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Chloe Dykstra Posts About Domestic/Sexual Abuse at the hands of Chris Hardwick

ZattMurdock

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ZeroX said:
So he's going with the "I did nothing illegal" defense.

If other women come out against him, he's dead in the water. Dangerous game to play.
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Here's the thing:

Other women might not come out against him. I honestly doubt that Chloe has video/audio evidence of being sexually assaulted by him. He's viciously putting her words against his. This wasn't Chloe demanding Hardwick money, this wasn't a lawsuit. All she was asking for was an apology - and you know, not have her professional life blacklisted -, like she expressed with her own words.

Hardwick could avoid this situation by apologizing to her. Instead, he released a "statement" to the trades that read like a press release from both Deadline and THR. This reeks lawyer ready "joint statement" because it is one, we still haven't seen an actual full statement by him because what he has released was to the press and carefully reviewed.

It's like the title of her post: he's describing their relationship with rose-colored glasses and saying he's shocked, while coily claiming that she didn't accept the end of the relationship, basically playing the crazy ex card. She has finally put to words what hurted her on their relationship. She isn't asking for his career to be over, she's asking for closure and that he stops fucking with her own career, that's not too much to ask, I think .

From Chloe's post:

This story, post, whatever this is, serves as both closure for me as I say farewell to my twenties and stumble my way into my thirties, and it serves as a warning for every single one of you, regardless of gender. One of my favorite quotes comes from Bojack Horseman:

"You know, it's funny; when you look at someone through rose-colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."

Please, please, keep an eye out for those red flags.
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Now put this part of his stand up in context:





I don't think Chloe is out for revenge or fucking over Hardwick's career. She wants closure and for him to stop abusing her fucking over her career, which has continued since she has several friends coming forward confirming that he did blacklist her. She wanted an apology and that the blacklisting stopped. This asshole wants war. Thankfully, the time for people that think like him - and give him the benefit of the doubt when it's obvious lawyer ready drivel - is up.
 
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Amiablepercy

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I'm curious what actress/writer (really talented) Andrea Savage thinks about this situation. Chris and her dated for a really long time back in the day before he like "transformed" himself and they did a podcast (which I think Nerdist scrubbed) sort of dissecting the relationship and nothing but his drinking issues were brought up.

I wonder if she is going to come forward with her own story especially if the podcast and @ Midnight appearance only happened because Chris became such a wretched egotistical gatekeeper for so many people. I work in Los Angeles and it's weird what fame, a lifestyle/health change will do to people in the entertainment industry. You have a friend who is kind, seems like a good person and BOOM they go from Zero to abusive Asshole overnight

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NoRéN

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So he's going with the "not true because she's crazy" defense.

I swear some lesser known egotistical foum nerd pulled that shit too not long ago...
 
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Jessica used to work for Legendary.

And holy shit:



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[mod edit: that book quote appears to have been fabricated]
 
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Amiablepercy

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Gwenpoolshark said:
Christ fuck Jesus mother of Joseph it's like if Ready Player One was just a straight up rape fantasy God damn it fuck this is just awful to read it's like genuinely climbing inside the mind of a self obsessive abuser Jesus fuck.
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I was thinking the same thing. Not only is it poorly written but it's just gross. It confirms so many things Chloe wrote about. The fame worshipping name-dropping douchebaggery is bananas.
 
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Amiablepercy said:
I was thinking the same thing. Not only is it poorly written but it's just gross. It confirms so many things Chloe wrote about. The fame worshipping name-dropping douchebaggery is bananas.
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I hadn't even noticed that due to being plain horrified. But now that you pointed it out I get gweenpoolshark's comment.
 
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Her story made me fucking gag. I can't believe I used to enjoy listening to that dude.
 
Gwenpoolshark

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NoRéN said:
I hadn't even noticed that due to being plain horrified. But now that you pointed it out I get gweenpoolshark's comment.
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I think it's also super disturbing because it's essentially written like an instruction manual. It's like a how-to for toxic nice guy nerd abusers, clearly unapologetic and totally possessive of women, treating them like objects for your own sexual gratification, like a cool tote bag you got at the con.
 
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Gwenpoolshark said:
I think it's also super disturbing because it's essentially written like an instruction manual. It's like a how-to for toxic nice guy nerd abusers, clearly unapologetic and totally possessive of women, treating them like objects for your own sexual gratification, like a cool tote bag you got at the con.
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Not only an instructional manual to the toxic nice guy, but to "the potential next girlfriend", you know, she better be ready. Ugh.
 
