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I got the feeling and went in for a kiss but she kinda shy'd away. She seemed nervous. Then I had my arm around her and she also then put a little distance but it was a seperate situation.

Ugh, I feel like I fucked up somehow... did I ? >_< fuck everything. Stupid shit.
 

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I can't shake the feeling of Earthbound either trolling us or his 'girlfriend' trolling him.

For the sake of love I hope I am wrong though.
 

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I got the feeling and went in for a kiss but she kinda shy'd away. She seemed nervous. Then I had my arm around her and she also then put a little distance but it was a seperate situation.

Ugh, I feel like I fucked up somehow... did I ? >_< fuck everything. Stupid shit.

Don't overthink it. It could be a number of things for her.

I've given this advice here before and stand by it.

Don't be afraid to simply say 'I'm going to give you a kiss goodbye now if that's ok' or 'can I give you a kiss goodbye' when a date is ending. You get a lot of visual and verbal feedback on the whole situation if a kiss hasn't yet come naturally.
 

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I asked about this in the previous thread in the previous forum, but is there one dating app that stands out of the others in regards to finding people that share you're mutual interests?

I never considered it a requirement in order to date someone, but I think being with someone who shares my same interests (games, anime, superhero movies and comics, etc) means that I would be more willing to have extended conversations with them. That was the main problem with my last date: we shared a physical interest but not much in regards to shared interests. She also complained that I didn't text her enough, even though I didn't have anything in particular to share during the work mornings.

So, wondering what my best chance is to find people who share my interests.
 

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That was OKCupid for me but it's turning so Tinderish that the profile essays will be gone eventually.

Tinder is the only thing I use anymore, and it's built entirely around "hot or not" for me.

The profiles always read the damn same. Blah blah swipe left if you so on my dogs are my kids etc
 

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I asked about this in the previous thread in the previous forum, but is there one dating app that stands out of the others in regards to finding people that share you're mutual interests?

I never considered it a requirement in order to date someone, but I think being with someone who shares my same interests (games, anime, superhero movies and comics, etc) means that I would be more willing to have extended conversations with them. That was the main problem with my last date: we shared a physical interest but not much in regards to shared interests. She also complained that I didn't text her enough, even though I didn't have anything in particular to share during the work mornings.

So, wondering what my best chance is to find people who share my interests.
Not really. At best, you could find someone whose profile (on apps that have profiles, like OKCupid) lists those things; but I want to state -- again -- that looking for the mythical anime gamergirl isn't a great strategy. A few sparse shared interests do not make a relationship. But if you want a surefire way to meet those people, you could try meetups focused around those interests. Mind you, meetups aren't dating apps; you could find someone who's single there, or perhaps you could make new friends who've got single friends.

Also, there's something to be said for introducing potential partners to what you're passionate about. I mean, my girlfriend plays Borderlands and cosplayed as one of the characters, but she's apparently uninterested in all other games. (I will, however, get her to try Mario Kart or something.) But if she doesn't want to do that or she doesn't like it, that's completely fine: we've got other interests and they don't need to overlap.

The most important things in relationships are compatibility in communication styles, the ability to successfully and civilly resolve differences and disagreements, and (imo) mutual attraction.
 

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Hi Everyone,

Long time lurker! First time poster. I'll get straight to the point. Thanks in advance for reading.

I've been dating this girl, lets call her Kay, for a month and half, it's been serious (exclusive) for about a month. It's my first real relationship in about four years. I was cheated on in my last relationship and it left me with some pretty damaging trust issues.
I like Kay because she seems so kind and trustworthy and overall like a good person. We also have tons of fun together, enjoy good sex life, and work as a team real well. Overall solid relationship so far.

Here's the story:

So Kay has this friend, lets call him Paul. They've been friends for about two years, really good friends for about a year. Paul has been going through tough times, what sounds like pretty severe depression. Kay has been really trying to help Paul out, letting him know that someone cares, asking him how he's doing, trying to get him to open up, getting him to come out to events, etc. You know, normal friends stuff. I can see Kay cares a lot about Paul's well being, and after seeing some of the stuff that Paul texts her, I can also see that Paul needs it (no friends, tough childhood, got dealt kind of a bad hand in life it seems like). I like that Kay is a caring person overall, always going above and beyond to help her friends (both male and female if that matters).

