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stan_marsh

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,688
Canada
I've beaten Moonlight Butterfly and Bell Gargoyles.

You have the basement key? (Basement Key near the giant drawbridge gate in front of the Undead Parish.)
Go back to the bridge where the red dragon (Hellkite Wyvern) and get to Knight Solaire...around there you'll see a door and be able to use the basement key.
That leads to Lower Undead Burg.
 

Much

The Gif That Keeps on Giffing
Member
Feb 24, 2018
6,067
You have the basement key? (Basement Key near the giant drawbridge gate in front of the Undead Parish.)
Go back to the bridge where the red dragon (Hellkite Wyvern) and get to Knight Solaire...around there you'll see a door and be able to use the basement key.

That leads to Lower Undead Burg.

Thank you! I just beat the Capra Demon and am in the Depths. Looking for a damn bonfire now lol
 

Conrad Link

Member
Oct 29, 2017
3,663
New Zealand
Just 'finished' his story line and remembered it's so lame that you have to kill sunbro Solaire to get his armor, I don't even want to do it in a NG+ run. :(

I want the Amiibo A LOT anyway, but it would up the use of that even more if they added his armor to the scan for the Switch one.
 

stan_marsh

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,688
Canada
Thank you! I just beat the Capra Demon and am in the Depths. Looking for a damn bonfire now lol

You're on the right track.

Once you beat the boss in the Depths you get the Blighttown Key and the entrance is right there in the Depths...super close

I would highly recommend the Rusted Iron Ring. It will make Blighttown 10x easier.
 

Zealuu

Member
Feb 13, 2018
1,190
I'm about to approach the bed of chaos. Any tips?

If you don't mind gaming the mechanics a bit to minimize the chances of getting murdered by bad RNG, kill one of the things on the side, then quit and reload (you'll respawn right outside the fog gate, and killing these are permanent as it's a "puzzle boss"). Then do the other one, quit again, and then finally go straight ahead into the big hole that opens in the floor immediately in front of the boss.
 

Much

The Gif That Keeps on Giffing
Member
Feb 24, 2018
6,067
You're on the right track.

Once you beat the boss in the Depths you get the Blighttown Key and the entrance is right there in the Depths...super close

I would highly recommend the Rusted Iron Ring. It will make Blighttown 10x easier.

Yeah, I aim to get to Blight town and stop today. Too much frustrating stuff in this play through today. Bonfires are way too distant to each other but oh well.
 

HTupolev

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,440
I would highly recommend the Rusted Iron Ring. It will make Blighttown 10x easier.
It's definitely nice to have, although you can easily play around not having it. The game doesn't force you to engage anything in that part of Blighttown, and there's really only one enemy type where fast maneuverability is all that important anyway.
 

stan_marsh

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,688
Canada
Yeah, I aim to get to Blight town and stop today. Too much frustrating stuff in this play through today. Bonfires are way too distant to each other but oh well.

There's one bonefire right at the bottom of Blighttown, it's in a cave towards the middle.

Makes things much much easier, don't forget to kindle bonfires as well.
 

Caja 117

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,467
Guys, I have the original console version of Dark Souls, and is one of my favorite, does the remaster version worth the double dip?
 

Chekhonte

User banned for use of an alt-account
Banned
Oct 31, 2017
1,886
Something I never noticed on the trip from Sen's to Anor Londo is that you can see the exterior to the Duke's Archive on top of a hill.

quCL4ga.jpg
 

dat boi

Member
Oct 28, 2017
448
Just cheesed it! I threw a few Firebombs over the wall, which took away half of Capra's health. Then ran in and finished him with the Bastard Sword.

I had no idea you could do that.

When I beat Capra for the first time, it took 2-3 hour sessions over 2 days. Rough, but it felt sooo good when I beat it.

Your next big hurdle is
Ornstein & Smough
imo.
 

super-famicom

Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
25,232
Guys, I have the original console version of Dark Souls, and is one of my favorite, does the remaster version worth the double dip?

