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More_Badass

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Oct 25, 2017
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Ghostland was extremely good psychological horror. I like how the first half of the movie was confusing me and how the second half became intense, disturbing and brutal. And I mean seriously brutal, this is a movie from the same director who made Martyrs so make sure you can deal with violent scenes (aimed at minors on top of that) before watching it
the "living doll" scene was tough to watch
The only scene that I found out of place was
cops dying before helping the girls, couldn't get more cliche, cops die in all horror flicks unless they arrive in the very last scene when they're no longer needed ;)
I really should check out Martyrs again. I didn't quite like it when I saw it, the first half was much more engrossing compared to what the second half became. I certainly didn't see it as one of the best foreign horror movies that it is often praised as. But then again, I had similar feelings about The Shining before rewatching it and really appreciating it

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Pulp Fiction (rewatch)
★★★★½
I didn't enjoy Pulp Fiction as much when I first watched, but by this third watch, it has now become one of my favorite Tarantino movies. Very much a refinement of the ideas in Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction revels in the minutiae and mundanity of criminal life, those unseen moments that thrillers and action movies usually skip over in the lives of scumbags and lowlifes. A conversation between friends, a night out between assignments or a breakfast gone awry, and so on, turning what would be normally be reserved for exposition into colorfully revealing banter that tells us about these characters and their personalities. No one else does at as effortlessly as Tarantino

Reservoir Dogs (rewatch)
★★★★
A heist film without the heist, Reservoir Dogs has all the hallmarks of a Tarantino film without the refinements that would come with Pulp Fiction. The non-chronological story is there but the non-linear formula isn't as elegant as his future films. The chapter structure is there but feels haphazard, flashbacks happening in somewhat jarring fashion. But even with those growing pains, Reservoir Dogs' story of frazzled panicked aftermath and honor among thieves shines where Tarantino's movies always shine: a certain style permeating the movie, bursts and explosions of violence, and that rhythmic back-and-forth dialogue that tells you more about a character than any overt exposition ever could. From the opening diner small talk to the fiery clash of personalities amid bleeding bullet wounds, Reservoir Dogs mines a plethora of drama and tension from its premise.

Django Unchained (rewatch)
★★★★
In many ways, Django feels like Tarantino's most traditional movie. At the very least, it's probably his most straight-forward and crowd-pleasing one. Basterds may have more bodies dropped, but the blood splatters with reckless abandon throughout Django's quest of vengeance and bounty hunting. The references are there, the style is there, the thrilling loquacious conversations are there (particularly by Dicaprio and once again Waltz) but the movie is very much a straight Western adventure, with an easy-to-root-for hero and even-easier-to-hate villains. As a big fan of Westerns, I really like Django Unchained but it does feel like it's missing some of the greyness and grit of his other movies

The Hateful Eight (rewatch)
★★★★
Hateful Eight has lost some of its luster upon rewatch, at least when I'm watching so closely to Tarantino's other movies. In many ways, it's a successor to Tarantino's first film, reminding one of the trapped-in-a-room plot, lies and stories within stories, and harsh brutal men clashing heads and personalities of Reservoir Dogs.

Seeing all these personalities clash, the coiled rattlesnake tension underlining the movie from scene one, and the expectedly great dialogue that comes with all that, still makes Hateful Eight a great watch. But its claustrophobic den of wary distrust isn't quite as tense when you already know who's playing who, and the pay-off in the end just isn't as satisfying as the explosive culminations of Basterds or Django or Dogs, or the character-driven confrontations of Kill Bill and Pulp Fiction.

It's a meaner film too. Which makes sense given the plot and its titular group of violent characters, but it felt gratuitous in ways that Tarantino's past films didn't. Those other films were ridiculously violent no doubt, but even the most explosively bloody violence always felt like it had a foundation in the narrative or in the style of films that Tarantino was paying homage too. The massive battles and fountains of blood in Kill Bill harkened back to samurai films like Sanjuro and Sword of Doom, the flurries of lead and spraying blood of Basterds and Django calling back to the exploitation films that inspired them.

