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Oct 25, 2017
811
Orange County
Ah, now I see it.
Ew.

No, put it in the bottom right corner.

This guy gets it. If they can do top right, just go bottom right. Easy to do one handed

The bar Looks bad. The issue isn't really discoverabilty, it's that the control center is even there at all. I guess one possible reason they put it at the top is to have it seem more natural when pulling down pulls down the top clock, battery indicator, etc.
 

gamma

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
357
I feel like 3D Touch from the side would be a good way to get to CC. Using my 6S for the few days between 10.1 and the X coming out, the improved 3D multitasking gesture worked way more reliably.
 

eyeball_kid

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,249
Ugh. That bar is just insult to injury. Just make the CC a damn double tap on the Home Indicator. I suggested it, I saw someone else here mention it, and Gruber just suggested it on his podcast. Double tap, Apple. Do it.
 

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Oct 26, 2017
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Looks like 11.2 is the update that enables 7.5W wireless charging if you have a compatible base. So far the publicly known ones are the two that Apple sell (Mophie and Belkin) and a RAVPower one (which I just bought off Amazon, so thank god for that)
 

Dreamwriter

Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,461
Sheesh, they really hid the auto-brightness option. I had my phone since launch day, didn't find it until just now, though I really hate auto brightness. I had just assumed they forced brightness changes as part of Tru Tone. Now to find it in Apple Watch...

Ugh. That bar is just insult to injury. Just make the CC a damn double tap on the Home Indicator. I suggested it, I saw someone else here mention it, and Gruber just suggested it on his podcast. Double tap, Apple. Do it.
Wouldn't that screw with all apps with buttons at the bottom of the screen? Very few apps would have a swipe up or down down there, but I could see lots of apps with reasons to tap the bottom.
 

//ARCANUM

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,404
Is there no way to retry Face ID? Can't seem to trigger it again once the password input appears.

Lack of confidence padawan, don't give up so easy :P

I think AJx mentioned haptics on keyboard presses but im not noticing any besides when you force touch for scrolling.

It's actually better to just enter the passcode. This tells the phone that that WAS your face, and it learns to be more accepting of your face. The phone learns more about you and starts accepting your face more easily. But if you cancel out and try again, it doesn't learn anything. It sounds weird but it really works. My phone accepts my face like 99% of the time now.
 

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Oct 26, 2017
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Sheesh, they really hid the auto-brightness option. I had my phone since launch day, didn't find it until just now, though I really hate auto brightness. I had just assumed they forced brightness changes as part of Tru Tone. Now to find it in Apple Watch...


Wouldn't that screw with all apps with buttons at the bottom of the screen? Very few apps would have a swipe up or down down there, but I could see lots of apps with reasons to tap the bottom.

Apple Watch has contextual auto-brightness that stays within whatever you set the brightness to, but cannot be turned off
 
Oct 25, 2017
13,142
I can't justify spending more than $20 on any of these wireless chargers. Maybe when they're like fully wireless I'll shell out the coins.
 

eyeball_kid

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,249
Wouldn't that screw with all apps with buttons at the bottom of the screen? Very few apps would have a swipe up or down down there, but I could see lots of apps with reasons to tap the bottom.

You can have scrolling content there, but nav elements aren't encouraged in that area. I don't really see a big negative in reserving taps in that 50ish point vertical area for the home indicator.
 

SeanM

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,434
USA
Ah thank you both! Did they change where auto-lock was located? I looked through any section I thought might have it and of course i missed it. That is hugely helpful.

I believe it was always located there, it just had a sensible default (2 minutes) that never needed changing. This new 30 second default for auto-lock is overly aggressive, a lot of people are going to have the display shut off on them in the middle of reading articles unless they start tapping or swiping the screen.

To add to dallow_bg's useful tip on searching settings, you can also use Siri to do the same from anywhere in the OS. Tell Siri "Open Display settings" or "Change wallpaper" etc. This even works for app-specific settings: for example if you wanted to turn off notifications for Instagram you could just tell Siri "Go to Instagram settings".
 

roflwaffles

Member
Oct 30, 2017
4,138
Whats the battery life looking like? Coming from big phones, the battery is the smaller battery is gonna be a big issue for me.

I get about 4 hours SOT and 14-15 hours total on my Note.
 
Oct 25, 2017
19,119
It's actually better to just enter the passcode. This tells the phone that that WAS your face, and it learns to be more accepting of your face. The phone learns more about you and starts accepting your face more easily. But if you cancel out and try again, it doesn't learn anything. It sounds weird but it really works. My phone accepts my face like 99% of the time now.
Whoa what

Is this actually true?
 