So Paul invites Kay to his parent's house for thanksgiving. Kay asks me if that's okay and I'm like "Yeah cool! It sounds like Paul's breaking down some walls, go ahead", I'm glad he's making some positive steps in his life and that she gets to be a part of it.

A couple weeks later, her and Paul are talking and she casually reveals that she's dating someone. Paul abruptly ends the friendship, citing that their closeness is "emotional cheating" and that they can't be close like that. It's a whole thing . She shows me his texts and I think "Okay, that seems like an overreaction. It seems like Paul has some warped assumptions about how male-female friendships work, but y'know you can't change the way he sees the world." It sucks for Kay since their such good friends, but she gets over it with time. Obviously, she's not going to his house anymore for thanksgiving.

Here is where things get tough:

Some nights ago, we're talking about past relationships. I ask Kay about past crushes, she revealed to me that during the summer she had a crush (which is a big deal, since she really doesn't develop feelings for people very often) on Paul. Furthermore, that she and him hooked up a few times over the summer.

This hurts and feels like a big betrayal. She knows that I have trust issues. That's why she asked how I felt about it and asked for my permission, but she did this under completely false pretenses about their relationship. Normally, that type of relationship is something she would tell me immediately and be upfront about, but she actively construed it to make it seem like something else. From my perspective at the time, they were close friends. When in reality, he was a past crush and a past partner. She claims she doesn't have feelings for him anymore, but it's hard to believe because she kept their past a secret. Furthermore, she was going to this guy's house for thanksgiving (what the fuck!?). It also makes their falling out make more sense, he thought their relationship was close enough to "emotional cheating" that he felt like he needed to end their friendship/relationship or whatever you want to call it.

I asked her for more information. She liked him, but he ended things early for trivial reasons. She claims that after that, they became closer because they could be 'just friends', and that she gradually lost feelings for him when we started dating, (this makes sense, she was averse to commitment with me near the beginning, which I totally get so we took it slow). He also hit on her a couple times while we were dating, straight up propositioning for sex. She showed me the texts, the first time, she turned him down, claiming she didn't want to get emotionally attached (this was after we decided to be exclusive - no mention of me). The second time, she mentioned that she wouldn't because she was 'semi-dating' the guy (again, after we decided to be exclusive), that second text is what spurred Paul to end the friendship.

ERAnts, I don't know what to do. I feel so distraught over this. I don't think she physically cheated on me (after seeing that she turned him down), but it's definitely a violation of boundaries we set once we started getting serious (we talked about being upfront and honest about these types of things to mitigate my trust issues) - And at multiple points she disregarded our relationship when talking to him. She says that she felt like, based on my trust issues, her relationship with me and her friendship with him are incompatible, and she wanted to have both so she hid their past from me. That's also why she hid the fact that we were dating from him because she knew it would effect the friendship too.

What do? I understand why she did everything she did. She fucked up big time but I think it's something I can forgive. However, I'm not sure I can trust her again, or if I can, how long it will take... Or am I just overreacting to this whole thing!?
 
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Decided to let things go with the Snapchat video girl, she was extremely insecure about herself which made the times I talked with her uncomfortable. But I'm happy we met, she was a kind person with a bright future and I ended up learning a lot about diversity scholarships and PhD chemical biology programs.

Also found a rubber I don't hate (Kimono Orange) while seeing her, so looking forward to better sex than it has been in the past.

Right now I'm talking with a London woman who I hope I can meet when I study abroad in January. She lives on a military base or something so I don't know how that's going to work. lol
 
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I've been dating this girl, lets call her Kay, for a month and half, it's been serious (exclusive) for about a month.

[...]

Some nights ago, we're talking about past relationships. I ask Kay about past crushes, she revealed to me that during the summer she had a crush (which is a big deal, since she really doesn't develop feelings for people very often) on Paul. Furthermore, that she and him hooked up a few times over the summer.

This hurts and feels like a big betrayal.

So you've been dating since the beginning of October...
But something she did over the summer - months before - "feels like a big betrayal"?
No.
 

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I mean, of course I've had plenty of "internet girlfriends" over the past 20 years.
And both before and after my marriage.
But, nothing anywhere even remotely close to this.