I have it on PS3 (both NA and JP versions), own the PtD version on Steam, and bought Remastered on PS4. The 60fps upgrade is amazing. I think the new lighting is weird, some spots that were previously ok look super dark now. Still, worth a purchase.
 

demosthenes

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,615
Okay, that's it. The navigation in this game is quite poor. I have no notion of where I'm supposed to go, and the game does little to no handholding in giving any idea where you're meant to go. I just got into the Valley of Drakes, and upon looknig at the wiki, it would seem this is near end-game... I haven't even reached Blight town yet

The way all the levels are woven together is actually quite good. But yes the game is basically self exploration and doesn't tell you where to go at all.
 

KeRaSh

I left my heart on Atropos
Member
Oct 26, 2017
10,272
I had no idea you could do that.

When I beat Capra for the first time, it took 2-3 hour sessions over 2 days. Rough, but it felt sooo good when I beat it.

Your next big hurdle is
Ornstein & Smough
imo.

I had waaaaay more trouble with the Capra Demon than with the other boss you mentioned...
Worst Souls boss in my opinion.
 

Much

The Gif That Keeps on Giffing
Member
Feb 24, 2018
6,067
The way all the levels are woven together is actually quite good. But yes the game is basically self exploration and doesn't tell you where to go at all.

They'd be much better woven together though if the separation between areas was extremely distant with no bonfires in between. It makes each time you die and absolute trek. DS3 and BB was a massive improvement in this regard.
 

Jingo

Banned
Dec 10, 2017
1,219
Ok so this game is so weird in terms of peogression, i just ringed the two bells and now i have the option to go to :

Sens fortress
Darkroot garden
Catacombs
New londo ruins
Demon ruins

What the hell? I know the logic is maybe go to sens fortress but there is so many places i feel like i can leave something behind, are all the places obligatory?
 

ClearMetal

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,328
the Netherlands
darksouls_remastered_hxsf8.jpg


Boom!

Something I never noticed on the trip from Sen's to Anor Londo is that you can see the exterior to the Duke's Archive on top of a hill.

quCL4ga.jpg
The sense of scale in this game is really something else. It was so great standing atop Sen's Funhouse and looking at the Parish bell tower. In the Parish itself it looks like a skybox, but nope. See that fortress? You can climb it™.

In fact, you can even see the Duke's Archives from the church roof.
 

HTupolev

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,440
Ok so this game is so weird in terms of peogression, i just ringed the two bells and now i have the option to go to :

Sens fortress
Darkroot garden
Catacombs
New londo ruins
Demon ruins

What the hell? I know the logic is maybe go to sens fortress but there is so many places i feel like i can leave something behind, are all the places obligatory?
The areas are all obligatory to some degree or another, but you won't be cut off from them later. Sen's is the main direction of game progression, but do what you feel like doing.
 

stan_marsh

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,688
Canada
Ok so this game is so weird in terms of peogression, i just ringed the two bells and now i have the option to go to :

Sens fortress
Darkroot garden
Catacombs
New londo ruins
Demon ruins

What the hell? I know the logic is maybe go to sens fortress but there is so many places i feel like i can leave something behind, are all the places obligatory?

They are all connected IIRC.

You can clear Darkroot & Catacombs before Sens as well but Sens is the next step.
 

ClearMetal

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,328
the Netherlands
Ok so this game is so weird in terms of peogression, i just ringed the two bells and now i have the option to go to :

Sens fortress
Darkroot garden
Catacombs
New londo ruins
Demon ruins

What the hell? I know the logic is maybe go to sens fortress but there is so many places i feel like i can leave something behind, are all the places obligatory?
You'll visit them all eventually. For now your next destination is Sen's Funhouse, but feel free to explore Darkroot Garden and the Catacombs if you like. The former has some nice weapons and a great armor set hidden in it. New Londo Ruins and Demon Ruins are possible as well, but may be a bit too hard at this point if this is your first time exploring them.
 