Oct 25, 2017
19,119
If we're voting on where to move Control Center, I nominate dragging up and to the left. Plenty of "space" over there to house CC.


Yep.
Yep! I read about it here in this thread earlier and started doing it and sure enough it worked.
Well damn, I've had the passcode prompt come up like 25 times already since I got it from false reads. Actually entering the code will hopefully reduce this haha.
 

Deleted member 9330

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Whats the battery life looking like? Coming from big phones, the battery is the smaller battery is gonna be a big issue for me.

I get about 4 hours SOT and 14-15 hours total on my Note.

Is that 100%-0%? I'll be spending the entirety of my day out of the house tomorrow, we'll see what my numbers look like

Whoa what

Is this actually true?

Completely true. It's how I got my Face ID to just about 100% reliable
 

jts

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Oct 26, 2017
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I'm getting one of these. Yeah it's an ancient slow one but it's cute and I can find it at a good price so meh. To the bedside table it goes.
 

eyeball_kid

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Oct 25, 2017
10,249
Except for the tens of thousands of apps already on the market that already use the bottom of the screen.

Apps that haven't updated to support the X don't even go down into the Home Indicator area, so it wouldn't conflict with them at all. Apps that do update will need to account for the indicator. Auto Layout has a new safeAreaInsets property in iOS 11. The bottom inset for this property puts content attached to it above the Home Indicator. Basically, aside from scrolling content or fullscreen content like videos, devs shouldn't be putting any UI elements down there.

As stated in the X design guidelines:
When designing for iPhone X, you must ensure that layouts fill the screen and aren't obscured by the device's rounded corners, its sensor housing, or the indicator for accessing the Home screen.
...
In general, content should be centered and symmetrically inset so it looks great in any orientation and isn't clipped by corners or the device's sensor housing, or obscured by the indicator for accessing the Home screen.
 

Ryu_Ken

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Oct 30, 2017
1,783
I really want a wireless charger, but I hear a lot of them require specific placement on the mat/platform.. that seems like a dealbreaker to me.
I don't find it much of an issue. I have a coaster like charger and I just plonk the phone in the middle and it's charging, doesn't have to be exact either.
 

Mario's Nipples

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Nov 2, 2017
856
France
I just bought the Spiegen slim fit case and a RAVPower wireless charger for the grand total of £25. Both seem to be getting rave reviews.
 

Señor Craig

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Nov 13, 2017
28
I just got pushed an article about the Tozo ultra thin case and PITAKA Magcase. Does anyone have these cases that can offer an opinion?
 

MrKlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
33,083
Watched Star Trek on my phone last night. Can't tell if Netflix is serving me HDR but it looked great. They also have what seems like an odd zoom - the default had small black bars top and bottom, but it seemed to be slightly zoomed in - didn't have big side pillars. Not sure how they're displaying content because they didn't zoom to exactly fit the top/bottom black bars, which they could have without touching the notch. I watched it fully zoomed in so I lost a little off the top and bottom but not much and it looked really nice.
 
Oct 25, 2017
11,584
Man the multi select home screen icon thing in ios 11 is really hard to do lol. Makes more sense with a mouse and not with my fat fingers.
 

Vuze

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,186
How exactly is AirPower going to work with an Apple Watch with a Milanese loop?
Been wondering the same just yesterday while shopping for the link bracelet tbh. Perhaps it doesn't need direct contact, iPhones charge through certain cases as well. Then again, metal. I guess we'll see.
 

Ambient80

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
4,631
Wow Best Buy made me so happy. Phone was scheduled to come in on Nov. 30. Instead, it came in yesterday! Still getting all my stuff set up and logged in, etc. I love it so far. This screen is just incredible.
 

Voidance

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Oct 27, 2017
674
My phone is stuck in USPS limbo. It's been in transit for 3 days now with no rescheduled delivery date, so who knows when the hell it will show up. It's now a race between this phone (purchased from Swappa) and my Apple order due Dec. 6 - 13, sadly. I wish I could return my Swappa phone when it arrives on the basis that the seller was a bonehead to send it USPS during the holiday season.
 

nexus

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Oct 25, 2017
3,655
Anyone having some wifi issues? I feel like it hasn't been as stable as my 7+. I was 5 ft from my router and the signal strength was bouncing from between 1 and 3 bars. I'm not sure if it's that or it was bouncing to my 5 ghz connection.
 

deoee

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Oct 25, 2017
454
Just got moved up by a week to 28.11 - 5.12

Guess I'll have it next week if everything goes smooth?
 

