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Easy Allies |OT| The New Era
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Chim saga video will need at least this E3 to be a complete package.
I'm still processing this, so I'll probably over-react, but I think this news is kinda shitty coming right before E3. If one of the Allies isn't going to be there for half the conferences or even play any games, they could at least give us more notice.
I think Kyle mentioned it was a last minute thing. Him being part of the E3 Coliseum during the whole week
Let's be honest, he isn't just one of the Allies, he's the main draw. Missing one or two conferences would be shitty, but understandable. Missing Nintendo and no game impressions from him is a tough pill to swallow.
E3 hype somewhat deflated.
It's odd that they agree to this. I mean, it gets Easy Allies more exposure I imagine, but how much more really? In the long run? Did their numbers spike massively after last year's E3?
These past couple of months they've been going from strength to strength so to allow one of their main players to be loaned out to another team during the biggest week in gaming is baffling.
Maybe England can get on the phone to Portugal and ask to have a lend of Ronaldo just for the World Cup?
This news combined with Kyle's awful stream right now is ruining my hype. Whatever. He'll learn his lesson when he feels completely left out of everything during the nightly discussions.
Is Bosman fulltime now? If not, it makes sense he might have other obligations he needs to fulfill. It sucks, but it's something of a miracle everyone has stuck together for the most part and if him missing part of e3 is necessary to continue that, it's a small price to pay.
I'm a bit disappointed but at the end of the day, Kyle must have determined that this was best decision for him, so I can't begrudge him for that. Everyone has to make a living, and I assume that working with Keighley will be helpful to him both professionally and monetarily (esp. since Patreon split 9 ways isn't enough for a full-time salary).
The bright side, to me, is that he'll be there for most of the conferences, and for impressions, I trust all the Allies with those. Kyle's good at asking questions and getting people to elaborate on interesting points, so as long as he's there on stream for those I'll be happy.
And yeah, this troll game he's streaming sucks xp.
The bright side, to me, is that he'll be there for most of the conferences, and for impressions, I trust all the Allies with those. Kyle's good at asking questions and getting people to elaborate on interesting points, so as long as he's there on stream for those I'll be happy.
And yeah, this troll game he's streaming sucks xp.
It should have been disclosed earlier. Kyle hinted and teased it throughout the podcast but wouldn't just be upfront about it. There's no reason for that. It's not like we wouldn't notice. Brandon was clear in the podcast what press conferences he was going to be at and not. Same with blood.
He's always done stuff with Keighley at e3 but it's never been this intrusive. Especially because from the way Kyle describes it he's not even really on camera a lot. So it's not like last year where you saw him on other segments.
He's always done stuff with Keighley at e3 but it's never been this intrusive. Especially because from the way Kyle describes it he's not even really on camera a lot. So it's not like last year where you saw him on other segments.
I honestly think I'm more bummed FOR Kyle, taking a payday rather than getting to be a part of the conversation. Those panels might be cool, but I dunno; playing the games trumps people talking about them anyday. I do agree that Kyle probably didn't make the decision lightly, so whatever he has to do to get by. Hopefully Keighley lets him plug EZA. Always irked me that on Live with YouTube Gaming, he was never "Kyle Bosman of EZA." Brandon was, but not Kyle. Even just in the lower third would be nice.
And I know he wore the shirt last year, but is that enough? Not to me.
And I know he wore the shirt last year, but is that enough? Not to me.
That's a bit more understandable but still pretty shitty.
That's an over-statement. Kyle's one of the more prominent Allies and he brings something unique to the group (though they all do) but not irreplaceable. EZA's main draw to me is the dynamic between the entire group, not just one Ally. I have no doubt the EZA streams will still be a ton of fun and I probably won't even notice he's missing most of the time.
I do hope Brad mocks him for basically missing E3 though. Jones was MIA for most of last year too but at least he still went to E3 and played a ton of games, Kyle doesn't get to do any of that.
For me the fact that its last minute actually makes things worse. Hes blowing off his friends and us sonja can go do YouTube stuff which will mostly be behind the scenes stuff. It's a shitty thing to do. It's the equivalent of a retail employee taking a vacation during black Friday. I try not to sound entitled when it comes to this stuff but when it comes to E3 I expect all allies on deck. Jones was bad enough last year. They need to get there priorities strait imo. I understand that some allies need to work odd jobs to help make ends meet but doing odd job work during the biggest week of the year is snubbing the 7000+ people already paying him to talk about video games.
Hah, I'm kind of in shocked disbelief about this news. Like, what an unexpected heel turn by Keighley to take Kyle away last second for E3 for something he's not even advertised to be on depriving us/him of time on the show floor/press conferences.
Maybe i'm way off base here, but I struggle to see how a short-term stint for something he's almost assuredly isn't going to be an integral part of (on the other hand, he's hopefully getting paid more because why else would you do it) that likely takes eyes away EZA (his main job) during a crucial period makes much sense at all. If EZA supported this to bring publicity to the channel, that also doesn't make sense.
