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Oct 27, 2017
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Struggling with Anor Londor bosses; don't have any fire weapon or resin, and couldn't be bothered tracking back.

Also have no humanity to summon.
You can make pretty short work of them if you've happened to grab a Pyromancy Flame and Power Within from Blightown. Failing that, stick behind the pillars and draw out Ornstein. Once he's down the fight is a cake walk.

What weapon are you using out of interest?
 

Lux86

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Oct 27, 2017
983
Struggling with Anor Londor bosses; don't have any fire weapon or resin, and couldn't be bothered tracking back.

Also have no humanity to summon.

You can place your sign and help someone with the boss, if you manage to win you'll get your human form (so you will be able to summon and btw helping people makes you better at fighting that specific boss ).
 

Red Liquorice

Member
Oct 27, 2017
9,064
UK
I beat the game and started NG+ but I'm realizing I relied way too heavily on summoning other players. I need a good sword cuz the Enchanted Falchion seems to be weak.
You probably don't have the stats to take advantage of it. Enchanted Weapons scale with Intelligence. If you're not a magic build, it will be a useless weapon.

You can get rid of the Enchantment at Andre, which I think will take it down to a +5, from which you can take it all the way to +15. If you like the weapon that is. I think curved swords suck, but they are pretty fast DEX weapons if you've put a lot of points in to DEX.
 

LilWayneSuckz

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Oct 25, 2017
2,816
You probably don't have the stats to take advantage of it. Enchanted Weapons scale with Intelligence. If you're not a magic build, it will be a useless weapon.

You can get rid of the Enchantment at Andre, which I think will take it down to a +5, from which you can take it all the way to +15. If you like the weapon that is. I think curved swords suck, but they are pretty fast DEX weapons if you've put a lot of points in to DEX.

Thanks!! I'll try doing that.
 

Tamath

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Oct 31, 2017
742
Vienna, Austria
I'm close to the Platinum. Did NG with the Uchigatana, now in NG+ and with all the farming to upgrade all the weapons and so on for the trophies my SL is getting pretty ridiculous so I'm trying out the Greatsword of Artorias, which is... Fairly underwhelming, actually. Now at 24 STR, 40 DEX (cos of using Uchi before), 40 INT and 25 FTH.

All I have left to do in NG+ is kill Seath, the DLC bosses (I don't have to, but I want to) and Gwyn, then play NG++ as far as Anor Londo to make my last two missing boss soul weapons with Sif and Gwyn's souls and I'm all done.

I played OG Dark Souls for hundreds of hours with different builds and never once finished an NG+ as I preferred to start over with a new character to try something new, so I feel like pushing myself to get the Platinum and see a playthrough of at least NG+ is helping me finally see all the game has to offer. It say something about Dark Souls that, despite the fact I hardly ever replay games anymore (I simply don't have the time to do that and keep even halfway on top of new releases), I am more than willing to find the time to go through Lordran all over again.
 

meadowdrone

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Oct 27, 2017
296
UK
Having a blast getting back into this game. Also, I'm doing a sorcery run for the first time, while all 5 souls games I've always minmaxed STR, all melee all the time. It's really cool to have a new way to play. I hope I don't screw up any of the "questlines" with the sorcery NPCs.

Also, realised I've never been down in the swamp with the titanite demons in Sen's Fortress before! Will be exploring that a bunch next time I load the game up.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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You can make pretty short work of them if you've happened to grab a Pyromancy Flame and Power Within from Blightown. Failing that, stick behind the pillars and draw out Ornstein. Once he's down the fight is a cake walk.

What weapon are you using out of interest?

10+ Broadsword

You can place your sign and help someone with the boss, if you manage to win you'll get your human form (so you will be able to summon and btw helping people makes you better at fighting that specific boss ).

Didn't know that thanks. Trying to solo every boss; never summoned across the series.
 

JJShadow

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Oct 25, 2017
1,344
UK/Spain
I placed my summon sign right by O&S door yesterday but surprisingly I didn't get summoned after waiting for 15-20 minutes. Decided to place it next to Artorias instead and got summoned every 10 seconds lol It feels so good helping people beat it for the first time, best and most challenging boss fight in the game hands down
 

Steel

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Oct 25, 2017
18,220
You probably don't have the stats to take advantage of it. Enchanted Weapons scale with Intelligence. If you're not a magic build, it will be a useless weapon.