The Grizz

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Oct 27, 2017
2,457
Any old iPhone users not sold by their new x?

I'm going back to android but I can't imagine iphone users who upgraded have a reason to go back, well besides they like iPhone plus scaling and exclusive features better.

Control center is way worse but everything else is better imo.

Sounds like a real Sophie's Choice situation going on with you, Jeff. I turn on my Pixel 2 every single day just to keep it updated and scratch my Android itch. I just get so put off by the lower resolution and lack of vivid colors on that screen. I've had an S8 and the OS is so laggy due to all the bloatware Samsung installs on it (I returned it a while ago).

The thing I hate about Pixel 2 is there is no continuity between sound levels (ie. phone over car bluetooth at 100%, turn car off, use bluetooth headphones at 50%, back to car, bluetooth audio stays at 50% in car while I'm expecting it to jump to 100%). It's little QOL things like that that keep me on my iPhone X.

What's your daily driver now, Jeff?
 

borghe

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Oct 27, 2017
3,112
I am baffled by how anyone can claim control center is worse. I mean it's ugly as shit.. but iOS <11 control center was fucking miserable. We got used to it like an abusive relationship, but abso-fucking-lutely terrible.

the new one is ugly as shit, but spending a couple of minutes setting up the stuff you use makes it 100% more usable than the prior POS.
 

Vanillalite

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Oct 25, 2017
7,709
I can't justify spending more than $20 on any of these wireless chargers. Maybe when they're like fully wireless I'll shell out the coins.

The Choetech charger I have is like $15-$20on Amazon. You don't get a power brick though. Just the charger and a cable. It works fine.

You don't need to spend $50 to get one. You can easily get one from Choetech or Anker or the like for not much cash.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Sounds like a real Sophie's Choice situation going on with you, Jeff. I turn on my Pixel 2 every single day just to keep it updated and scratch my Android itch. I just get so put off by the lower resolution and lack of vivid colors on that screen. I've had an S8 and the OS is so laggy due to all the bloatware Samsung installs on it (I returned it a while ago).

The thing I hate about Pixel 2 is there is no continuity between sound levels (ie. phone over car bluetooth at 100%, turn car off, use bluetooth headphones at 50%, back to car, bluetooth audio stays at 50% in car while I'm expecting it to jump to 100%). It's little QOL things like that that keep me on my iPhone X.

What's your daily driver now, Jeff?

Pixel 2 XL.
Yeah android audio management is trash. Check out Bluetooth volume control on playstore.

I am baffled by how anyone can claim control center is worse. I mean it's ugly as shit.. but iOS <11 control center was fucking miserable. We got used to it like an abusive relationship, but abso-fucking-lutely terrible.

the new one is ugly as shit, but spending a couple of minutes setting up the stuff you use makes it 100% more usable than the prior POS.
It's functionality is fine. Wish I could move the default stuff around because I hold the phone with left hand so it's hard to reach media controls.

I'm mostly annoyed with the action to invoke it. Not the easiest to reach without 2 hands or reachability. Also you can't go directly to the setting for more details if you like force press wifi or Bluetooth which feels like a no Brainer.
 

borghe

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,112
I turned reachability on. Not the most elegant gesture to invoke it, but you quickly become a pro at it.

I agree that force press on wifi and bluetooth giving you a context option to go right to settings would have been simple. I do find Apple's solution to "turning off" wifi and BT to do exactly what most people expect in terms of functionality (don't connect to anything or try to connect to anything) while not compromising the QOL features of their ecosystem.. I think people have such an incredibly hard time with change. I have a buddy who swore he'd never turn raise to wake on because it was different than how he used his phone. Begrudgingly he turned it on with his X because he was so frustrated that he had to tap his screen to turn it on. I was like "what? It comes on as soon as you lift the phone??" forgetting that he still had it off from his stubbornness prior to X.
 

jts

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
3,018
Its just a bag with a 901 inside. It is cute though. You could probably make your own with a pad and some beanbag filling
But I like buying ready made stuff (it cost me 30€ btw, so I think it's more than fine for a wireless charger).

You did remind me that I could just also use the Fatboy bag on a faster charger later on.
 
Oct 25, 2017
11,584
Anyone try fast charging? Is it noticeably quicker than iPad charger?

Is there even any indication that fast charging happens? Like double lightning bolt or something.

Curious if some of my other usbc pd chargers work.
 

dallow_bg

Member
Oct 28, 2017
10,630
texas
I hate using reachability. The gesture works fine, but I never like doing it to hit stuff. Feel stupid.
Just move CC and I'll be happy.