Yes, of course we still need to meet in person, and the goal is that we'll be moving in together in the foreseeable future (I know, those are two separate steps. But we've had talks about it anyway).
But, at the very least, so far so good.
Are you part of a very religious community? Otherwise I don't understand considering moving in with someone you've never met AT ALL. Like talk about a gigantic leap! You don't even know if you two click in real life. Establish that first to see if you two have a mutual connection and then think of future plans from there. I don't even get the "internet girlfriend" thing.
 

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Hi Everyone,

Long time lurker! First time poster. I'll get straight to the point. Thanks in advance for reading.

I've been dating this girl, lets call her Kay, for a month and half, it's been serious (exclusive) for about a month. It's my first real relationship in about four years. I was cheated on in my last relationship and it left me with some pretty damaging trust issues.
I like Kay because she seems so kind and trustworthy and overall like a good person. We also have tons of fun together, enjoy good sex life, and work as a team real well. Overall solid relationship so far.

Here's the story:

So Kay has this friend, lets call him Paul. They've been friends for about two years, really good friends for about a year. Paul has been going through tough times, what sounds like pretty severe depression. Kay has been really trying to help Paul out, letting him know that someone cares, asking him how he's doing, trying to get him to open up, getting him to come out to events, etc. You know, normal friends stuff. I can see Kay cares a lot about Paul's well being, and after seeing some of the stuff that Paul texts her, I can also see that Paul needs it (no friends, tough childhood, got dealt kind of a bad hand in life it seems like). I like that Kay is a caring person overall, always going above and beyond to help her friends (both male and female if that matters).

So Paul invites Kay to his parent's house for thanksgiving. Kay asks me if that's okay and I'm like "Yeah cool! It sounds like Paul's breaking down some walls, go ahead", I'm glad he's making some positive steps in his life and that she gets to be a part of it.

A couple weeks later, her and Paul are talking and she casually reveals that she's dating someone. Paul abruptly ends the friendship, citing that their closeness is "emotional cheating" and that they can't be close like that. It's a whole thing . She shows me his texts and I think "Okay, that seems like an overreaction. It seems like Paul has some warped assumptions about how male-female friendships work, but y'know you can't change the way he sees the world." It sucks for Kay since their such good friends, but she gets over it with time. Obviously, she's not going to his house anymore for thanksgiving.

Here is where things get tough:

Some nights ago, we're talking about past relationships. I ask Kay about past crushes, she revealed to me that during the summer she had a crush (which is a big deal, since she really doesn't develop feelings for people very often) on Paul. Furthermore, that she and him hooked up a few times over the summer.

This hurts and feels like a big betrayal. She knows that I have trust issues. That's why she asked how I felt about it and asked for my permission, but she did this under completely false pretenses about their relationship. Normally, that type of relationship is something she would tell me immediately and be upfront about, but she actively construed it to make it seem like something else. From my perspective at the time, they were close friends. When in reality, he was a past crush and a past partner. She claims she doesn't have feelings for him anymore, but it's hard to believe because she kept their past a secret. Furthermore, she was going to this guy's house for thanksgiving (what the fuck!?). It also makes their falling out make more sense, he thought their relationship was close enough to "emotional cheating" that he felt like he needed to end their friendship/relationship or whatever you want to call it.

I asked her for more information. She liked him, but he ended things early for trivial reasons. She claims that after that, they became closer because they could be 'just friends', and that she gradually lost feelings for him when we started dating, (this makes sense, she was averse to commitment with me near the beginning, which I totally get so we took it slow). He also hit on her a couple times while we were dating, straight up propositioning for sex. She showed me the texts, the first time, she turned him down, claiming she didn't want to get emotionally attached (this was after we decided to be exclusive - no mention of me). The second time, she mentioned that she wouldn't because she was 'semi-dating' the guy (again, after we decided to be exclusive), that second text is what spurred Paul to end the friendship.

ERAnts, I don't know what to do. I feel so distraught over this. I don't think she physically cheated on me (after seeing that she turned him down), but it's definitely a violation of boundaries we set once we started getting serious (we talked about being upfront and honest about these types of things to mitigate my trust issues) - And at multiple points she disregarded our relationship when talking to him. She says that she felt like, based on my trust issues, her relationship with me and her friendship with him are incompatible, and she wanted to have both so she hid their past from me. That's also why she hid the fact that we were dating from him because she knew it would effect the friendship too.

What do? I understand why she did everything she did. She fucked up big time but I think it's something I can forgive. However, I'm not sure I can trust her again, or if I can, how long it will take... Or am I just overreacting to this whole thing!?
Paul thought there was a chance for a relationship. Even before I got to the end of your post.
 