You can get rid of the Enchantment at Andre, which I think will take it down to a +5, from which you can take it all the way to +15. If you like the weapon that is. I think curved swords suck, but they are pretty fast DEX weapons if you've put a lot of points in to DEX.

Wha? The falchion is a super solid weapon if two-handed. Wide arc attacks, reasonable range, good charge attack, not a bad R2 to make up for the horizontal swing in tight spaces, fast, light, goes extremely well with resins/magic weapon... Better for PVP than PvE though. Especially because of the rolling attack that has a weird wind-up that can catch parry players off-guard but is a liability against pve enemies. Works best with no lock-on playstyle, imo.
 

Red Liquorice

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Oct 27, 2017
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Wha? The falchion is a super solid weapon if two-handed. Wide arc attacks, reasonable range, good charge attack, not a bad R2 to make up for the horizontal swing in tight spaces, fast, light, goes extremely well with resins/magic weapon... Better for PVP than PvE though. Especially because of the rolling attack that has a weird wind-up that can catch parry players off-guard but is a liability against pve enemies. Works best with no lock-on playstyle, imo.
Like I said it has fast attacks and scales well with DEX. I just don't personally like curved swords. Whatever weapon works for you, moveset trumps damage output imo, it's all about enjoying using a weapon.
 
Dec 6, 2017
10,986
US
I've already asked a while back but figured I'd check in on this one again since I'm bored with what I'm currently playing:

Are they addressing any bugs and/or showing signs of support? Has anything been patched yet?
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,809
I did some jolly cooperation last friday afternoon, I helped dozens of people with Ornstein and Smough and helped them with invaders.
It's so much fun and I've earned so much souls, I just beat Ornstein and Smough myself and I'm SL 91.

Is there a downside for overleveling (Coop-wise or otherwise)?
 

Orochinagis

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Oct 27, 2017
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There were some random patches fixing stability and connecting issues.

I did some jolly cooperation last friday afternoon, I helped dozens of people with Ornstein and Smough and helped them with invaders.
It's so much fun and I've earned so much souls, I just beat Ornstein and Smough myself and I'm SL 91.

Is there a downside for overleveling (Coop-wise or otherwise)?

You will probably get summoned to NG+ runs if you are way too high and the rest of your play wont ajust to your current level so you would probably kill your game inmersion.
 

Morrigan

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Oct 24, 2017
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I've already asked a while back but figured I'd check in on this one again since I'm bored with what I'm currently playing:

Are they addressing any bugs and/or showing signs of support? Has anything been patched yet?
What bugs? The only significant one I encountered was the ghost figures of the 4 Kings that I ran into on occasion. I can't recall if it was there in the old version or not.
 

Red Liquorice

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Oct 27, 2017
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SL91 is end game level. O&S is SL40-50.

I guess weapon level also is to be taken in to consideration now too. What a mess matchmaking is and has been since DS2.
 
Dec 6, 2017
10,986
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What bugs? The only significant one I encountered was the ghost figures of the 4 Kings that I ran into on occasion. I can't recall if it was there in the old version or not.

Ambient background sound is missing and/or fucked up in several areas. Many people also had issues with enemies clipping through floors etc. that wasn't present in the original. Curious to see whether they're promising patches for this or if they're just going to ignore it.
 

ghibli99

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Oct 27, 2017
17,700
Although probably a depressing statistic, I wish there was a way to see your total souls lost through failed recoveries. I only say this as I lost 19K BEs in Bloodborne early game last night. LOL
 

Morrigan

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Oct 24, 2017
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Ambient background sound is missing and/or fucked up in several areas. Many people also had issues with enemies clipping through floors etc. that wasn't present in the original. Curious to see whether they're promising patches for this or if they're just going to ignore it.
Ah, I haven't experienced those. But I did experience sound effects, such as the parrying, ripose, or Estus chugging sound, to not play sometimes, especially in multiplayer.
 

BigJeffery

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Oct 30, 2017
2,338
Finally done with this game. I'm glad I was able to complete it, but I didn't really enjoy it at all. I went back to DS3 immediately afterward.

It's funny, I'm kind of having the exact opposite reaction, but with DS2.