But the violence in Hateful Eight...just kind of happens, and at least one scene late in the movie felt like something that could have been cut entirely without hurting the pacing or plot; the violence and ridiculous amount of blood and gore that erupts feels almost incongruous compared to the rest of movie's dialogue-driven subdued tension.
 
Bao: I was probably the only one in the theater that found this to be pure nightmare fuel nearly the whole way through. A shockingly unpleasant experience from Pixar, despite the clearly good intentions.

Incredibles 2: It's more of The Incredibles, but when your predecessor is a masterpiece of animation, that counts as a major achievement and already puts the film at a level that even original films have no hope of aspiring to. If there was a 14-year gap between films, you'd never feel it from how quickly the film reintegrates you back into the world of the Parrs. It was a risk to have such an immediate followup to the events of the first movie, especially with as long a gap as there was, but it pays off handsomely with an organic continuation that sees the dynamic of the Parrs evolve from where the first film left off, rather than doing the stupid thing that sequels usually do and reset everything back to square one. After his disastrous previous stint in live-action filmmaking, Brad Bird bounces back hard with his efforts here, finding a great balance of action (I have absolutely no issue saying that this is the best superhero action we've seen since... well, the first film), comedy, drama and what have you, and what makes it all the more remarkable is how often all of them are combined into the same scene. It's a smartly written film from beginning to end, and Bird stages each scene as if he's had these ideas floating around in his head for even longer than the gap between films, which may not be that far from the truth with how ambitious he gets here. The only real downside to the film is that, like every sequel, it doesn't get to feel as much of a standalone experience, which does slightly hamper the freshness, but only slightly. This is an otherwise rip-roaring and hilarious film that makes one wonder just what the hell other superhero franchises are doing by settling for merely good, when they should be striving to be as great as this one is.
 

TheBeardedOne

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Neighbors 2 - rewatch -

This was on TV, and I hadn't seen it since it was first out. I didn't love it then and a second viewing made it worse to me. It's not a very good movie.
 

xrnzaaas

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Oct 27, 2017
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Rampage was a surprisingly fun movie (my expectations were very low ;)) and I have to say they did a fine job at masking the fact it's a PG flick. The death toll was pretty high at the end of the movie and some characters died quite horribly (of course The Rock was invincible :D). Monster design was also cool, movie deserved better main villain(s) though.

I really should check out Martyrs again. I didn't quite like it when I saw it, the first half was much more engrossing compared to what the second half became. I certainly didn't see it as one of the best foreign horror movies that it is often praised as. But then again, I had similar feelings about The Shining before rewatching it and really appreciating it
Yep, I'd rewatch at least a few dozen movies if I only had more time. I find most of the ones I rewatch to be better than I remembered. Maybe I'm more forgiving or maybe my taste has changed over the years. :)
 

Blader

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Oct 27, 2017
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Through A Glass Darkly
Wasn't sure where this was going at first, and it drags a bit for the first half, but it ends as a really engrossing and disturbing depiction of mental illness. Harriet Andersson is fantastic; much as I liked her in Summer with Monika and Smiles of a Summer Night, she shows a depth of talent in this movie that those other two performances didn't even hint at her having. Max von Sydow and Gunnar Björnstrand are strong supporting players, particularly the latter's sad sack dad performance (uh, Happy Father's Day). I guess the one thing I struggle with this film, other than Minus being a little shit, is that Bergman's attempt at exploring God and faith feels kind of shallow and shoehorned into the film; it feels only tenuously linked to Karin's schizophrenia, and really only works when Karin herself is talking about her hallucinations rather than anyone else waxing about about whether there is or isn't a God. Good film overall though.
8/10


Also - Most anticipated for the rest of the year:
  • Sorry to Bother You
  • Mission Impossible: Fallout
  • BlacKKKlansman
  • First Man
  • Suspiria
  • Creed II
  • Widows
  • Roma
  • Under the Silver Lake
  • Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
  • The Other Side of the Wind (more so for the making-of doc, though)
 

Yams

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Oct 25, 2017
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This is why Sculli can't be trusted

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Rhomega

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Mirai is Japanese for "future", so it's Future of the Future.

