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matrix-cat

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Oct 27, 2017
10,284
Straight up, if you don't think Devil Trigger is the hottest shit then you don't deserve this glorious game. What would Itsuno say if he saw you bozos behaving like this?
 

pixxelz

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Oct 30, 2017
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Man, this isn't what expected at all, I'm still cautiously optimistic about it but i can't help to be a little disappointed.
 

ZeoVGM

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Oct 25, 2017
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Providence, RI
But being sexy is part of the reason why this feels like "Cindy done right". No sexuality would be "done different", it wouldn't even make sense to bring her up.

The fact that Nico still goes for sexuality in her design but feels a lot more elegant and with clothes that actually fit her instead of just being there for the player makes a huge difference. I'm not a fan of Cindy's design at all, but I really like Nico, and I hate this trailer, so I'm not just liking everything here.

Now, if you just hate anything that doesn't look like what a mechanic in real life would wear, yeah, this design won't convince you.

Part of the problem in Cindy's design is that, to me, it's not actually sexy. It's obviously what they're going for, but it just looks like a girl with as little clothing as they could have her wearing. There's nothing in her personality or body language that sells that aspect of sexuality, it's literally just her clothes. Nico is very charismatic, she has a ton of personality and actually feels like a character. This helps a lot. I guess it's the difference between a sexualized character and a doll.

Take that fan redesign of Cindy that gets posted a lot, for example:

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No one would say this isn't a sexualized design, especially the one on the right, but it's still a lot more classy, and I would personally say a lot more sexy. It hints at character, and at agency. It looks less like someone who was dressed up by someone else, and more like someone who chose to dress sexy, and that's much more appealing.

This is nitpicking, to me. "A lot more classy."

I mean, ... kinda?
 
Oct 26, 2017
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As someone who didn't hate DmC, I'm personally hyped. I was kind of expecting DMC 5 to be one of those games that people want but never get made so I'm pretty happy to see another one. I just hope this one could at least come close to DMC 3 or even surpass it
 

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I can't believe i wasn't in the reveal!!!

NERO? fuck the haters :D
Hahaha, I was thinking that DMCERA who were betting on a Sony conference reveal missed out...

Man... seeing this live... as a huge fan in the series this is hands down the greatest E3 moment I have seen in my entire life. I was laughing like a lunatic there in my room.
 

Neoxon

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Oct 25, 2017
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Mik317

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't see how anyone thinks this looks like DmC....or too edgy. It has over the top antics, dumb ass one liners and protags no selling everything. This is DMC as hell. People are acting like the past games where cell shaded or something. DmC was grungy as hell, lots of swearing and full of political commentary. This trailer featured our heroes flying the down the street while hell breaks loose, not giving a single fuck, before styling in an over the top manner as they kill demons. Like what is even.

I get preferring a less realistic look but engine changes and more mocap (including face mocap...look up Reuben Langdon and see how much Uncle Dante looks like him) comes with the territory.

This isn't too edgy or too westernized (wtf)...again I get preferring different ascetics but holy shit...
 

Neoxon

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't see how anyone thinks this looks like DmC....or too edgy. It has over the top antics, dumb ass one liners and protags no selling everything. This is DMC as hell. People are acting like the past games where cell shaded or something. DmC was grungy as hell, lots of swearing and full of political commentary. This trailer featured our heroes flying the down the street while hell breaks loose, not giving a single fuck, before styling in an over the top manner as they kill demons. Like what is even.

I get preferring a less realistic look but engine changes and more mocap (including face mocap...look up Reuben Langdon and see how much Uncle Dante looks like him) comes with the territory.

This isn't too edgy or too westernized (wtf)...again I get preferring different ascetics but holy shit...
I mentioned this on Discord & possibly here. Dante definitely looks more like Reuben Langdon now (probably thanks to the RE Engine's facial mo-cap).
 

THErest

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Oct 25, 2017
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I am so giddy.

How are people down on this? Like, all I see is a haircut. Whoop-de-fuckin-doo.

Let's fucking goooooooo!
 

Zimmiwood

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Oct 25, 2017
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Do you think that SF6 is going with photorealistic visuals? They had that in mind with SF5 but I'd rather it look like GGXrd/DBFZ with pseudo 3d sprites.
I thought about this too and kinda dreaded the idea of them going photorealism with SF, but I can see it happening.
They already set a precedence with MVCI.
 

Slaythe

The Wise Ones
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Oct 25, 2017
15,870
Also it's fucked up that there isn't a single playable female character after Trish and Lady.

You bet your ass they're gonna be DLC. >_>
 

T-Min

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May 23, 2018
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DMC1 had a very different focus compared to 3/4 and Bayonetta, the first game placing more emphasis on learning the large number of ways the enemies could engage the player and the tactics involved in fighting them beyond just styling on them. In terms of enemy design and atmosphere, DMC1 remains the one to beat.
Yeah, now that you mention it, I can definitely see that. I guess the slower pace of the approach just doesn't resonate with me as much. If they could find a way to combine intricate enemy design with the faster-paced gameplay of DMC3, though, that would be rad. I'll agree that DMC1 has the best atmosphere, though.

It's because of the subjectively less appealing realistic character art style/designs, not the environment art. I actually kind of liked DmC's environment art.
I can echo this. Wasn't too hot on DmC's character design (to say nothing of the actual characterization, ugh), but I actually really liked the wacky, surreal environments. DMC5 feels like it's going for sort of a middle ground between DmC and the original series. I'm not super hot on Dante (though I can get over it), but I actually like Nero and the others.
 

Neoxon

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Feb 19, 2018
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This got me pretty hyped, how's the series on PC? I remember there being some weird issues at launch for some of them.

Don't get the old DMC3 on PC, it's one of the worst PC ports ever. Get the HD Collection instead.

DMC4 is a great PC port and the Special Edition released in 2015 which is a soft remaster and has a ton of new content, and the very best Hack n'slay combat in existence.

If you just want to get ready for DMC5, play DMC3 followed by DMC4 and you will have everything story and character wise that you need. DMC3 as a prequel comes canonically first too, so you can still play DMC1 afterwards anyway
 

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And now it all makes sense. If nothing else, Vergil's probably gonna look great if they continue that trend by using Dan Southworth's face as reference.




Wait, scratch that. Though I guess it makes sense for Dante since he's closer to Langdon's age.
Nah, you could tell that Dante is based on Reuben in this game and since they're twins Vergil should pretty much look %100 identical.
 

Noctis

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't see how anyone thinks this looks like DmC....or too edgy. It has over the top antics, dumb ass one liners and protags no selling everything. This is DMC as hell. People are acting like the past games where cell shaded or something. DmC was grungy as hell, lots of swearing and full of political commentary. This trailer featured our heroes flying the down the street while hell breaks loose, not giving a single fuck, before styling in an over the top manner as they kill demons. Like what is even.

I get preferring a less realistic look but engine changes and more mocap (including face mocap...look up Reuben Langdon and see how much Uncle Dante looks like him) comes with the territory.

This isn't too edgy or too westernized (wtf)...again I get preferring different ascetics but holy shit...
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Crossing Eden

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Oct 26, 2017
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And now it all makes sense. If nothing else, Vergil's probably gonna look great if they continue that trend by using Dan Southworth's face as reference.




Wait, scratch that. Though I guess it makes sense for Dante since he's closer to Langdon's age.
Like with RE7 the models they use for scanning are different people than the actors who do the performance capture.