guy has applied for a green card and it's pending review and they still are gonna deport a father of 2 kids who ARE citizens.
 

LegalEagleMike

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Oct 25, 2017
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In a statement provided to BuzzFeed News, a Fort Hamilton spokesperson said Villavicencio tried to "make a delivery without valid Department of Defense identification." When instructed to get a daily pass, the spokesperson said Villavicencio signed "a waiver permitting a background check, Department of the Army Access Control standard for all visitors, an active Immigration and Customs Enforcement warrant was discovered on file" and he was detained. "Commanders are authorized to take reasonably necessary and lawful measures to maintain law and order and protect installation personnel and property."
 

'3y Kingdom

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Oct 27, 2017
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Apparently yes. The story covers that at the end I think.


What I find crazier is the fact the guy has applied for a green card and it's pending review and they still are gonna deport a father of 2 kids who ARE citizens.

And now the green card application will most likely be thrown away. All because of the guy making a delivery he'd made many times before.
 

Deleted member 3208

Oct 25, 2017
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A patriotic citizen doing his job by denouncing those filthy illegal aliens. /s

Fuck that shit. What a disgusting human being the soldier who reported him.
 

Hokahey

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Oct 28, 2017
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This story is heartbreaking, but he was here illegally and had an ICE warrant. Our laws are our laws. I'm not sure what the solution to these situations is. I want to see a better way. But you have to know that if you are not here legally that your time could come at any time.
 

weekev

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Oct 25, 2017
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There is definitely a culture of fear being created in America. Anyone black or foreign is going to fear anyone white which is going to drive a wedge between races and cultures and create an equivelant of apartheid in America. That might be over dramatic but it looks like that way to me.
 

acheron_xl

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Oct 27, 2017
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This story is heartbreaking, but he was here illegally and had an ICE warrant. Our laws are our laws. I'm not sure what the solution to these situations is. I want to see a better way. But you have to know that if you are not here legally that your time could come at any time.

Because every law is always equally enforced, and never used selectively to dole out punishment.
 

5taquitos

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This story is heartbreaking, but he was here illegally and had an ICE warrant. Our laws are our laws. I'm not sure what the solution to these situations is. I want to see a better way. But you have to know that if you are not here legally that your time could come at any time.
Yeah this is tough. The base was following protocol and the guy had an active warrant on his record.

Is the process fucked from the ground up? Without a doubt. But I don't think this story is as malicious as it sounds.
 

CrankyJay

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Oct 25, 2017
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Some more info

A spokesperson for ICE in New York told BuzzFeed News Villavicencio's application for a green card does not protect him from deportation.

"That doesn't affect whether or not he is removable. That case will remain pending even after removal, and if it's approved while he's out of the country he will be told as such and be able to come back," said ICE spokesperson Rachael Yong Yow.

She said Villavicencio was "granted voluntary departure" in March 2010 but that he didn't leave the country by July 2010, so "his voluntary departure order became a final order of removal and he is an ICE fugitive."

Asked if his arrest and pending deportation could affect his green card application, Yow said, "I want to say it shouldn't affect that, but that is a [US Citizenship and Immigration Services] question. I have no idea if it affects that. But I know on our end that isn't one of those pending things that affects if they are removable."

But according to USCIS, in most cases where a green card applicant is arrested and deported by ICE, USCIS terminates the pending application because they lose jurisdiction over the case.

A spokesperson for USCIS, Arwen FitzGerald, told BuzzFeed News they could not comment on individual cases.

"As a matter of policy, USCIS reviews each Application to Register Permanent Residence or Adjust Status, Form I-485, for proper jurisdiction as well as other eligibility criteria," FitzGerald said.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/nidhipraka...ation-brooklyn?utm_term=.leq2PBANN#.grmrX0oaa
 

4859

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Oct 27, 2017
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In the weak and the wounded
What the fuck?

In NYC?

AND a soldier?

THE FUCK!!!????

Fuck that sham ass motherfucker.

Yeah this is tough. The base was following protocol and the guy had an active warrant on his record.

Is the process fucked from the ground up? Without a doubt. But I don't think this story is as malicious as it sounds.

....
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Shit. Yeah, not as malicious, but just as fucked up, just in New ways.
 

Coyote Starrk

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Oct 30, 2017
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This story is heartbreaking, but he was here illegally and had an ICE warrant. Our laws are our laws. I'm not sure what the solution to these situations is. I want to see a better way. But you have to know that if you are not here legally that your time could come at any time.
He had already applied for a green card and it was pending review.

He was making a fucking pizza delivery and now he is gonna be separated for his kids and get deported because he was making a delivery THAT HE HAD MADE BEFORE WITH NO ISSUE.

They could have easily fastracked his application or decided to hold him until it was processed, but since he is a minority they are gonna immediately deport him.


So no the whole "rules is rules" bs isn't gonna work here.
 

Krauser Kat

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Oct 27, 2017
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ICE are the new gestapo and Stalins secret guard. Fascists and awful people through and through.
 

TAJ

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Yeah this is tough. The base was following protocol and the guy had an active warrant on his record.

Is the process fucked from the ground up? Without a doubt. But I don't think this story is as malicious as it sounds.

I've made at least 150 trips onto bases in the last decade and noone has ever asked me for proof of citizenship. It reeks of profiling.
 

rsfour

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This story is heartbreaking, but he was here illegally and had an ICE warrant. Our laws are our laws. I'm not sure what the solution to these situations is. I want to see a better way. But you have to know that if you are not here legally that your time could come at any time.

lol laws are our laws. That is going so well in America.