John Wick
: I was encouraged to watch this after listening to the recent Show Me The Meaning podcast on it. Sure, you got a ruthless killer, but it also does a great job with exposition, with natural dialogue and showing you what it means rather than outright telling you. There's still plenty of fancy gunplay and fights. John is very skilled, but he's not perfect either, so he's not a Boring Invincible Hero. Glad I finally got around to seeing it.

This also makes the 40th movie I've seen that was made in 2014.
 

Blader

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Oct 27, 2017
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I totally spaced on Hosoda coming out with a new movie this year.

I see he's still on his furry kick, though
 

ArmsofSleep

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Oct 27, 2017
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Now check out her other stuff!

Varda is da god, love that woman. I hope everyone else voted Faces Places in the best films of 2017 voting thread last year.

Fire Walk With Me where I've discovered my affection for the movie has grown significantly with every viewing to where it has many of my favorite Twin Peaks moments and is indespiensible. I might have once thought it was unneccessry but that couldn't be further from my current truth.

It's one of the best movies of the 90s. So so so good. I feel sorry for people who are closed off to it because of Twin Peaks fandom.


Anyways Incredibles 2 was fine, sort a mess of a final act but the action pieces are predictably stellar, I just want Brad Bird to get another live action shot.
 

Messofanego

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Oct 25, 2017
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I got tricked with the subject matter of Hereditary. I was expecting a film about family secrets, repression, grief, mental illness, and intergenerational trauma. Could've been an awesome mix of It Follows and The Babadook. The editing, sound design, and cinematography are masterful. The motifs are memorable. The shot compositions of the scares are great, and it was fun watching my fiance and the audience jump at moments. The opening shot is amazing, made me want to find out how they did it. I was hoping the film would go more into the psychology of the characters, especially the dad, explaining why they react the way they do. Turns out that was all a lead up to a generic horror plotline that is below such a beautifully crafted film focused on performances, tension, and anxieties. Only Toni Collette's character is fully explored in depth while the rest are undercooked. She deserves awards for her performance. Can easily recommend watching this just because of the audiovisual feast and will follow whatever Ari Aster does next, but I was a bit disappointed.
 

Mi goreng

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I got tricked with the subject matter of Hereditary. I was expecting a film about family secrets, repression, grief, mental illness, and intergenerational trauma. Could've been an awesome mix of It Follows and The Babadook. The editing, sound design, and cinematography are masterful. The motifs are memorable. The shot compositions of the scares are great, and it was fun watching my fiance and the audience jump at moments. The opening shot is amazing, made me want to find out how they did it. I was hoping the film would go more into the psychology of the characters, especially the dad, explaining why they react the way they do. Turns out that was all a lead up to a generic horror plotline that is below such a beautifully crafted film focused on performances, tension, and anxieties. Only Toni Collette's character is fully explored in depth while the rest are undercooked. She deserves awards for her performance. Can easily recommend watching this just because of the audiovisual feast and will follow whatever Ari Aster does next, but I was a bit disappointed.

Felt largely the same way. It's a bit of a shame that it went in the generic horror direction as everything else was done so well.
 

TheBeardedOne

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Oct 27, 2017
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Kidnap -

It was more brutal than I had expected, but otherwise it was as the trailers suggested. I enjoyed it for what it was and found it better than I had invisioned it.
 

lordxar

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hereditary shits all over Babadook and It Follows.

Out of those three? It Follows, Babadook and a distant third is Hereditary. I laughed at far too many things in Hereditary.

Edit: what I find interesting is that horror fans seem pretty split on Hereditary. The movie is pretty mediocre to me but a lot of other hardcore horror fans seem to like it.
 
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It's not hard to shit on Babadook though. That movie is very overrated and doesn't deliver.

It Follows was good, though Hereditary was maybe better (to me as well)

Yeah, Babadook is definitely the worst. Great premise sacrificed for dopey symbolism. It Follows isn't nearly as bad, but what a shitty third act.