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What in the actual fuck

It's one thing to read something that corroborates with Dykstra's account, but it's on an entirely different level to see it written straight from that dipshit's fingertips.
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That he had PUBLISHED for the whole world to see in a book with his name on it. He's straight up celebrating his abusive behavior and asking his readers to join him in celebration.
 
SeanM

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Hardwick's denial seems really weak, and the "as a husband, a son, and future father" bullshit pandering stuff really pisses me off.
 
ZattMurdock

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This tweet above brought this to my attention. He doesn't deny forcing her into sex when she didn't want to, but goes for the semantics of not being "sexually assault". His whole defense hinges on him putting his word against her and claiming the "she cray and won't accept that it's over, y'all" card. That's basically it.


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Hardwick's denial seems really weak, and the "as a husband, a son, and future father" bullshit pandering stuff really pisses me off.
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Sexist coded lingo. He's playing for the type of audience that would have him now.
 
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Seeing stuff like this always fucks with me.

I always want to believe the victim, I have friends that have been raped and abused where the abuser denied the allegations - I've seen precisely how the assault and ensuing denial traumatizes them in both the short and long term. It's absolutely horrific and heartbreaking to see someone damaged, especially someone you really care about.

But on the flipside, there was a time where I've personally heard people in my social sphere say: "just say he sexually assaulted you to his female friends, that'll poison his prospects and teach him a lesson for fucking around on you" (mutual friend had a bad breakup, the guy didn't assault her or anything, just an inconsiderate cheating douchebro) or another person say "he doesn't want kids? just poke holes in the condoms, that's how I was able to have my first daughter". The casualness as to which I heard those statements uttered really disturbed me, I don't know if the suggestions were followed because these involved friends of friends/family that I don't see anymore. That shit has made it very hard for me to blindly believe every story/claim that pops up.

With this and the Aziz Ansari article (this at least for now doesn't appear to be something as clear cut as harvey/cosby/ck/etc)...all I know is that I don't know any of these people, I can't intuit anything about these people like the people I know really well in my day to day life. All I know is that people are capable of bravely telling the truth - but also are entirely capable of lying or simply bending certain parts of the truth to suit their personal interest.

I always want to believe the victim because I'm an empathetic person and the experiences of my life include many instances of people getting hurt senselessly, but I also can't be part of a mob mentality that is out to crucify someone based on one account with no evidence to back it up because it if doesn't end up being true you've just condemned and irreversibly damaged an innocent person. Hearing the story and being supportive is one thing, but swift annihilation of a person you don't know anything about is another.

If you had to play the odds, the male is probably guilty of the claims the vast majority of the time based on statistics - but there have been a small handful of instances where the same group justly attacking a legitimate abuser/rapist/etc online have destroyed the life of someone completely innocent. I'm not really cool with collateral damage in any context (metoo/war/etc).

I'm supportive of Chloe and the truth coming out and justice being served, but at the same time I also find it disturbing that people so eagerly form a tidal wave of reprisal without seeing any actual evidence - even before hearing the other side of the story (or refusing to entertain hearing the other half of the story).

I feel like, all I can do is hope the truth comes out and that things improve. I don't know if struggling with this and not wanting to assert judgement over someone else's truth makes me a shitty person or not - I just wish people in general would stop being so fucking awful to each other.
 
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ZeroX

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I'm supportive of Chloe and the truth coming out and justice being served, but at the same time I also find it disturbing that people so eagerly form a tidal wave of reprisal without seeing any actual evidence - even before hearing the other side of the story (or refusing to entertain hearing the other half of the story).
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I mean Chris already wrote the receipts on himself if you look a few posts up, and doesn't deny anything except sexual assault (and his other behavior wasn't exactly stellar).

I get where you're coming from, but this probably isn't the thread. If you want to wait for more information, which can often be a prudent course, just don't engage until ready.
 
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ZeroX said:
I mean Chris already wrote the receipts on himself if you look a few posts up, and doesn't deny anything except sexual assault (and his other behavior wasn't exactly stellar).

I get where you're coming from, but this probably isn't the thread. If you want to wait for more information, which can often be a prudent course, just don't engage until ready.
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Ah I didn't see that, I had my reply open for awhile.. I guess it's better to not say anything, I don't want to be misconstrued as someone against metoo or anything. Shit is just fucked in general, people are awful.
 
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XAL said:
I'm supportive of Chloe and the truth coming out and justice being served, but at the same time I also find it disturbing that people so eagerly form a tidal wave of reprisal without seeing any actual evidence - even before hearing the other side of the story (or refusing to entertain hearing the other half of the story).
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You know why that's so disturbing to you? Because society has never done it before.

