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Squarehard

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Oct 27, 2017
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Update 6/27/18: Confirmed today the show has been renewed for a second season.

Basically just a new season of Kitchen Nightmares, but with much less time to turn the restaurant around.

Episodes air on Fox at 8PM/9c every Wednesday.

I know one person who is ecstatic for this premier.
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RedMercury

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Dec 24, 2017
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I think the gimmick was dumb on Restaurant Impossible and it's dumb here. Don't set artificial restrictions on helping a restaurant, do it right or don't do it. Especially when it's totally arbitrary, it's not *really* 24 hours.

Another season of Hotel Hell pls
 

Dullahan

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Oct 25, 2017
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I absolutely adore Kitchen Nightmares, so I can't wait for this!
 

Deleted member 8561

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Can't wait to see a bunch of idiots trying to run a restaurant get a complete interior/exterior renovation and reworked menu of the most braindead recipes so they can close down three months later!

The concept is pretty stupid, you can't fix shit in a single day. Either (gasp) this takes place on a longer time scale or literally nothing is going to get fixed.
 

halcali

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Nov 7, 2017
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I wish he'd go back to doing British TV, because the Americans are just... way too dumb.

The stupidity gets really old after awhile, especially when it's constant
 

Gaius Cassius

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Oct 28, 2017
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But like, how is this any different than Kitchen Nightmares? He didn't have much time to fix those restaurants either. Kinda wish it was just a new season of that, but with this twist. Say what you will about US kitchen nightmares, but the UK version outside of crazy cat lady ep on US, were superior.
 

ty_hot

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Dec 14, 2017
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Can't wait to see a bunch of idiots trying to run a restaurant get a complete interior/exterior renovation and reworked menu of the most braindead recipes so they can close down three months later!

The concept is pretty stupid, you can't fix shit in a single day. Either (gasp) this takes place on a longer time scale or literally nothing is going to get fixed.

I like reading reviews of the restaurants they "save", months after. Most of them are closed, some were sold to someone else and very few actually succeed with the same owner/chef.

What amazes me is that 80% of the changes he proposes are things that I or anyone that is not a complete idiot would say.

One thing I learned watching this show is to never eat in places that have a menu that offers a variety of food that clearly can't fit in their kitchen (like a small restaurant where you can order pizza, burger, kebab, tapas, fish, beef, sandwiches...). Things wont be fresh (or worse, they can be rotten)...
 

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I hate this stupid gimmick. I've watched a lot of KN and this the anti-thesis of everything he pretends to be and tries to teach them, at least according to how he conducts himself. I know it's a show, but in the UK version (and plenty of US eps) he at least comes across as genuine, as someone who connects with people and wants to reignite a passion for their business by giving them a boost and an upgrade.

This is just faux drama and literal papering over the cracks where most if not all people signed up to eventually sell whatever new shit he put in their locales.
 

Spaghetti

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Dec 2, 2017
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*kitchen nightmares noise*

But yeah, echoing sentiments about UK Kitchen Nightmares V US Kitchen Nightmares. UK version is a much better programme - almost documentary in format, US version is fun but formulaic "reality" schlock.

If this is more of the same with a gimmick... may as well have brought back Kitchen Nightmares for real. I remember seeing a video where Ramsay said he didn't want to do KN anymore because of the havoc the bad food played with his digestion, so I figure this might be a money-motivated decision more than anything.
 

Lonewolf

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Please, like anyone watched Kitchen Nightmares for anything other than Ramsey taste testing awful food, meeting idiots to yell at, and maybe looking at a walk in freezer that looks like it was hit by a bomb. He's about the last person I'd want to see in a more documentary format KN from again too, he's got his shtick and he's good at it, it'd be like watching The Three Stooges doing a serious take on William Shakespeare's Macbeth or New Jack wrestling a catch-as-catch-can match. Sure they could do it, but why though?
 