Whatever, love Kyle to death, but just another bonkers decision that I can't understand. Thank goodness there's 8 other awesome Allies, but just such an odd decision to kneecap themselves when they are building crazy amounts of momentum.
Maybe i'm way off base here, but I struggle to see how a short-term stint for something he's almost assuredly isn't going to be an integral part of (on the other hand, he's hopefully getting paid more because why else would you do it) that likely takes eyes away EZA (his main job) during a crucial period makes much sense at all. If EZA supported this to bring publicity to the channel, that also doesn't make sense.
Whatever, love Kyle to death, but just another bonkers decision that I can't understand. Thank goodness there's 8 other awesome Allies, but just such an odd decision to kneecap themselves when they are building crazy amounts of momentum.
I'm sorry but i just don't see that happening. This is coming off the huge donation drive and the surge in Patreon numbers. It wouldn't be Easy Allies without more blunders.
Yea puzzling decision there. This is the most important week of the year in terms of exposure and opportunities to reach new audiences. Of course, Kyle is not irreplaceable and I'm sure the other allies will bring their A game, but it's still a huge blow to their e3 coverage not having your most popular member.
I think you guys are being a bit dramatic. Be disappointed sure, but insinuating hes abandoning the group is stupid.
I want to keep venting my frustrations about this stuff but I can't do so without being mean. I'll just say this. Atleast when Jones wasn't going to be around much during E3 he had the tact to be upfront about it and not try to bury the news in a late night stream the day before E3 started. I dont care if he just found out. That means that he blew off his EZA obligations to go kick it with keighley and co. It's just such a selfish thing to do. Hes letting down his fans, people who are paying him money to talk about video games so that he can go get paid by someone else to do behind the scenes work? Wtf.
Backdoor shady deals for real. E3 week is the one week every ally should be dedicated to easy allies. It's not asking for much, and yes, before anyone asks, I was saying the same thing about Jones being absent for every press conference last year too. Like In said at the top though, atleast he owned it.
Backdoor shady deals for real. E3 week is the one week every ally should be dedicated to easy allies. It's not asking for much, and yes, before anyone asks, I was saying the same thing about Jones being absent for every press conference last year too. Like In said at the top though, atleast he owned it.
So..... i think the allies that are missing conference reactions are: Blood for EA and MS, Jones not there for Sony, MS and i think EA, Kyle not there most half of conferences, got it?
I understand Blood perfectly (duh), Jones too. BUt Kyle working for Geoff ? What benefits does EZA receive from this? With youtubers LIKE Boogie(defends racists and both sides w/ Nazis, Jake Paul Suicide Video that Boogie defended) or MatPat(transphobic jokes) Why not Pewdiepie, Jontron, Ali-A too and prepare BIG PARTY of asshole people? It's disgusting
I cant believe the patreons are just accepting Kyle just work with these "guys", and WORSE, lose half of the conferences.
This is SOOOO worse the other "case" BRandon & Colin. What benefits does patreons receive from this?
Sorry my friends, but i think this is awful. Kyle with a great podcast okay, but some of you always saying that he just failing to comment on various news stories that occur over the weeks(i agree), delays and more delays with Box Peak... Brandon is right: Kyle is A DIVA.
I understand Blood perfectly (duh), Jones too. BUt Kyle working for Geoff ? What benefits does EZA receive from this? With youtubers LIKE Boogie(defends racists and both sides w/ Nazis, Jake Paul Suicide Video that Boogie defended) or MatPat(transphobic jokes) Why not Pewdiepie, Jontron, Ali-A too and prepare BIG PARTY of asshole people? It's disgusting
I cant believe the patreons are just accepting Kyle just work with these "guys", and WORSE, lose half of the conferences.
This is SOOOO worse the other "case" BRandon & Colin. What benefits does patreons receive from this?
Sorry my friends, but i think this is awful. Kyle with a great podcast okay, but some of you always saying that he just failing to comment on various news stories that occur over the weeks(i agree), delays and more delays with Box Peak... Brandon is right: Kyle is A DIVA.
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To be clear, I'm at the Xbox conference in person because the showcase this year is directly afterwards, and in past years it's been the best place to play and capture Microsoft's games. I may also miss Bethesda since I'll still be there until around half an hour before Bethesda starts, but I'm going to try to make it back earlier if I can.
This is a bit sad for me too. It makes EZA look like just an alternate project, like the second best option for Kyle. Which it might be, but it certainly kills enthusiasm for those supporting the group hoping it will become successful.
Perhaps the idea is that by going away and getting notoriety he'll bring more people to EZA, but by canibalising viewers on the group show during the conference hardly feels productive to me. I hope he mentions EZA during his streams away, otherwise I really see this as a bit of a backstab, when he was needed the most.