In comparison, Hereditary feels like it actually had a script that went through a series of revisions.
 

Fancy Clown

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Oct 25, 2017
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In terms of the poster boys of the nu "art horror" renaissance:

The Witch>>>Hereditary>>>It Follows>Babadook

And I'd slip The Wailing in behind The Witch if we include international stuff
 

Fruit&Nut

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IT FOLLOWS didn't quite get the ecstatic praise that Babadook and now Hereditary is getting.

A lot of people like how Babadook balances everything. Like you can legitimately read that movie in two different ways. Hereditary has a very similar thing going on.

For me HEREDITARY is the best of the lot and the best horror movie of the decade. It's more shocking, unpredictable, and also has the best craft. Dude who made it is a master.

Although, I didn't see Babadook in the theater so that may color my perspective. But god damn. Hereditary is just phenomenal. I really like IT FOLLOWS as well, but it's just not quite as perfect and brilliant as Hereditary is.

My friend actually writes scripts for a living, specialising in horror scirpts. He's worked on sequels and all sorts of stuff, nothing big. But he reckons Babadook is an amazing movie, and considers it much better than IT FOLLOWS. I do think Babadook is more scary and dreadful movie, and probably a better all around horror movie.
 

More_Badass

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For me, it's Hereditary > The Witch > The Eyes of My Mother > Raw > The Transfiguration > The Babadook > It Follows > A Dark Song > The Blackcoat's Daughter > The Killing of a Sacred Deer
 

Fruit&Nut

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For me, it's Hereditary > The Witch > The Eyes of My Mother > Raw > The Transfiguration > The Babadook > It Follows > A Dark Song > The Blackcoat's Daughter > The Killing of a Sacred Deer

Interesting. I haven't even heard of half of those movies. Will have to check them out.

Yeah, Hereditary is top of the class for me as well. I think it's going to be the first horror movie I will revisit in a theater. It's one of the best movies I've seen this year. Really blew me away.

Homebound is a good, more light horror movie. I really thought it was good. Have you seen it?
 

SugarNoodles

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Nov 3, 2017
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I watched Doctor Strange with a friend on Saturday because we both need to catch up on Marvel movies.


There was a lot that I liked about it. Really cool visual effects, and really conscise and to the point with action sequences. I will say that the whole "this isn't about you" lesson is a bit hard to make meaningful when the main character is struggling between having an easy life or saving the entire universe from the ultimate cosmic evil.

What really dragged the movie down was what seemed to be a last minute insertion of the infinity stone. It's like they made the entire movie, then inserted 2 extra scenes and revised the final battle so that the time stone could be a part of the movie. It's hard to take the ultimate cosmic evil seriously when it's like the only villain in existence that doesn't seem to understand the concept of suffering. I give Strange 10 more minutes before he cracks in that situation. 2 minutes if the deaths aren't quick and merciful.
 

lazybones18

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Oct 25, 2017
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Pom Poko (Ghibli Fest 2018)

Before the movie started playing, there was a "In Remembrance" shot of Isao Takahata which I thought was a nice touch. I do wonder if they'll do the same thing when they show Grave of the Fireflies in a few months. As for the movie itself, I loved it. Lots of humor and you really do feel sorry for the raccoons. Try as they might, they can never win :(

One aspect that I really enjoyed while watching this was not the transformations themselves, but the different appearances of the raccoons. From their real life appearances; to how they look throughout most of the movie (free-balling and all); to how they look when they celebrate after a brief victory; to even how they look when they get hit (like almost a crude drawing of a raccoon). To go with so many different appearances for just one animal is interesting and really elevates the charm of the movie.