CommodoreKong

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Oct 25, 2017
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I missed Kitchen Nightmares (thankfully Hotel Impossible and The Profit fills the void even though they aren't about restaurants), I'm looking forward to this show returning.
 

SolidSnakex

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Oct 25, 2017
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Can't wait to see a bunch of idiots trying to run a restaurant get a complete interior/exterior renovation and reworked menu of the most braindead recipes so they can close down three months later!

The concept is pretty stupid, you can't fix shit in a single day. Either (gasp) this takes place on a longer time scale or literally nothing is going to get fixed.

To be honest, there are certain restaurants he goes to that i'd never set foot in even after he "fixed" them. If he shows a kitchen or a freezer that's very unsanitary, then why would you ever trust that owner or chef when it comes to food? They had to allow it to get into that condition in the first place, so who's to say they won't do it again? Now there are other restaurants where the issue is more that the chef just isn't motivated anymore or that the food is just bad. Those are things that can be fixed while not putting your health in danger if they aren't.
 
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I was cast to go to one of the relaunch nights on the first or second season of Kitchen Nightmares. The food was terrible and took about an hour and a half to arrive. At least we didn't have to pay for the meal.
 

oddjobs

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Oct 27, 2017
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For anyone yearning for the UK-style Ramsay, he appeared on Masterchef Australia* recently for a few episodes. It was awesome compared to the overly dramatic stupidity in any of his US shows.

*aka probably the best cooking show
 

Mariachi507

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Oct 26, 2017
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Most of the kitchen nightmares restaurants closed down after he left, and now he's going to fix them in a 24 hour time frame?

Yeah right.

Nobody cares about that anyway with the American version, give me some laughs Gordon, expose these disgusting slobs.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Once people sour on a restaurant, they don't come back. These shows are good for generating very short-term hype business, but after the initial pop, they're dead in the water
 

RaySpencer

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Oct 27, 2017
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Gordan Ramsey is fucking amazing, but every show they make with him in America is fucking trash.

His UK shows are a million times better.
 
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Squarehard

Squarehard

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Oct 27, 2017
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Gordan Ramsey is fucking amazing, but every show they make with him in America is fucking trash.

His UK shows are a million times better.
The US show has always been for the drama, while the UK show was more about the restaurant business.

Certainly a much different vibe between the two, but I enjoy them both.

The UK one of course more so, but the US ones aren't terrible, but a lot more of the episodes are meh in comparison.
 

halcali

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Never ever forget the very first Kitchen Nightmares (UK) episode, where the lady who owned the restaurant never even visited her own kitchen to see what was ACTUALLY happening down there. lol

I still laugh about it today.
 

DrScruffleton

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Oct 26, 2017
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Im surprised kitchen nightmares didnt come back. It has gotten a massive resurgence on youtube. I see clips on there all the time, and they often run 24 hour streams that have thousands of people in them anytime I check in.
 

hitme

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Oct 26, 2017
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Hell's Kitchen (US) and Masterchef are fine for what they are.

I also prefer the UK version of Kitchen Nightmares, but this... I'll give a try.
 

B-Dubs

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Oct 25, 2017
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I like reading reviews of the restaurants they "save", months after. Most of them are closed, some were sold to someone else and very few actually succeed with the same owner/chef.

What amazes me is that 80% of the changes he proposes are things that I or anyone that is not a complete idiot would say.

One thing I learned watching this show is to never eat in places that have a menu that offers a variety of food that clearly can't fit in their kitchen (like a small restaurant where you can order pizza, burger, kebab, tapas, fish, beef, sandwiches...). Things wont be fresh (or worse, they can be rotten)...
Part of why they generally close is that by the time he gets there all these places are too far gone. The bad reputation is already in place and the owners are likely under a mountain of debt and that doesn't leave enough time to repair said bad reputation. While the advice given is obviously good, it's being given far too late in the process.
 