Jingo

Banned
Dec 10, 2017
1,219
You'll visit them all eventually. For now your next destination is Sen's Funhouse, but feel free to explore Darkroot Garden and the Catacombs if you like. The former has some nice weapons and a great armor set hidden in it. New Londo Ruins and Demon Ruins are possible as well, but may be a bit too hard at this point if this is your first time exploring them.
I went to darkroot garden , feeling a little relief that you have to go to all places eventually, but now im colecting soul to buy the crest for artorya.

Thabk you all for the tips.
 

motherless

Banned
Nov 6, 2017
2,282
darksouls_remastered_hxsf8.jpg


Boom!


The sense of scale in this game is really something else. It was so great standing atop Sen's Funhouse and looking at the Parish bell tower. In the Parish itself it looks like a skybox, but nope. See that fortress? You can climb it™.

In fact, you can even see the Duke's Archives from the church roof.

Yes, love the way the world feels connected. I hope they come back and make Dark Souls IV one day and get back to a design more like this version. I'd be fine if they revisit and re-envision some areas like Darkroot Garden as well.
 

Orochinagis

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
3,548
darksouls_remastered_hxsf8.jpg


Boom!


The sense of scale in this game is really something else. It was so great standing atop Sen's Funhouse and looking at the Parish bell tower. In the Parish itself it looks like a skybox, but nope. See that fortress? You can climb it™.

In fact, you can even see the Duke's Archives from the church roof.

You can see Darkroot garden river on sen fortress
 

Chekhonte

User banned for use of an alt-account
Banned
Oct 31, 2017
1,886
The sense of scale in this game is really something else. It was so great standing atop Sen's Funhouse and looking at the Parish bell tower. In the Parish itself it looks like a skybox, but nope. See that fortress? You can climb it™.

In fact, you can even see the Duke's Archives from the church roof.

HwzzN3m.jpg


I noticed that too.
 

Deleted member 34132

User requested account closure
Banned
Nov 23, 2017
732
Fuck the Anor Londo archers. I lost 9 humanity and a bunch of souls on my 7th attempt. And guess what... My 8th attempt with 0 humanity an 0 souls was successful.
 

N.47H.4N

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,098
I'm playing for the first time, and frankly the bosses so far are a disappointment, very easy and predictable, but I am loving the game.
I beat so far in order:
Asylum Demon,Taurus Demon,Bell Gargoyle,Moonlight Butterfly,Capra Demon,Pinwhell,Gaping Dragon
I know the former are always easier, but they are too easy.

Noob question, what is the advantage of have humanity or be empty? Compared for example to the insight on Bloodborne?
 

ClearMetal

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,328
the Netherlands
I almost feel bad for cheesing both Undead Dragon fights by sniping them. Almost.

Also: Beatrice's corpse. (;_;) She braved the Abyss, but did not have the ring... One wonders how she wound up in the Valley of Drakes, though.

I went to darkroot garden , feeling a little relief that you have to go to all places eventually, but now im colecting soul to buy the crest for artorya.

Thabk you all for the tips.
Crest of Artorias is expensive, but well worth it since you can farm for souls behind the door. Just be warned they will present a challenge at this point, so make sure to unlock the bonfire directly to the left of the door, hidden beind an illusionary wall, to reduce backtrack time.
 

ClearMetal

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,328
the Netherlands
Noob question, what is the advantage of have humanity or be empty? Compared for example to the insight on Bloodborne?
Humanity (whether 'soft' in hollow form or 'hard' in human form) raises item droprate, to a maximum of 210 at with 10 humanity. It also raises defense and curse resistance up to a poin, though the increase isn't very big (50 defense at 99 humanity).

You also need to pay humanity if you want to kindle bonfires, which gives you more estus flasks.
 

dom

▲ Legend ▲
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
10,461
Humanity (whether 'soft' in hollow form or 'hard' in human form) raises item droprate, to a maximum of 210 at with 10 humanity. It also raises defense and curse resistance up to a poin, though the increase isn't very big (50 defense at 99 humanity).