I played DSR, loved it, had a blast, decided to finally play DS2 with all the DLC and I think it kind of sucks. I'm still enjoying it (well, parts of it anyway lol), but it is insane to me how much of a step back the game is on almost every single level. People say it has the best co-op and pvp of all the games, but those are the parts of Dark Souls I care about the least.
 

Rookhelm

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Oct 27, 2017
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I did some jolly cooperation last friday afternoon, I helped dozens of people with Ornstein and Smough and helped them with invaders.
It's so much fun and I've earned so much souls, I just beat Ornstein and Smough myself and I'm SL 91.

Is there a downside for overleveling (Coop-wise or otherwise)?

When Dark Souls first came out (don't know if this ever changed with time, though), the unofficial, player-agreed lvl cap was 120. The community sorta decided this was the defacto "best" max level...that way, if everyone was at 120, you'd get the max amount of summons for PVE and PVP.

Overleveling too much can limit who you're summoning (and being summoned).

Edit: In this remaster, they're also taking weapon level into account too...so I don't know if anyone knows what the algorithm is yet.

AFAIK, there's no drawback with overleveling if you never plan to co-op/PVP. but there are diminishing returns to stats the higher you go, so after while, it basically becomes pointless to level at all.
 

III-V

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Oct 25, 2017
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I did some jolly cooperation last friday afternoon, I helped dozens of people with Ornstein and Smough and helped them with invaders.
It's so much fun and I've earned so much souls, I just beat Ornstein and Smough myself and I'm SL 91.

Is there a downside for overleveling (Coop-wise or otherwise)?
At ~70 I did not get any summons for volunteer sunbro helper at O&S, although at 55 it was near instant.

Weapon: +5 BKH
 
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PSqueak

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Oct 25, 2017
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Swinging by this thread to say Bed of Chaos can go fuck itself, it's less of a boss and more of a horribly unnecessary annoyance.
 

ghibli99

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Oct 27, 2017
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DkS2 is so strange going to it directly from this. Like, what the hell happened to the character controls? So touchy/weird.
 

FHIZ

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Oct 28, 2017
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So here's a random question, I beat the game a week or so ago and made it through the painted world really quickly. I was expecting some sort of hellish torment based on everything I heard, but I sorta just walked through it with very little challenge and found it to be extremely short.

What was the big deal back then? Is it because you can enter it relatively early and I guess if you attack the boss at the end you're stuck until you beat her? I did save it for the very end, so was I just over leveled for it?

DkS2 is so strange going to it directly from this. Like, what the hell happened to the character controls? So touchy/weird.

Yeah, I went right to II after this and the floaty feel is definitely a bit off-putting.
 

Coi

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Oct 27, 2017
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SL91 is end game level. O&S is SL40-50.

I guess weapon level also is to be taken in to consideration now too. What a mess matchmaking is and has been since DS2.

lol no
Yesterday I was playing PVP at anor londo. Level 80, +15 weapons and I had literally more than 15 summon signs at Solaire bonfire and before the boss gate. Also with dried fingers I was invaded by two red phantoms almost instantly.
Maybe its the new verdion but looks like people are not really in the SL120 meta.
 
Nov 13, 2017
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So here's a random question, I beat the game a week or so ago and made it through the painted world really quickly. I was expecting some sort of hellish torment based on everything I heard, but I sorta just walked through it with very little challenge and found it to be extremely short.

What was the big deal back then? Is it because you can enter it relatively early and I guess if you attack the boss at the end you're stuck until you beat her? I did save it for the very end, so was I just over leveled for it?



Yeah, I went right to II after this and the floaty feel is definitely a bit off-putting.
You want to experience real hell? Play the painted world in Dark Souls III. That thing is so unforgiving.
 

Ebullientprism

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Oct 25, 2017
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So here's a random question, I beat the game a week or so ago and made it through the painted world really quickly. I was expecting some sort of hellish torment based on everything I heard, but I sorta just walked through it with very little challenge and found it to be extremely short.

What was the big deal back then? Is it because you can enter it relatively early and I guess if you attack the boss at the end you're stuck until you beat her? I did save it for the very end, so was I just over leveled for it?

Yeah, I went right to II after this and the floaty feel is definitely a bit off-putting.