I personally can't wait to see Grave of the Fireflies in a few months.
 

waffleboy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Saw California Split (6/10), the second of my pick three get three from February picked by Borgnine. Altman's been hit or miss for me, and while it wasn't repulsive like MASH, I still felt nothing while watching it. Except for the ending, which made me reevaluate the whole film and warm up to it, which is a exactly what happened with Thoroughbreds.anya Taylor Joy is a pretty alien
 

Borgnine

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Saw California Split (6/10), the second of my pick three get three from February picked by Borgnine. Altman's been hit or miss for me, and while it wasn't repulsive like MASH, I still felt nothing while watching it. Except for the ending, which made me reevaluate the whole film and warm up to it, which is a exactly what happened with Thoroughbreds.anya Taylor Joy is a pretty alien

Looking forward to your Ordet review in late 2019.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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California Split is soooooo good. Altman is the king of the 70s.

MASH, McCabe & Mrs Miller, The Long Goodbye, California Split, Nashville, and 3 Women in a 7 year span. Godly.
 

Cripplegate

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Oct 27, 2017
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Let the Sunshine In (7/10) - I don't know why this keeps getting billed as (a French arthouse take on) a romantic comedy, when it has nothing to do with that genre or is in any way funny. I guess people really just don't know what to do with Claire Denis films sometimes. I'll agree with the forming consensus that it's a minor work, though. I enjoyed it, but this is far from the best work Denis has done, recently or otherwise. One hell of an ending, though, with some amusing cameos.

Won't You Be My Neighbor? (6/10) - I'm not convinced Morgan Neville has actually done anything here. It was good, I got emotional, and I cried at the end. But that's the same experience I have every time I watch old clips of Mister Rogers' Neighborhood on youtube. It's as bog-standard as documentaries get, and it finally occurred to me what Neville was (not) doing when there were a couple shots of trolleys used as transitional footage. And that was the only original footage in the whole film (not counting all the talking head interviews, obviously). That's the kind of incredible work you can expect from this film: Neville decided he was going to make a documentary about Fred Rogers, grabbed a camera, went out and got some footage of a trolley, then presumably went and grabbed an early lunch. But, hey, it's 90 minutes of Fred Rogers, and you're gonna cry, so go see it in the theatres if you can; it's not every day you can sit with a hundred other people and just let it all out. Genuinely cathartic.

The Strange Thing About the Johnsons (1.5/10) - That's gonna be a no from me, dawg.

Oh Willy... (7/10) - I saw this linked earlier in the thread so shout-out to CloudWolf ; it was pretty good, but didn't completely blow me away or anything. I thought it actually dragged a bit getting from Point A (the mother dies at the beginning) to Point B (everything on the mountain at the end, no spoilers), but Point A+B are so strong I still enjoyed it quite a bit. The animation itself did completely blow me away, though. All that felt work was super impressive, and there are some individual shots and sceneries that were astonishing. Also, and I know this will sound weird/morbid, but that was the fucking funniest goat murder I've ever seen.

Beast (4.5/10) - An A for effort, I guess. It's not a bad debut, but it's really confused about what it wants to accomplish. It's based on a true crime story, but reduces its specific details to familiar genre clichés. It ignores opportunities to mine thematic material in order to preserve the banal mysteries of its two lingering questions (did she try to kill her old classmate, or was it self-defense? is her new boyfriend a serial killer, or wrongly accused?). The first question flattens any psychological complexity, since the girl's entire character becomes a game of narrative keep-away. The second question renders just about everything pointless, because in order to generate and sustain over an hour of tension, we need to believe that the new boyfriend COULD be a serial killer, even if he isn't; as such, the film stacks the deck against him, making sure he's still, you know, a terrible human being. By the time the plot has twisted and turned through more false endings than The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (an exaggeration, obviously; or is it!?), I had long since given the fuck up. Good performances, though! There is a lot of obvious talent on display. Better luck next time.

The Longest Nite (4/10) - If I was Johnnie To, I'd have punched Wai Ka-fai in the face so fucking hard for revealing that I ghost directed this shit. It's embarrassing. The plot is convoluted and inane (an unseen crime lord plans everything to the nth degree, including impossible contrivances), the sound mixing is terrible (surprisingly, considering Johnnie To directed it, cough, cough), and there's just a lot of poor directing and editing throughout. Also, there are only two female characters in the whole thing: one gets naked, the other pukes everywhere (what was this subplot, seriously?) and repeatedly gets the shit kicked out of her. Cool! Points for the random as fuck Giorgio Moroder cues, though (did Milkyway pay for that shit?). Literally the best thing about the movie. Fun but useless trivia: If you google this film right now, google will try to throw up pictures of the cast but replace Tony Leung with Toby Leung for some inexplicable reason. Go home, google algorithms, you're drunk.
 