You also need to pay humanity if you want to kindle bonfires, which gives you more estus flasks.
Soft humanity is the one in the top left counter whether you are hollow or human. Hard humanity is the item that can be consumed.
 

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
Member
Oct 24, 2017
34,402
Something I never noticed on the trip from Sen's to Anor Londo is that you can see the exterior to the Duke's Archive on top of a hill.

quCL4ga.jpg
You can see Duke's Archives from even before that. This is from the Undead Parish bridge (where the hellkite drake was):
DARK-SOULS_-REMASTERED_20180526013517.png


Other levels-you-can-see-from-other-levels are Demon Ruins/Lost Izalith and even Ash Lake from the Tomb of the Giants, and of course the Parish from the top of Sen's, and the Undead Burg from the Lower Burg (pan the camera up and you can see exactly the bridge, structures etc. that you were on just a bit earlier in the game).
 

Chekhonte

User banned for use of an alt-account
Banned
Oct 31, 2017
1,886
You can see Duke's Archives from even before that. This is from the Undead Parish bridge (where the hellkite drake was):
DARK-SOULS_-REMASTERED_20180526013517.png


Other levels-you-can-see-from-other-levels are Demon Ruins/Lost Izalith and even Ash Lake from the Tomb of the Giants, and of course the Parish from the top of Sen's, and the Undead Burg from the Lower Burg (pan the camera up and you can see exactly the bridge, structures etc. that you were on just a bit earlier in the game).
Really cool. I don't think I'd have ever placed that building as the archive from that perspective.
 

SunBro

Member
Oct 27, 2017
164
Turkey
You can see Duke's Archives from even before that. This is from the Undead Parish bridge (where the hellkite drake was):
DARK-SOULS_-REMASTERED_20180526013517.png


Other levels-you-can-see-from-other-levels are Demon Ruins/Lost Izalith and even Ash Lake from the Tomb of the Giants, and of course the Parish from the top of Sen's, and the Undead Burg from the Lower Burg (pan the camera up and you can see exactly the bridge, structures etc. that you were on just a bit earlier in the game).

Holy fuck this is the first time i'm seeing this. I know all about church roof - duke / sen's - church / undead - lower visual connections but this?! My god.
 

burgerdog

Member
Oct 27, 2017
9,247
You can see Duke's Archives from even before that. This is from the Undead Parish bridge (where the hellkite drake was):
DARK-SOULS_-REMASTERED_20180526013517.png


Other levels-you-can-see-from-other-levels are Demon Ruins/Lost Izalith and even Ash Lake from the Tomb of the Giants, and of course the Parish from the top of Sen's, and the Undead Burg from the Lower Burg (pan the camera up and you can see exactly the bridge, structures etc. that you were on just a bit earlier in the game).

I've seen all the ones you mentioned except for Duke's Archive, which your picture clearly shows. That's awesome. The only thing I'm confused about is this:

"If you played Dark Souls 3, you can see Yorshka tower and the sen fortrees if you walk back"

If you walk back? Walk back where?
 

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
Member
Oct 24, 2017
34,402
To Think Ash Lake is the very bottom of the map than Izalith
One thing I absolutely love about the interconnected world in this game in particular, isn't just the interconnectedness itself, but the sheer feeling of progressive descent. You start the game in the brightly lit, sunny Burg. It's dilapidated and crumbling and swarming with hollows, but it's still pretty cheery by Souls standards. Then you go in the slightly darker and shaded lower Burg. Then you go in the gloomy, creepy Depths. Then the festering swamp of Blighttown. The further you descend, the more fucked up, creepy and hellish the landscape turns, with all the lava and demons and grotesque creatures (like the worms and centipede demon etc. ) and ruins of an epic ancient lost civilization, until you are in the very bowels of the Earth itself.

And then, underneath it all, is the most primordial place of them all, as said in the intro about the "Age of the Ancients": a land of gray crags, arch trees, and everlasting dragons, manifested beautifully in Ash Lake.