I dont think it was a big deal difficulty wise ever. The big deal was how well hidden it was and the idea of it was cool.

Painted world is not really difficult, even if you do it the earliest you can. By design, the earliest point where you can get to this area is the same where you are expected to be able to fight Orenstien and Smough. The enemies in this area arent tough and the boss is actually MUCH easier than O&S. And you can even skip the boss. Compared to Anor Londo it is pretty much a cakewalk.
 

xeroborn55

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Oct 27, 2017
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So I'm on my first playthrough of dark souls. Just beat nito.

My character is dex based. I have a +10 great scythe, +8 bss, +5 uchi, +5 iaito. The great scythe has been my main weapon but it's a little slow. I want to branch out to one of the other weapons for a while.

I read I can farm the tower knight in sen's or buy large titanite shards from the blacksmith in anor londo. Any tips on which would be faster to upgrade the other weapons?
 

xenocide

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Oct 25, 2017
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Farming Anor Londo is actually really quick after you've cleared it. Start at Princess Chamber, kill the 2 big knights in the entrance and the silver knight up above, then weave through the residence and kill all the silver knights and it nets you upwards of 20-22k souls--overkill bonus later on when you can consistently parry/backstab 1 shot them. Should only take like 10 minutes and you can reset by warping from the residence to Chamber and do it over and over again. It helped me farm up some mats for upgrading weapons and I've been using it to farm souls to buy Artorias set.
 

FHIZ

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Oct 28, 2017
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You want to experience real hell? Play the painted world in Dark Souls III. That thing is so unforgiving.

Maybe that's what I'm thinking of, I just seem to remember the threat of being stuck there a lot.

So I'm on my first playthrough of dark souls. Just beat nito.

My character is dex based. I have a +10 great scythe, +8 bss, +5 uchi, +5 iaito. The great scythe has been my main weapon but it's a little slow. I want to branch out to one of the other weapons for a while.

I read I can farm the tower knight in sen's or buy large titanite shards from the blacksmith in anor londo. Any tips on which would be faster to upgrade the other weapons?

I think easiest large shard farming is found at the swamp in Blight Town, there's a whole bunch of slugs on the left half and if you've got 10+ humanity, they drop pretty damn quickly. I'd usually get 5-7 in a run. Just make sure to have some purple moss to clear poison every now and then. There should be videos out there with the most efficient route.
 

AbbaZabba

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Oct 28, 2017
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Part of me feels like I pay penance by helping others with bosses that I had to summon for lol.

If you need a Sun Bro for Nito on PS4 atm, hit me up :P
 

ghibli99

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Oct 27, 2017
17,700
Yeah, Painted World isn't bad. Watch out for toxic and those bonewheel skeletons. Easy to farm Souvenirs of Reprisal too. Really enjoy that area! After several playthroughs, I still think I struggle the most with New Londo and Duke's...
The controller deadzone is a mess. For me just resting my thumb on the control stick would make my character jerk around. And jump attacks/kicks would barely register.
Oh yeah, that must be it. There's a weird "all or nothing" digital feel to the controls. Also, backstabs have such vague feedback that I'm never quite sure if I'm executing one, whereas it's instantaneously communicated visually in DkS1.
 
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Oct 26, 2017
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Maybe that's what I'm thinking of, I just seem to remember the threat of being stuck there a lot.



I think easiest large shard farming is found at the swamp in Blight Town, there's a whole bunch of slugs on the left half and if you've got 10+ humanity, they drop pretty damn quickly. I'd usually get 5-7 in a run. Just make sure to have some purple moss to clear poison every now and then. There should be videos out there with the most efficient route.

When I go farming there, I just run from the tunnel bonfire, kill everything, grab all the shards and then warp or run back without using moss. The poison is so slow that unless you get stuck or are really not paying attention, it's not a problem. Just heal up now and then so a slug can't one-shot you.
 

Ebullientprism

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Oct 25, 2017
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So I'm on my first playthrough of dark souls. Just beat nito.

My character is dex based. I have a +10 great scythe, +8 bss, +5 uchi, +5 iaito. The great scythe has been my main weapon but it's a little slow. I want to branch out to one of the other weapons for a while.

I read I can farm the tower knight in sen's or buy large titanite shards from the blacksmith in anor londo. Any tips on which would be faster to upgrade the other weapons?