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CloudWolf

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Oh Willy... (7/10) - I saw this linked earlier in the thread so shout-out to CloudWolf ; it was pretty good, but didn't completely blow me away or anything. I thought it actually dragged a bit getting from Point A (the mother dies at the beginning) to Point B (everything on the mountain at the end, no spoilers), but Point A+B are so strong I still enjoyed it quite a bit. The animation itself did completely blow me away, though. All that felt work was super impressive, and there are some individual shots and sceneries that were astonishing. Also, and I know this will sound weird/morbid, but that was the fucking funniest goat murder I've ever seen.
If you liked that one, I can also recommend Edmond, which is a lovely 9,5 minute graduation film that was influenced pretty heavily by Oh Willy's style.
 

ViewtifulJC

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Oct 25, 2017
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Incredibles 2 flounders around for an idea to hang its narrative on, a theme that will resonate, or some significant way to grow its cast of characters, but never really finds it the way the Toy Story sequels' existential crisis do. The story is at best, redundant, and at worse, simply antic. The lack of arc for 2 hours dampens my enthusiasm and potential replayabliity.

And yet, as a popcorn movie built to give its audience spectacle and sensation, I doubt they'll be a better one this year. Its an impeccably designed film, like Catherine Keener's clothes to her amazing Goldfinger escape plane, and the many wondrous sounds and colors that are incredibly well-lit. Its comedy relief is actually funny, and the action set pieces are all cleverly conceived, expertly composed, thrillingly shot, and trimumpthly scored by Michael Giacchino. It has many likable characters, well-drawn and confidently performed, and even if the material they're working with isn't the best, its simply a joy to be there with them. Moreover, these characters exist in a world that seems coherent, and well thought through, making it even easier to get absorbed watching it.

Not, I think, a match for the original, but my favorite Pixar film since Toy Story 3 and clearly the Hollywood blockbuster of the year to beat.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Incredibles 2 flounders around for an idea to hang its narrative on, a theme that will resonate, or some significant way to grow its cast of characters, but never really finds it the way the Toy Story sequels' existential crisis do. The story is at best, redundant, and at worse, simply antic. The lack of arc for 2 hours dampens my enthusiasm and potential replayabliity.

And yet, as a popcorn movie built to give its audience spectacle and sensation, I doubt they'll be a better one this year. Its an impeccably designed film, like Catherine Keener's clothes to her amazing Goldfinger escape plane, and the many wondrous sounds and colors that are incredibly well-lit. Its comedy relief is actually funny, and the action set pieces are all cleverly conceived, expertly composed, thrillingly shot, and trimumpthly scored by Michael Giacchino. It has many likable characters, well-drawn and confidently performed, and even if the material they're working with isn't the best, its simply a joy to be there with them. Moreover, these characters exist in a world that seems coherent, and well thought through, making it even easier to get absorbed watching it.

Not, I think, a match for the original, but my favorite Pixar film since Toy Story 3 and clearly the Hollywood blockbuster of the year to beat.
Good point about the emotional conflict or lack thereof. I think they could have done more to show strain on the marriage given the role reversal. They used it for humor but it could have been used for more than that. Maybe that's where I gave it the 4 out of 5 instead of the original, which I consider superior.
 

Rhomega

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Hereditary: I got wary when this got compared to Rosemary's Baby and The Witch, which I didn't care all that much for, but this movie was amazing. From beginning to end, I was always wondering what would happen next. It's tense and has scares at the right times. I also love psychological horror. I do have further thoughts, but I'll leave that for the spoiler thread.

