CNBC: Elon Musk emails employees about 'extensive and damaging sabotage' by employee
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I reported it and questioned the ban....why the heck not. At times, I stupidly wish the bans weren't as transparent because the more they reveal their reasonings, the more confused I get.
They won't stop trying, at least. The history of America automobile manufacturers is littered with actual, proven events that would normally seem to be wacky conspiracy theories.
Should be longer tbh, maybe permanent. Accusing other members with no evidence isn't acceptable.
Not really, calling people Russian bots etc just because people didn't agree with with him is weird
Such weird conspiracy mongering. Yeah I know he claims the person admitted it but Tesla has bigger problems that one person can't sabotage.
Your prior post wasn't rational skepticism. Or anything even close to that.
When you have 50 posts on this forum and 49 go to kissing Musk's ass, what do you call that?
I'd call that a poster who focuses on Elon Musk and/or his companies.
A person interested in something isn't a shill. Do you know what the word means?
Which employee-saboteur is responsible for hacking his Twitter and making him look like an idiot?
Maybe that employee was a Robin Hood who wanted to uncripple the deactivated features in Tesla cars you have to pay to unlock, or "on car DLC", like autopilot systems? /s
So are the police going to get involved and start naming names? Seems like an extremely serious situation that needs to be dealt with. Even if it is the joke that is the white collar justice system.
lol gotta instantly and irrationally take a position without waiting for any evidence or lack thereof. Outrage is fun and there's too many things to faux rage over to waste any time. Time is money!
We all suck pretty hard and have to ruin everything. Poor internet and everything else we touch. Go humanity #1!
We all suck pretty hard and have to ruin everything. Poor internet and everything else we touch. Go humanity #1!
Musk including the paragraph about Wall streets is exactly the kind of narrative he wants people to eat up and a lot of y'all are doing it.
Seems to me from the text that the only thing the employee admitted was sabotage. The bit about the shadowy third parties is entirely conjecture at this point.
Can you cite a post here demonstrating what you're talking about?
It's a fine line you can't just come out and defame your rivals but you need to say something otherwise it just looks like Tesla is mismanaged and the employees are miserable.
I honestly can't even come up with a comparable example of real life corporate sabotage. Especially not at the public company level.
The first page had people making comments w/r/t it being a paid job by companies who want them to fail.
My big concern to validity of this is that no one has dug up charges yet and the perfectly crafted email.
It was discovered this weekend. When would you expect charges?
You realize if it became a dis-qualifier to constantly post positive things about any one specific company and question their competition then then games side would not be very long for this world.
If this same standard was applied everywhere on Era, we would have a quarter of the forum banned. You know this.
This story is getting both uglier and more contentious:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ls-hunt-for-saboteurs/?utm_term=.7500c06884cc
Musk/Tesla claims the employee was a saboteur/spy.
The employee claims he was a whistleblower who was leaking significant concerns.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ls-hunt-for-saboteurs/?utm_term=.7500c06884cc
Musk/Tesla claims the employee was a saboteur/spy.
The employee claims he was a whistleblower who was leaking significant concerns.
If there is any proof of Tipp's allegations, its time for Tesla to move on from Musk.
Honestly, I could be entirely wrong, but it kind of looks like Tesla's trying to smear the guy more than anything. It's quite the serious crime they are accusing him of and their statements paint him as a looney that didn't get along with his coworkers, didn't like his job, and was mad that he got passed over for a promotion. Also, Musk has been pretty off-edge lately and it is hard to take him seriously when he goes off on a tangent like this. Again, this guy could be some sort of spy trying to sell data, but that just sounds really hard to believe given the circumstances.
If I'm understanding it all right, it sounds like they are accusing him of espionage, trying to sell company secrets for money while he claims he was trying to leak environmental/safety concerns. Earlier in the month, Business Insider published an article about this and it now seems like Tripp was the source they mention several times in the article. I guess my main train of thought is that if he was stealing company secrets like they claim why was he going to the press sourcing concerns? At one point the article talks about the punctured batteries and how Tesla originally said they weren't used in any vehicles, then the article mentions that they may have been placed into vehicles and Tesla's response doesn't quite deny it, only sidesteps it. I saw discussion for the article over on the Tesla subreddit and it seems like everybody has the chopping block out for the guy, believing that Tesla is completely in the right here despite their reputation for honesty not being the best at times.
http://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-model-3-scrap-waste-high-gigafactory-2018-5
If I'm understanding it all right, it sounds like they are accusing him of espionage, trying to sell company secrets for money while he claims he was trying to leak environmental/safety concerns. Earlier in the month, Business Insider published an article about this and it now seems like Tripp was the source they mention several times in the article. I guess my main train of thought is that if he was stealing company secrets like they claim why was he going to the press sourcing concerns? At one point the article talks about the punctured batteries and how Tesla originally said they weren't used in any vehicles, then the article mentions that they may have been placed into vehicles and Tesla's response doesn't quite deny it, only sidesteps it. I saw discussion for the article over on the Tesla subreddit and it seems like everybody has the chopping block out for the guy, believing that Tesla is completely in the right here despite their reputation for honesty not being the best at times.
http://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-model-3-scrap-waste-high-gigafactory-2018-5
Wow, sounds like they had a massive internal hunt for the person that would have access to that sort of information and found him. Elon taking it personally and communicating with the guy makes it seem that way as well.
I just woke up so I could be misinterpreting something here but the article you've linked is from early June.
According to Electrek Tesla sued Martin Tripp for:
So basically Business Insider got the (according to Tesla) false leaked info from Tripp and wrote that article. Seems a little disingenuous to use that info as your argument against Tesla until this has been cleared up.
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How do you know the info is false? Business Insider claims to have been given logs somehow showing that these batteries were put in cars. Obviously that is not proof of anything (we don't know exactly what those logs say, or if they have been faked), but to just instantly assume that the information is false because Tesla denies it is a bit odd to me.
I was referring to Tesla's claim that the info is false. Could have made that clearer.