And how does that compare to call of duty, battlefield, red dead etc?
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Nintendo stock down almost 7% after the E3 showcase (down another 5.27% per Tokyo Stock Exchange)
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And how does that compare to call of duty, battlefield, red dead etc?
ItsI not about taste but about sales though. And in that category neither Smash nor Pokemon are going to touch CoD or RDR2.
Less than them, but not so much less that you wouldn't consider Smash an "actual heavy hitter" compared to them.
So much less that I still think calling it one of the biggest games of the year is a bit of an exaggeration.
Some users on here post Yen values for some reason, but I would forget trading on the Tokyo Stock Exchange, AFAIK you need to buy a minimum of 100 shares, which are now valued at 530 euro, so with brokerage fees you would have to drop a cool 54kEuro (and trading volume is generally so low that you may have to wait a bit, though not right now with the enormous sell off lol). Your best bet is Frankfurt (FRA: NTO). Unless you want to make this your retirement and big volume trading comes into play, I would just find the stock broker that has a good app and the lowest transaction fees. I'm not French, but I use https://www.degiro.fr/ and I doubt you'll find one that's much cheaper.
(edit: apparently they won cheapest broker in France in 2017 too, so yeah)
Them being ports doesnt change the quality of the games. Equating them to dumpster lineup.
Nope not at all. It's definitely ONE of the biggest games of this year, if not the biggest.
It's not the best I'm afraid. Taking out the late ports and remakes we're left with.
Edit: Smash Bros: Ultimate
Pokemon Lets GO Pikachu
Pokemon Lets GO Eevee
Super Mario Party
Overcooked 2
Mario Tennis Aces
Octopath Traveler
Mega Man 11
Starlink: Battle for Atlas
FIFA 19
The first party lineup here is fine but the third party original content and content launching beside the other consoles versions is not great. This also has to last 6 months.
Edit: Also I'm not including Pokemon as a remake even though it kinda is.
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Who cares? Do you think internally they are aiming for that audience, demograohic, or even have projections to compete with those titles? Answer? No freaking way. Some of you act like Nintendo or any company really takes uncalculated risks of this magnitude. They don't. Sometimes they fail sure but what some people in this thread know about market speculation I could fit in a thimble. Which is fine because it is a profession but its when people speak like they are an authority and then spout drivel I can't take it
Let's count Pokemon Let's Go as one entry, then the first 4 games on this list are no ports. Neither are the DLC for Xenoblade and Splatoon, nor are Starlink, Octopath and Mega Man 11. Fifa 19 is also a new game.
Or do we now count new multiplatform releases like Fifa 19 or Starlink as ports?
I mean Pokémon is bigger than Star Wars
But sure, it'll not touch those
Smash is new... It's not a port or a remake
So I guess we should also take FFVII remake out from Sony's list.
I guess that E3 Sony event that people called "event of dreams" (or something like that) where they announced FFVIIR (a remake) and Shenmue 3 (a sequel to a not very successful franchise) was actually a bad event? :-)
That's really nothing to brag about these days. Star Wars hasn't been really big since the original trilogy really. Lucas and Disney have completely ruined it.
your options don't change that star wars is still massive and one of most well known and profitable ips
In terms of quality, that's subjective.
In terms of revenue, it's not. In 2015, when Force Awakens came out, Pokémon still made more money than Star Wars. That's a year that had no main game, nothing special happening at all. Take from that how you will
My options? I saw New Hope in the theater the day it came out back in the 70s. It didn't even have an episode number in the opening. I've seen the franchise rise and fall. Disney put the final nail in the coffin when they completely wiped away the extended universe. Solo is proof of that,
Hmm I think you're deflecting a little bit here. I didn't mention Sony at all, I'm only talking about the Switch here and I am more comparing this list to even past Nintendo years and past Nintendo systems rather than the competition which I don't think it's fair to compare it to at this point in time.
Expecting Nintendo to have Third party on the level of MS and Sony isn't happening.
You uh, got a source on that one? The force awakens film alone made over a billion dollars just in the twelve days it had in cinema in 2015, and the money from star wars licensing is a ridiculous. Presuming the wiki numbers are right, pokemon "only" made 2.1billion USD in 2015, and while disney keep licensing numbers close to their chest, they made about $52.5 billion from llicensed merchandise in 2015, and it's very easy to imagine they made more than 2% of that from star wars.
I'm not trying to say you're wrong, just I didn't realise how all encompassing the pokemon brand still was even before GO.
dude, that doesn't change how popular star wars is but this is getting off topic so i will leave it there
I really don't get how the nintendo is doomed rhetoric can start again when they have pokemon and smash this year. That's two of their biggest franchises.
I am annoyed with their stubborness though. If they had just shown a little bit of metroid, a little bit of Yoshi, and just a logo tease for something new (like this supposed star fox game), everyone would be saying they won E3
Oh and not spending 25 mins on the minutia of smash
I am annoyed with their stubborness though. If they had just shown a little bit of metroid, a little bit of Yoshi, and just a logo tease for something new (like this supposed star fox game), everyone would be saying they won E3
Oh and not spending 25 mins on the minutia of smash
I count 12 ports, 8 actual new games (not going into their actual quality) and 2 DLC packages (which is just insane that some people are listing DLC as "games"). So uh... yeah they are?