The Incredibles 2: Excellent follow-up to the original and feels like you can watch one right after the other. I don't like the villain as much as Syndrome, and yeah, the family focus feels imbalanced. It feels more like something out of the late 1960s than the first movie did, which I liked, The new superheroes are cool (especially Voyd, who would fit in perfectly at Aperture Science). Still plenty of good fights while giving good reasons to not have the whole family in until the 3rd act.
 

lordxar

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What do people here think of Five Easy Pieces?
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When I watched this, I wasn't exactly...how you say, in the mood. My letterboxd entry talks about it being a complete downer with Nicholson being a total ass without his usual fun replies. So it was a miss for me. Might be pretty effective at what it does, I just didn't care for it.
 

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Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom

It's a mess. An entertaining mess, no doubt, but still a mess of a movie that has so many plot threads happening it fails to really have a big impact to make one great. Some are decent, but none of it really comes together. It's as if the writers had a lot of ideas, put them in a pot and drew seven out and forced them together to work. It's one thing to have a lot of plot threads happening, it's another if a good chunk of them seem to not meld well and the movie ends up feeling like two (or three) movies in one.

The result is something that never quite feels satisfactory. The emotional beats, the moments of reflection, the character drama or even a sense of "yeah!" when a bad guy you've been wanting to die for a while finally dies never takes a moment to pause and allow you to enjoy it because you're distracted with three other things going on. It's all just part of that big melding pot and none of those beats hit. It just charges through them like a dino stampede, the taught pacing of even the first three films (yeah, they at least get those things right in JP2 and JP3) is long gone in favor of just playing to visual delights and not really connecting on any other level with an audience.

The movie is great, spectacle, however. From small scale to large, to it's credit it looks good and has wonderful set pieces despite having little to break it up as it goes along. It crams a lot into its two hours, but it also feels way longer than that two hours due to sudden shifts in plot, focus and even tone (as if it wants to be tongue in cheek but never quite gets there). Actors, mostly, just deliver lines with little to no conviction, there's no sense of personality to our main leads despite some ok chemistry when the movie stops once in a while to have them banter.

What's worse, though, is that I'm not really sure if I like where the Jurassic series is heading. There's a set up for future movies and it all seems just too big for its own good. There's high concept, but then there's way-out-of-left-field and I'm not sure if they can pull it off, much less if I'd be up to sit and watch it.

2/5
 
Revenge (2017): A ridiculously fun rape-revenge film with a fair bit on its mind?! Such terms are diametrically opposed, but somehow, some way, writer-director Coralie Fargeat manages to find the right balance of gritty and violent action, super stylish aesthetic and enough care put into how it depicts its central female character during her ordeal and eventual bloody catharsis. Deep, it ain't, but there's a lot of care put into Jen and how the audience engages with her in every frame that she's in, to the point where the leeriness of the eventual attackers feeds right into the framing choices early on and, in an all too rare moment for the genre, the rape scene itself being more suggestive than explicit. The film opens up, considerably, once we're past that nasty bit of business, though I did appreciate that instead of going completely off the rails with Jen's eventual rampage from the jump, we get a gradual build-up with her going from man to man, revealing both a far more resourceful and intelligent victim than these guys could have ever imagined, helped tremendously by Matilda Lutz's (hopefully) star-making performance, as well as Fargeat's skill at knowing when to hit the gas for when things get really crazy. The feminist leanings of the film are practically screaming at you (and quite literally in the film's final line of dialogue), and while it's rewarding to see someone out there engaging with those elements without demeaning women at the same time, the fact that it's also a very, very good exploitation genre film is also a critical factor to its success, as it takes all the good elements of this particular sub-genre while throwing out all the bad ones. Sure, it's flashy to an at times obnoxious degree, but it's also surprisingly playful with some of the visual touches that come into play later with the comeuppances that make you smile when they circle back around. Throw in an unsurprisingly excellent score from genre composer extraordinaire Rob and one of the most blood-soaked and insane final showdowns out there, and you've got yourself a complete package. This is the rare film about an ugly subject that satisfies the genre fan in all of us while still going down much easier than many of its counterparts, and for a film that's kinda stupid, it winds up being pretty damn smart.
 

