Minus the core gameplay components of the actual pokemon games.
You might as well say the FF:Crystal Chronicles games are "Real Final Fantasys" because they have series elements in them.
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Minus the core gameplay components of the actual pokemon games.
You might as well say the FF:Crystal Chronicles games are "Real Final Fantasys" because they have series elements in them.
Plus that Lets Go is very clearly an attempt to introduce players of Pokémon Go to a more traditional Pokémon experience in an effort to sell more copies over all.
What do you mean? You could catch Pokemon, train them and trade/transfer them. That's the core gameplay I always loved about the handheld games.
You could 'purify' specific pokemon from being shadow pokemon or some shit.
Yeah, that was the ones you caught from the trainers. But there was plenty of regular Pokemon to catch the normal way.
I was simply stating Nvidia made one with a screen and btw I own a Switch. Its a nice HH but it doesn't change the fact its an NVidia shield with a Nintendo badge even down to a die level.
SONY is brilliant. MS push the same IP all the time, but so do Nintendo we all know we get sequels to Mario Kart, Zelda, Mario, Pokemon, Smash Bros without fail; I don't dispute those are quality games btw, but Nintendo is just as guilty as MS , when it comes to sequels to classic IP.
Stop being so pentadic. Listen to you the likes of Naughty Dog, Guerrilla isn't SONY In-House teams thanks to not only being bought and but not set up in SONY HQ Japan... The likes of RARE are In-House MS owns them 100% right down to a pension level.
So get over it and this year even MS will have more In-House games than Nintendo on their system and also far better 3rd party support too and next year seems no different too.
But Nintendo has way more popular IP than MS does, which is why they get off easier.
That games are not make in 3 days?? Also they got a good line up, now, whether is catter or not to you is a separated matter
They are officially classed as spinoffs though and not main series. Let's Go is the first mainseries game in a home console
You couldn't catch any wild Pokemon in Colosseum and only Nine wild Pokemon could be caught in XD, nice try though. I loved both of these games but in no way were they comparable to the mainline games we got on the handhelds.
Why does Nintendo always feel so....bored? Complacent. There's no feeling of energy, passion, or ambition from this company anymore. They go through the motions, but I've seldom seen a business that has a very tangible sense of fatigue and apathy. Sure, they may not be "doomed" and there are periods where that 'ol Nintendo spark is seen (BotW), but overall I have always expected less and less from Nintendo over the years and somehow still end up disappointed.
This company needs a complete upper management house cleaning. It feels like the developers are trying their best with what they have, but the guys upstairs don't much care.
This company needs a complete upper management house cleaning. It feels like the developers are trying their best with what they have, but the guys upstairs don't much care.
The company that gave you a box a cardboard and told you to make things lacks ambition.
Maybe Nintendo just isn't for you anymore. It happens, that's ok. Personally I feel the company that's on cruise control is Sony with going all in on the cinematic third person action game genre but it's working out for them so here we are.
Nintendo for better or worse at least tries new things. WIthout crashing and burning with stuff like the Wii U we never would have gotten the Switch. Honestly every time I hear this argument that they just rehash old franchises I often wonder if anyone actually looks at Nintendo's output and how far more varied it is compared to the other two major first parties.
As long as Sony is investing in PSVR, which this E3 showed continued support, they're not on cruise control and are trying something new.
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You named the one new big IP we've gotten for the switch. I'd tend to agree that Nintendo is very conservative these days due to the lack of new big IP. Then again Micrsoft and Sony aren't really much better. There's a lot less big IP churn in gaming than we see say in Hollywood. Gaming loves it's sequels and spin offs.
Sony puts out big new IP quite often.
However Nintendo doesn't take the Hollywood route with their games since they're a gameplay focused company. They reinvent their franchises all the time but there is no reason to remove characters like Mario and Link from the series. Nintendo's ambition comes from gameplay design, which is why you'll see so much variety in a series like Mario from a gameplay and structure standpoint.
No doubt, but I'm guessing the reason why MS is making sequels to Halo, Forza and not IP like PGR, Viva Pinata is because the likes of Halo still make money.. No doubt why Nintendo isn't so keen on making sequels to F Zero or Pilotwings any more.
There absolutely weren't, stop spreading lies.
You couldn't catch wild Pokemon at all in Colloseum, and just a very, very limited number of throwaway Pokemon in XD so you have enough to trade your favourites from RSE. It was gated behind a stupid "place food and go off somewhere else only to return in the middle of what you are doing in another area or else the Pokemon left with your food" system.
I liked both for what they were, but they very much weren't traditional Pokemon RPGs.
Well of course, but this is why MS needs to make new IP. Nintendo has a stable of 20 IP that they consistently pull from, MS seems to have 3? Maybe a few more smaller ones. That's why Nintendo isn't criticized as much for making sequels.