Ultimately I just hope they stay together and don't start disbanding for bigger fish.
Perhaps the idea is that by going away and getting notoriety he'll bring more people to EZA, but by canibalising viewers on the group show during the conference hardly feels productive to me. I hope he mentions EZA during his streams away, otherwise I really see this as a bit of a backstab, when he was needed the most.
Ultimately I just hope they stay together and don't start disbanding for bigger fish.
Wow, this is a real bummer to hear. I expected him to be away at some point, but for Nintendo? That's really deflating. I'm not going to moan too much, as I want to stay excited, but this is for sure some disappointing news after the huge push and specific funding drive to get them stuff for E3 to make the content better.
Ok lets see this positively. There are 8 conferences, he's there for 5 of them. That's more then znough since there needs to be rotation at the table anyway. They'll be smart about putting him at the table for the 5.
No show floor gaming, we rarely ever see a vid of him on the show floor, so we will only lose his impressions of games. That doesnt mean he cannot lead a conversation ablut a game another Ally played. Kyle is great in asking questions to the other Allies mostly, he'll still be doing that.
No show floor gaming, we rarely ever see a vid of him on the show floor, so we will only lose his impressions of games. That doesnt mean he cannot lead a conversation ablut a game another Ally played. Kyle is great in asking questions to the other Allies mostly, he'll still be doing that.
While I agree that Kyle not being there for half of their e3 conferences is not a good move, I don't believe your take is fair at all.
First, Patreons are not EZA bosses. You support them financially so they can do whatever they want to do. Of course there can and should be suggestions and/or criticism but that doesn't mean patreons are entitled to make demands. If the allies are doing something that you don't "accept", then you should just remove your pledge. And there's nothing wrong with that.
Second, working with YouTube gaming doesn't mean Kyle and EZA are associating themselves with Boggie and Matpat just because these guys are getting interviewed in a isolated segment.
Finally, constructive criticism and feedback can be super userful, and I believe they are the best option to express one's frustration. Resorting to personal attacks like calling someone a diva however, helps nobody and has no place in an environment built around respect such as the one cultivated by eza and this community.
This.
Marco, you are kinda overreacting. There will be non stop streams and Kyle will be there for 5 conferences + most times in between the conferences. Also, EZA is not just Kyle. Noone is going crazy for Jones or Blood being absent for some conferences. There will be good rotation of all Allies. Dont worry and enjoy EZA. Love & Respect.
I guess I'd be more annoyed if it was anyone but Geoff, but since if it wasn't for Keighley, we might not even know who Bosman is, I'm fine with him supporting Geoff. I'd be grateful to the man who gave me my start too and it's not like he's dropped EZA stuff for anyone else ever.
FYI, I'm about to hop into bed and then go to the garage for EA, so I won't be replying to any responses, but from my perspective, this isn't anything out of the ordinary for us. Kyle has had these gigs with Geoff since we've started, and we've known for quite some time that he'd be working with him again this year. I think the "last minute" part may just be the exact role he's playing and the full schedule that he needs to be available. Don likewise has another job and can only take off one day to be on the show floor.
It will be absolutely fine without him on during those conferences, even if ethically it's a bit complex. Still just as excited to see the group react to it all. Good luck to everyone.
WHEN i am talked that patreon are bosses? WHEN? Im just comparing patreons and Geoff. To me patreons are more important that Geoff(my opinion), however the more important is, plz read again: What benefits does EZA receive from this? What benefits does patreons receive from this? Just fair questions.
Some patreons here questioned when Brandon and Collin happened( ok ok, let this thing to the past) but honestly i think its so weird at least.
And sorry but YOU did not get it a joke about "diva". This happened on Q&A recently when BRandon talked about Kyle, but some jokes have a little of truth sometimes...
SOrry again, but YOU ARE the only talking here about remove the pledge. YOU are the first. I dont need this "kind of action" "to say" a feedback. SO im doing fair questions,feedback and criticism.
Im a proud patreon since day one, i almost never do criticisms here(even when they deserve, cause i understand we "all mess up sometimes", we all need time to learning to do things going well), but at this time i think its fair. Huge push and specific funding drive to get them stuff for E3 to make the content better to just "vanish" and work for Geoff AND with these conditions?
If you can "accept" this, its ok to me. You can have a different opinion. Could i have other? Or Is the Love & Respect about only one specific opinion?
Sorry if i bothered you or Other people at this topic, with of my heart. I love Easy Allies, so i will I'll shut up so I will not bother you or other fellow about this conversation anymore. Sorry once more, cause i dont wanna receive a ban. I will See ALL the conferences with Easy Allies and again im proud be a patreon since day one. IF i had more conditions, i would like A LOT more money to them.
Love & Respect. IM almost sleeping on the keyboard.
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