Women have NEVER been listened to.
 
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You know why that's so disturbing to you? Because society has never done it before.

Women have NEVER been listened to.
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I mean, society definitely has backlashed this hard before on social media, this whole tidal wave/mob aspect of "internet justice" has been prevalent for the past few years.
The magnitude/speed/intensity of the reprisal we've been seeing over a single tweet or an article is only possible today with tech + social media being as prevalent as it has been for the past few years.

And to be clear, a just reprisal is just, I'm not saying people taking women's side/listening is disturbing - if that's what you're saying then you misunderstood me...I was speaking of the general intensity on which people are able to gather and attack on the internet and have it blow up exponentially very quickly before anything past one account is heard.
 
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XAL said:
I mean, society definitely has backlashed this hard before on social media, this whole tidal wave/mob aspect of "internet justice" has been prevalent for the past few years.
The magnitude/speed/intensity of the reprisal we've been seeing over a single tweet or an article is only possible today with tech + social media being as prevalent as it has been for the past few years.

And to be clear, a just reprisal is just, I'm not saying people taking women's side/listening is disturbing - if that's what you're saying then you misunderstood me...I was speaking of the general intensity on which people are able to gather and attack on the internet and have it blow up exponentially very quickly before anything past one account is heard.
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Ah, I see. I'm glad you clarified, then. At this point, though, taking the enormity of historical human reaction to abuse against women into account, this is still an overall positive phenomenon.
 
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Glad she's in a better place. Loved her in that wrestling short fim.

Honestly, these type of relationships are way too common. And sadly they get brushed off because of the "why she with him" mentality. But her bf tweets actually brings up a good point. Too many people focus too much on getting justice instead of spreading the message.

Yes, he should deal with the consenquenes but that shouldn't be the headline. Spreading the message about domestic abuse and getting help should be.
 
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Ah, I see. I'm glad you clarified, then. At this point, though, taking the enormity of historical human reaction to abuse against women into account, this is still an overall positive phenomenon.
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Of course.

Though social media is one helluva double edged blade since that's basically what got Trump elected....fuuuuuck
 
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That statement wasn't good. Obviously he'd never admit to the assualt, but he could've said something like, "I was a horrible boyfriend and I'm ashamed of my actions," or something. Instead of just blaming her for everything.
 
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Interficium said:
Of course it doesn't.

But honestly dudes such as him need to keep their trap shut. He's part of the problem.
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He done something shitty 11 years ago so should never be able to speak on anything ever again? He is her current partner and I am sure they will have discussed the situation before he even posted anything.
 
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He done something shitty 11 years ago so should never be able to speak on anything ever again? He is her current partner and I am sure they will have discussed the situation before he even posted anything.
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I guess for me it's like, how the fuck are you gonna be like "believe women! ....except for my accusers from 12 years ago." It's shitty.
 
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Interficium said:
Of course it doesn't.

But honestly dudes such as him need to keep their trap shut. He's part of the problem.
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maybe was part of the problem?

People are capable of learning from their mistakes, evolving, and working to fix wrongs they may have committed in the past so they may not be continued in the future by themselves or others.

I think when you brand people for life for a past mistake and shut them off from being a future ally, you do the entire movement a great disservice. How can you expect society to reform if you vilify and freeze out the already reformed like they're present villains?
 
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As someone who just got out of an 5 year abusive relationship reading what she wrote gave me ptsd.
 
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If things like that were happening within 2 weeks I don't get how someone can stay with the person for 2 years, unless he physically threatened her from being able to leave it's just odd, i'd leave the relationship if things were so bad early on.
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Maybe educate yourself of abusive relationships and traits of human psyche that keeps some people in them.
 

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Wouldn't have actually been much worse had he alternatively wrote "That sweet con floor ass you're gonna be taking in is gonna have your dick rock hard, and your girl best stay put and be ready when you get back or she's not worth it, bruhs."
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Not Hardwicky enough.

"That sweet Samus cosplay ass you're gonna be taking in is gonna have your dick harder than Ben Grimm from the Fantastic Four. Your girl best stay put like the robot R2-D2 when Luke landed on Dagobah and be ready like Marty McFly waiting for the lighting to strike the clock tower and juice up his DeLorean, because when you get back you're going to want to have sex like MAIN CHARACTER in POPULAR 80'S MOVIE. If she's not, then she's not worthyyyy. She's not worthyyyy. Remember Wayne's World?"
 
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