There are 10 ports on that list, not 12 (not going into their actual quality)
Even if you count them in a weird way, this is arguing about a completely trivial matter. That's a lot of old content, and using DLC to bulk up the list is not a good look.
Except for the tiny interaction of falling stock price due to investors thinking Nintendo won't make its sales forecasts.
I agree that arguing about that list is dumb. My points is that the line-up for the second half is not as bad as some people are making out to be. It's not great, that's for sure, but it's far from being a "dumpster". But different views and all that.
Wii U 2? Hell no
That sucked. Got more fun in year 1 with switch than ever had with wii u
Super Smash Bros. for Wii U: 5.340.000
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS: 9.240.000
Total: 14.580.000
Pokemon X/Y: 16.290.000
Pokemon Sun/Moon: 16.100.000
Pokemon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire: 14.060.000
I'd argue these are enough potential sales for a single platform.
So what did you enjoy then?
BOTW = Wii U game
Mario Kart 8 = Wii U game
Splatoon 2 = sequel to Wii U game
It has been a Wii U port machine, so what are you enjoying that you didn't enjoy on Wii U?
RDR2? Dude lol, Pokemon is way bigger than RDR2 lol
Edit: At least in the RDR era it was. With the amazing popularity of GTAV dunno how well it is going to sell.
There's no denying it, WiiU owners got screwed, but the rest of us enjoying the Switch for many reasons, WiiU ports notwithstanding.
We should remember that investors wants them to invest more into mobiles. With that perspective, it makes sense that happened.
There is a very huge gap to what the Switch is compared to the Wii U. From your own admittance, though, that will be even more obvious in 2019.
not surprising at all, really
I see the stock market was as disappointed as I was that there wasn't a new Kid Icarus game.
I see the stock market was as disappointed as I was that there wasn't a new Kid Icarus game.
The negativity has gone into overdrive, the Switch has already surpassed the WiiU in every way and a stock change isn't going to alter that fact.
The Switch is flying right now, the portability alone is making it a selling machine, couple that with 1st party droughts being filled with Indie titles and a dose of 3rd party offerings and you could argue this is the most well-paced and consistent machine that Nintendo has put out in a long time.
I don't get it. I have over 20 games on my watch list (that grows every week) and around 3-4 games on the go right now and I can't keep up, and given that this is my only console right now I don't understand the bitching.
The Switch is flying right now, the portability alone is making it a selling machine, couple that with 1st party droughts being filled with Indie titles and a dose of 3rd party offerings and you could argue this is the most well-paced and consistent machine that Nintendo has put out in a long time.
I don't get it. I have over 20 games on my watch list (that grows every week) and around 3-4 games on the go right now and I can't keep up, and given that this is my only console right now I don't understand the bitching.
Well, that's you. I barely have 10 games for my Switch and nothing coming out is really wowing me. Not everyone is like you.
Red Dead shipped around 15 ML so is not that far away from Pokemon figures.
You're talking about single platforms and yet Nintendo needed 2 for Smash to get to 15 million.
And regarding Pokémon, the Switch is much more expensive than the 3DS, it has a smaller install base than the 3DS when the first Pokémon released and it isn't even a full fledged Pokémon on top of that. The numbers of this years Pokémon won't be close to those listed above.
Compare that to RDR2 which is very likely to blow easily past 20 or 30 million and CoD which does these numbers every year.
Mario Oddesy for starters
Yeah there have been ports but I got more from those on switch.
Not sure why Splatoon 2 being a sequel to a wii u game is seen as negative?
Throw in the indie games and third party games and you get a platform not remotely close to Wii U
Likewise, everyone is different, sure, but the point I'm making is that there is plenty to be had on the system, if you can't find enough on there then I'm guessing reasons could be:
- You have another console and already have a lot of the games on there
- You bought the Switch for 1st party titles only
- You just don't like what's on there
As someone that doesn't give a fuck to Smash Bros, how do you guys define if a new game is port or sequel? Aside graphics they look the same to me since 64 haha it's almost like people suddenly says it's a port just to have an argument, despite game being made in a completely new engine.
And how the hell people are bring RDR2 to the discussion? It begun as "Stock down because direct was bad and magically the certain 20m fiscal year is suddenly impossible" and just escalated to "Switch is doa without super big 3rd party stuff as if people were expecting any".
Meanwhile, stockholders are pissed about no news of next smartphone cashgrab lmao
And how the hell people are bring RDR2 to the discussion? It begun as "Stock down because direct was bad and magically the certain 20m fiscal year is suddenly impossible" and just escalated to "Switch is doa without super big 3rd party stuff as if people were expecting any".
Meanwhile, stockholders are pissed about no news of next smartphone cashgrab lmao
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