No need to be a wiseass. I seem to remember several areas in XD where wild Pokemon could be caught. Regardless, I know they weren't traditional Pokemon games. In many ways, I like them much better than the traditional games. A refreshingly different story, instead of the same old "travel around new region and defeat trainers and leaders to earn badges, and become champion". Yes, even the Alola games followed this tired storyline, it was just a re-skin.
The lore of the traditional games were always screwed up IMO. For example, you're told that you can't get a Pokemon until you are 10-11, but then during your journey, you encounter preschoolers and other kids that have their own Pokemon. And they aren't even starter Pokemon. Honestly, they really need to completely overhaul the main games and come up with a completely new storyline to follow, instead of the "train Pokemon and show everyone in the region you are better than them and can beat them."
Yes and completely drop the handheld market where they thrive (and have/had no competition).
That's a great idea! Golly gee, why had no one ever suggested that before?
this train of logic didn't make any sense during the WiiU age and it makes even less sense now.
A few days later, is there a summary of the situation lately?
I remember that it's down for another 4% on the 2nd day.
I remember that it's down for another 4% on the 2nd day.
I don't know, do we really need another Mario Tennis game or Smash Bro, other than some new stages and characters I see very little progression with the series (note: that doesn't mean they are bad games) Not much difference from Forza or Halo . So I don't get why MS gets called out, so much.. When Nintendo are hardly much (if any) better.
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Speaking of which, how does one go about in buying Nintendo stocks? I only have a vanguard account atm.
Yes we need a new Smash Brothers. Have you played the new Mario Tennis? It's nothing like the older games due to all the stuff they've added. But my point was more so that Nintendo simply has way more franchises. 20 sequels is a lot more diverse of a catalog than 3 sequels. MS should absolutely support their popular IP with sequels, they just don't have many.
BotW is the first time Nintendo has properly reinvented one of their major franchises in a long while. I'd say most of their other franchise releases have had more iterative changes in nature, though a few of those changes have been relatively bold.
Personally I'm disappointed myself. I literally don't care about Smash, Mario Party or Pokémon. And none of the third party stuff looks good at all. Plus we didn't get any info about the VC replacement when literally all I want it to own my old classic games on the go once and for all. Not even Odyssey DLC in the same vein as BOTW and MK8 got.
Well they are experimenting with same IP's for very long time (if they try new IP's then their production or budget looks like AA or indie level in risks), and its not like this is the first time Zelda game completely different. Would be nice to see a new IP in the scale of BOTW and creating new unique characters instead of using same characters getting really boring and not so interesting. What we want is Nintendo to learn from Sony, and make a big new IP out of some new unique character that feels fresh instead of milking.
Yes, we really need another Mario Tennis or Smash Bros.
The reason is that while these series have already a well defined gameplay template from which each new generational iterations just add some little spins, there are very little alternative to the kind of games Nintendo makes.
Nintendo owns a bunch of genre kings that have little competition in the market.
Do you want to play to a new Smash-like game? You will likely buy the newest Smash Bros.
Do you want to play to a new Mario Kart-like game? You will likely buy the newest Mario Kart.
Do you want to play to a new 3D platform game? You will likely buy the newest Mario 3D.
Do you want to play to a new arcade tennis game? You will likely buy the newest Mario Tennis.
And so on.
Even Splatoon which is part of a rather popular genre has a game structure so different and unique that's its own thing.
So what do we do if we want to play a new Zelda-like game? The newest Zelda will now probably be like BOTW, which I didn't feel was a Zelda-like game at all.
Have you played the New Halo, Gears of War?..All sequels add new stuff, but I don't see calls for a reboot for Smash or Pokemon, little different for Halo though.
Yes, I've beaten the new Gears and I've played Halo 5. Halo fans mostly seem disappointed in the direction 343 has taken the franchise. When fans aren't happy with a franchise they'll request a reboot or reverting back to the style they fell in love with before. Plenty of Nintendo fans ask for games like Star Fox or (prior to BotW) Zelda to be reinvented because we were growing tired of the direction the series was taking. No one wants Smash rebooted because we love it the way it is...but you'll still see some people asking for it to be Melee.
Granted this is an entirely different debate than what we were talking about before.
This is almost certainly a glimpse of NSW's future. Yikes!
With Japanese support out and Western third party support out even before, there will almost certainly be droughts throughout this systems life. Just as well N are continuing to support 3DS as, if NSW sales falter, they'll need a backup plan.
For me personally, the system has already gone from buy at first redesign to maybe buy a secondhand one in the fifth or sixth year of the systems life.
With Japanese support out and Western third party support out even before, there will almost certainly be droughts throughout this systems life. Just as well N are continuing to support 3DS as, if NSW sales falter, they'll need a backup plan.
For me personally, the system has already gone from buy at first redesign to maybe buy a secondhand one in the fifth or sixth year of the systems life.
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