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Paul thought there was a chance for a relationship. Even before I got to the end of your post.
Yep. And she kept him as a backup option until she locked things down with the poster in question.

It's not a great look, and she knows it, which is why she deserves some credit for explaining the situation and showing her texts.

Honestly, the longer I've been at this, the more I think that the early stages of dating are simply messy and deserve some understandable leeway. I don't think Kay violated his trust -- unless, after they were exclusive, she kept stringing Paul along. Which she might have. The Thanksgiving thing was a bit weird, but yet she also asked for permission (even though she hadn't disclosed the full story).

Basically, I'd give her a pass for pre-exclusivity conduct, be wary of her interactions with thirsty Paul, and express what boundaries you're comfortable with - and see if she respects them.
 

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Don't overthink it. It could be a number of things for her.

I've given this advice here before and stand by it.

Don't be afraid to simply say 'I'm going to give you a kiss goodbye now if that's ok' or 'can I give you a kiss goodbye' when a date is ending. You get a lot of visual and verbal feedback on the whole situation if a kiss hasn't yet come naturally.

Fuck...

So we are in a restaurant and we start talking... so she tells me about how she got out of a relationship with her ex recently and she wants to help him get over her. Apparently he even asked her to join him in therapy to help him get over her... she said it was weird and she isn't gonna do this but anyways he still writes her and she was sorry for wasting my time... so I guess I got fucked... what the hell? She said she wants to be single... okay? Fuckkkkk what a waste of time, three dates all in four days... Stupid. Anyways she's cute so I'm not offended just a little burned cause she is super cute.
 

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it also sounds you are over-investing this early without meeting. It would be great if you two connect on dates and you're both great for each other to move in

--->

of course we still need to meet in person
Well, it's not like we would actually be doing it for quite some time (probably ~10-11 months).
Obviously there's still a bunch of ground to cover between now and then.
 

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Yes handwave things you don't want to hear.

That's not what I'm doing...
I'm pointing out that saying "It would be great if you two connect on dates and you're both great for each other to move in" is silly when I've already said that I'm going to.

Anyway, I've basically just been repeating back the same stuff since my first couple of replies, so I'll just cut it off now.
Best of luck to everyone.
 

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She mentioned she has an ex a few times before... I'm basically taking a girl mentioning an ex anything during early dates as a sign to bail... she said maybe we could try again in the future... the fuck? I feel bad :( like why?
 
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That's not what I'm doing...
I'm pointing out that saying "It would be great if you two connect on dates and you're both great for each other to move in" is silly when I've already said that I'm going to.

Anyway, I've basically just been repeating back the same stuff since my first couple of replies, so I'll just cut it off now.
Best of luck to everyone.
Have you even Skyped/Facetime yet?
 

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Well yesterday was the one month anniversary of introducing myself to a girl and asking to give her my number. Since then we've been on around 10 dates and it's been great. As I was walking with her yesterday, I turn to her and say "you know, it's been 1 month since I introduced myself to you and I'm still glad I took that chance". She responded with "I'm glad you did too. I'm really glad" and she squeezed my hand. I swear my heart melted just a bit... Next time I see her I will def try and have a talk to define the relationship. When I asked her out the first time, it was because I thought she was pretty. Every subsequent time was because I liked her.

My entire life I've never approached anyone and by taking this chance I may have something good on my hands : )
Well done, PatMan!
 

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I can't help have this feeing like somehow I fucked this up... like if i had kissed her sooner on the first or second date when she was a bit warmer towards me...

You think maybe I waited too late and she is just kinda using this as an excuse?
 

Gotdatmoney

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I can't help have this feeing like somehow I fucked this up... like if i had kissed her sooner on the first or second date when she was a bit warmer towards me...

You think maybe I waited too late and she is just kinda using this as an excuse?

I think you need to let it go.

You got dates, you learned some good things. There is room for improvement obviously. Accept it has happened and use it to grow man.

All this "I fucked it up didn't I" is just not helpful. She doesn't want to do more dates. Forget about her. Move forward.
 

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Fuck...