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Honestly... There were definitely times where Ramsay's emotions were absolutely genuine in Kitchen Nightmare's US version (at least his food reviews before the rest of the episode is usually genuine). I absolutely believe everything in Amy's Baking Company episode was absolutely genuine though, because I had seen his reactions that seemed more... realistic than most of the stuff in the other episodes. He honestly felt extremely flustered, and you got to see, what I'd call, a calm angry, something I don't really see on the other episodes.

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Part of why they generally close is that by the time he gets there all these places are too far gone. The bad reputation is already in place and the owners are likely under a mountain of debt and that doesn't leave enough time to repair said bad reputation. While the advice given is obviously good, it's being given far too late in the process.

There was one case where I know the owners and everything were in good shape, but they felt it was time to move away from the business and retire. They got a couple more years or so out of it. If I recall, the particular owners were a lot older for the one I'm thinking of, so that is also a thing, especially if they don't have a successor to really run the restaurant.

But yeah, this absolutely largely had to do with a lot of the closures.
 

CommodoreKong

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Most of the kitchen nightmares restaurants closed down after he left, and now he's going to fix them in a 24 hour time frame?

Yeah right.

Nobody cares about that anyway with the American version, give me some laughs Gordon, expose these disgusting slobs.

Most of the restaurants he visited in Kitchen Nightmares had massive amount of debit (sometimes in the hundreds of thousands of dollars). Even with good advice and changes from Gordon most places just aren't going to last long being that far in the hole.
 

Frozenprince

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Oct 25, 2017
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So it's Gordon Ramsay does the first (and only good) seasons of Restaurant Impossible but with even less time and even more yelling.

Eh, prefer if this were a week and he could he more like his UK shows but I guess this is what sells him here.
 

Spaghetti

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Dec 2, 2017
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Hell's Kitchen and The F Word were better in their UK iterations too, IMO. I used to stay up late(ish) to watch The F Word when it was first on Channel 4, and I couldn't give a fuck about food or cooking. Was pretty captivating all the same.
 

SuperBanana

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Oct 28, 2017
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I love some Ramsay but man I wish the production company would tone down the drama. The UK versions are great. The US versions hype the drama up to a ridiculous point. I feel like this will go the same direction.
 

Woolley

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Oct 25, 2017
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This seems dumb. The worst part about these restaurants are how bad the owners are so redueing the restaurant to look better and changing the menu in a few hours isn't going to change that.
 

RaySpencer

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Oct 27, 2017
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The US show has always been for the drama, while the UK show was more about the restaurant business.

Certainly a much different vibe between the two, but I enjoy them both.

The UK one of course more so, but the US ones aren't terrible, but a lot more of the episodes are meh in comparison.

I enjoyed his US shows for a bit, but then it got old and I missed normal Ramsey. Haha
 

Z-Beat

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Oct 25, 2017
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So this is Kitchen Nightmares with a 24 timer? I don't really see a point. Even with the several days afforded through standard Kitchen Nightmares, a lot of these restaurants ended up closing anyway because they couldn't maintain the standards or it was already too late to save them.

A mouse in the damn toaster? Shouldn't that thing be burnt to hell if they've used that toaster even once unless that mouse just showed up that day?
 

Slayven

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Oct 25, 2017
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People talk about Amy's backing Company, but if you want to read some crazy and depressing shit, read the story behind "Burger Kitchen". The place was started with Australian Mob money.
 

flkRaven

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Oct 25, 2017
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I love Gordon Ramsay. He obviously overplays his asshole character (like Simon Cowell), but he is genuinely entertaining and very smart about food. That said, I find it difficult to watch these programs now. The reason being that I never watch these shows live, and typically watch episodes that are a year or two old. Whenever I google the location to see how it's doing, 99% of the time they are either closed down or sold and largely considered failures who did not adhere to the changes. I know that reality TV is fake, but I can't even enjoy the results anymore knowing that it will ultimately result in failure. There is a reason why these hotels and restaurants got to this state to begin with. They may as well have Nathan Fielder help them out.