I don't actually care about the lore and all that stuff, but the atmosphere and the feel of progressively more intense descent, the sheer sense of adventure taking you so deep into the most ancient primal layers of the Earth, expressed through exploration and gameplay, is just really, really cool.
 
Nov 13, 2017
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If you don't mind gaming the mechanics a bit to minimize the chances of getting murdered by bad RNG, kill one of the things on the side, then quit and reload (you'll respawn right outside the fog gate, and killing these are permanent as it's a "puzzle boss"). Then do the other one, quit again, and then finally go straight ahead into the big hole that opens in the floor immediately in front of the boss.
Does this really work? :) I will try it. Thank you!
 

Orochinagis

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
3,548
I like how Dusk almost immediately figures how out you were the one that saved her and not Artorias, when you talk to her in the present.

Yeah , sadly Dusk reconsiders you werent the one who saved her since she doesnt know the chosen undead traveled to the past for the sake of continuity and you understand the Forest covenant is all made up by Alvina
 

N.47H.4N

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,098
Humanity (whether 'soft' in hollow form or 'hard' in human form) raises item droprate, to a maximum of 210 at with 10 humanity. It also raises defense and curse resistance up to a poin, though the increase isn't very big (50 defense at 99 humanity).

You also need to pay humanity if you want to kindle bonfires, which gives you more estus flasks.


Thank you,I didn't know that,I kindled the first bonfire and nothing happened,keptplaying and I was not understanding why I only respawn 5 Estus most of the time and sometimes 10, -.- I feel dumb now.
Also Dark Souls wiki:
•Any bonfire with a visible Firekeeper present restores 10 Estus Flasks by default (Firelink Shrine, Anor Londo, Daughter of Chaos, and Stone Dragon) -.-
 

HTupolev

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,440
And then, underneath it all, is the most primordial place of them all, as said in the intro about the "Age of the Ancients": a land of gray crags, arch trees, and everlasting dragons, manifested beautifully in Ash Lake.
Is Ash Lake actually the lowest point? Considering that the Witch of Izalith seems to have been the Witch of Izalith before the old world was laid to waste, and the way that the Demon Ruins shows tree roots rolling down onto the old structures from above, Lost Izalith feels just as low to me.

Of course, it's probably all somewhat interpretive, since the physical relationship between Ash Lake and Lordran is pretty whacky.
 

XrossExam

Member
Nov 1, 2017
1,906
darksouls_remastered_hxsf8.jpg


Boom!


The sense of scale in this game is really something else. It was so great standing atop Sen's Funhouse and looking at the Parish bell tower. In the Parish itself it looks like a skybox, but nope. See that fortress? You can climb it™.

In fact, you can even see the Duke's Archives from the church roof.

Love how big the scale is in this game, the way the world blends together is unlike any other game.
 

ClearMetal

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,328
the Netherlands
Thank you,I didn't know that,I kindled the first bonfire and nothing happened,keptplaying and I was not understanding why I only respawn 5 Estus most of the time and sometimes 10, -.- I feel dumb now.
Also Dark Souls wiki:
•Any bonfire with a visible Firekeeper present restores 10 Estus Flasks by default (Firelink Shrine, Anor Londo, Daughter of Chaos, and Stone Dragon) -.-
Also note you can initially kindle bonfires once but the Rite of Kindling (which you got from Pinwheel) enables you two kindle an additional two times for a total of twenty estus flasks. While each bonfire has to be kindled individually, this does carry over into NG+.

So I'm almost finished with the game and one of the last things I will do is go on a grand tour to all the bonfires and dump my remaining humanity in them. The Fair Lady can have the rest and after that it's time for the final boss.

For the time being, though, I'm going to farm for souls and titanite shards to get the unique boss equipment.

Yeah , sadly Dusk reconsiders you werent the one who saved her since she doesnt know the chosen undead traveled to the past for the sake of continuity and you understand the Forest covenant is all made up by Alvina
Eh, she reconsiders, but it sounds more like a half-hearted attempt to convince herself. Because surely the Chosen Undead couldn't have traveled back in time...