Atraveller

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Oct 25, 2017
3,308
What's worse, though, is that I'm not really sure if I like where the Jurassic series is heading. There's a set up for future movies and it all seems just too big for its own good. There's high concept, but then there's way-out-of-left-field and I'm not sure if they can pull it off, much less if I'd be up to sit and watch it.
The movie wielded a cookie-cutter progressiveness (that made no sense if you think about it) as the characters' morals and goal, and at no time was I on board. And then the movie used another out-of-nowhere messaged to push for an ending that was utterly stupid. The only character in Jurassic Universe that had his wits about him was Jeff Goldblum, and he was in it for 5 minutes.
 

Messofanego

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
26,070
UK
Revenge (2017): A ridiculously fun rape-revenge film with a fair bit on its mind?! Such terms are diametrically opposed, but somehow, some way, writer-director Coralie Fargeat manages to find the right balance of gritty and violent action, super stylish aesthetic and enough care put into how it depicts its central female character during her ordeal and eventual bloody catharsis. Deep, it ain't, but there's a lot of care put into Jen and how the audience engages with her in every frame that she's in, to the point where the leeriness of the eventual attackers feeds right into the framing choices early on and, in an all too rare moment for the genre, the rape scene itself being more suggestive than explicit. The film opens up, considerably, once we're past that nasty bit of business, though I did appreciate that instead of going completely off the rails with Jen's eventual rampage from the jump, we get a gradual build-up with her going from man to man, revealing both a far more resourceful and intelligent victim than these guys could have ever imagined, helped tremendously by Matilda Lutz's (hopefully) star-making performance, as well as Fargeat's skill at knowing when to hit the gas for when things get really crazy. The feminist leanings of the film are practically screaming at you (and quite literally in the film's final line of dialogue), and while it's rewarding to see someone out there engaging with those elements without demeaning women at the same time, the fact that it's also a very, very good exploitation genre film is also a critical factor to its success, as it takes all the good elements of this particular sub-genre while throwing out all the bad ones. Sure, it's flashy to an at times obnoxious degree, but it's also surprisingly playful with some of the visual touches that come into play later with the comeuppances that make you smile when they circle back around. Throw in an unsurprisingly excellent score from genre composer extraordinaire Rob and one of the most blood-soaked and insane final showdowns out there, and you've got yourself a complete package. This is the rare film about an ugly subject that satisfies the genre fan in all of us while still going down much easier than many of its counterparts, and for a film that's kinda stupid, it winds up being pretty damn smart.
I thought it was pretty interesting that the director had the character not bother to get covered up with the men's clothes and continue with the confidence of just a top and underwear, and she's never ogled by the camera. Really nailing that female Rambo vibe.
 

hotcyder

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Oct 28, 2017
2,861
Hereditary: Best Film I've seen this year bar none. Incredibly competent mix of Mumblecore and Satanic Horror. Toni Collette sells it.

Oceans 8: Fine? A pretty solid remixing of the previous Oceans films held together by a pretty excellent cast. I wish that maybe everyone had some more time to develop and that everything didn't feel so flawless. I would see another Oceans film with the cast.

Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom: Easily the worst film this years and the worst Blockbuster I've seen in a long time. Boring, Bland and utterly devoid of the Spectacle and Horror that made Jurassic Park a classic. Climaxes after the first 20 minutes and has an introduction to a more interesting movie 30 minutes before the end.
Saving grace was the genetically engineered Dino who felt like the animators and crew figuring out the fun of a Super Smart Predator.
Colin Trevorrow needs to be taken off the material. They need to stop miscasting Pratt in a role written for The Rock.

This year's current hotcyder Besties:
Hereditary
Game Night
Annihilation

Keen on seeing Incredibles 2 and Upgrade when they drop in the UK
 
I thought it was pretty interesting that the director had the character not bother to get covered up with the men's clothes and continue with the confidence of just a top and underwear, and she's never ogled by the camera. Really nailing that female Rambo vibe.
Yeah, it's little things like that that elevates the film. Same as that little (hee hee) detail of how frequently Richard uses his gun to cover up his genitals.