Co op the Iron Golem in Sen's 2-3 times. Buy from the merchant on top of Sens Fortress. You will 20-30 spare shards in 15-20 minutes.

Maybe that's what I'm thinking of, I just seem to remember the threat of being stuck there a lot.

I think easiest large shard farming is found at the swamp in Blight Town, there's a whole bunch of slugs on the left half and if you've got 10+ humanity, they drop pretty damn quickly. I'd usually get 5-7 in a run. Just make sure to have some purple moss to clear poison every now and then. There should be videos out there with the most efficient route.

This is so boring though. Why would you do that when you can co op bosses and have more fun, help people and just buy the shards with the souls you get.
 

jotun?

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Oct 28, 2017
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So I'm on my first playthrough of dark souls. Just beat nito.

My character is dex based. I have a +10 great scythe, +8 bss, +5 uchi, +5 iaito. The great scythe has been my main weapon but it's a little slow. I want to branch out to one of the other weapons for a while.

I read I can farm the tower knight in sen's or buy large titanite shards from the blacksmith in anor londo. Any tips on which would be faster to upgrade the other weapons?
The best place I found for getting titanite for the normal upgrade path is at the bottom of New Londo, after you open the seal. The guys there frequently drop titanite chunks (which can trade for 3 large shards each) and have a small chance of dropping slabs

Farming Anor Londo is actually really quick after you've cleared it. Start at Princess Chamber, kill the 2 big knights in the entrance and the silver knight up above, then weave through the residence and kill all the silver knights and it nets you upwards of 20-22k souls--overkill bonus later on when you can consistently parry/backstab 1 shot them. Should only take like 10 minutes and you can reset by warping from the residence to Chamber and do it over and over again. It helped me farm up some mats for upgrading weapons and I've been using it to farm souls to buy Artorias set.
I did that a bit on my first character, when I was playing offline.

Second character I've been doing a few co-op runs of each boss after I beat them, and some of those have felt waaay more efficient, at least in terms of effort. Most recently I was just dropping my summon sign outside of the Seath fight (right before the killer oysters). Browse Era, watch youtube, etc. while waiting for a summon, then just a couple minutes work for ~35k souls. Plus I get to feel good for helping someone clear the boss and get the sword from the tail cut. Might be slightly less time-efficient, but feels like less of a grind. Bonus souls and feel-goods when I happen to kill an invader too. I actually wasn't even in it for the souls, but ended up with over 500k before I decided I should probably move on.
 
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JJShadow

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Oct 25, 2017
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Started DS2 today after beating this one and yeah, the character movement and control feel so weird in comparison to DS, a strange mix between slippery and floaty is how I'd describe it. Hopefully I'll get used to it sooner than later
 

Arozay

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Oct 29, 2017
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Started DS2 today after beating this one and yeah, the character movement and control feel so weird in comparison to DS, a strange mix between slippery and floaty is how I'd describe it. Hopefully I'll get used to it sooner than later
Yeah I'm two bosses in on my first playthrough. Rolling is horrible now due to the homing melee attacks. Gotta play every fight ultra safe.

And the death penalty sucks, getting invaded as a hollow when you're fighting 3 mobs on 75% capped health makes sense.
 

Host Samurai

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Oct 27, 2017
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Weapon broke on the Gaping Dragon, now need to go all the way back to the blacksmith. I also need to upgrade some more of my weapons because I feel like I am poking that boss with a toothpick lol. Was one hit away from killing him too lol. I refuse to just grind my way out now.

yeah, DS2 feels so weird. I made a few attempts to play it and can never get used to the movements. It's like I'll always get hit on when I roll. It's no doubt the hardest Souls game for me.
 

III-V

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Oct 25, 2017
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Weapon broke on the Gaping Dragon, now need to go all the way back to the blacksmith. I also need to upgrade some more of my weapons because I feel like I am poking that boss with a toothpick lol. Was one hit away from killing him too lol. I refuse to just grind my way out now.

yeah, DS2 feels so weird. I made a few attempts to play it and can never get used to the movements. It's like I'll always get hit on when I roll. It's no doubt the hardest Souls game for me.
Buy a box that allows you to repair your weapons at the bonfire.