So we are in a restaurant and we start talking... so she tells me about how she got out of a relationship with her ex recently and she wants to help him get over her. Apparently he even asked her to join him in therapy to help him get over her... she said it was weird and she isn't gonna do this but anyways he still writes her and she was sorry for wasting my time... so I guess I got fucked... what the hell? She said she wants to be single... okay? Fuckkkkk what a waste of time, three dates all in four days... Stupid. Anyways she's cute so I'm not offended just a little burned cause she is super cute.

That sucks mate but don't be too hard on yourself.

I think the fact that she told you face to face probably means it was the truth but you'll find all of the people you meet and dates you go on (both good and bad) will all be worth the experience fornwhen you do meet the right one.

I was dating a cute and (what I thought) sweet girl a while back. Waiting for the third date i got a text 'you're a great guy but I'm not girlfriend material and not ready for this'. I was cut up inside but managed a 'ok thanks' reply. Then she later texted back saying she hopes I wasn't hurt and wanted to stay friends, I replied no thanks and that I was disappointed after two great dates she didn't have the decency to at least call and that a text was not very nice. I then got a 'how dare you accuse me of being rude, I tried to be nice to you and stay friends but screw this, I'm glad I got out of your orbit because you'd just burn me'. (This coming from a medical doctor no less). So apart from dodging a bullet it just shows that people are weird and not to take rejections too hard. We are all different.

And you did well mate. :)
 

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Thanks for the responses everyone!

Paul thought there was a chance for a relationship. Even before I got to the end of your post.

Yeah that makes total sense. I should've realized this sooner even before the whole friendship blowup.

It's not a great look, and she knows it, which is why she deserves some credit for explaining the situation and showing her texts.
Yeah. As much as it sucked to hear she did react to it well. I appreciated her explanations and showing me everything, it certainly seemed like she laid all the cards out on the table which means a lot.

Honestly, the longer I've been at this, the more I think that the early stages of dating are simply messy and deserve some understandable leeway.
Real talk. This really resonated with me. All the emotions that bubble up at the beginnings of relationships are so volatile and messy and outside the realm of the mundane shit we usually deal with that it's hard not to make some mistakes along the way.

I don't think Kay violated his trust -- unless, after they were exclusive, she kept stringing Paul along. Which she might have. The Thanksgiving thing was a bit weird, but yet she also asked for permission (even though she hadn't disclosed the full story).
She did keep stringing Paul along after we decided to be exclusive. Although she doesn't see it like that. She tells me that she has this clear delineation between friends and partners and that she made up her mind that Paul was just a friend somewhere in our relationship. She feels like Paul is just a good friend and because she feels that way it's the truth and that it shouldn't be a big deal for them to be friends. My biggest worry about this whole thing is that there's a gap in between what she thinks she feels and how she actually feels about things and that I'm going to get hurt as a result (I guess that's unrelated though). Either way, Paul is pretty much out of the picture now so...

Basically, I'd give her a pass for pre-exclusivity conduct, be wary of her interactions with thirsty Paul, and express what boundaries you're comfortable with - and see if she respects them.
This is going to be the real test of the relationship seems like.
 

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That sucks mate but don't be too hard on yourself.

I think the fact that she told you face to face probably means it was the truth but you'll find all of the people you meet and dates you go on (both good and bad) will all be worth the experience fornwhen you do meet the right one.

I was dating a cute and (what I thought) sweet girl a while back. Waiting for the third date i got a text 'you're a great guy but I'm not girlfriend material and not ready for this'. I was cut up inside but managed a 'ok thanks' reply. Then she later texted back saying she hopes I wasn't hurt and wanted to stay friends, I replied no thanks and that I was disappointed after two great dates she didn't have the decency to at least call and that a text was not very nice. I then got a 'how dare you accuse me of being rude, I tried to be nice to you and stay friends but screw this, I'm glad I got out of your orbit because you'd just burn me'. (This coming from a medical doctor no less). So apart from dodging a bullet it just shows that people are weird and not to take rejections too hard. We are all different.

And you did well mate. :)

After 2 dates a text isn't really an inappropriate way to stop further communication honestly.
 

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That sucks mate but don't be too hard on yourself.

I think the fact that she told you face to face probably means it was the truth but you'll find all of the people you meet and dates you go on (both good and bad) will all be worth the experience fornwhen you do meet the right one.

I was dating a cute and (what I thought) sweet girl a while back. Waiting for the third date i got a text 'you're a great guy but I'm not girlfriend material and not ready for this'. I was cut up inside but managed a 'ok thanks' reply. Then she later texted back saying she hopes I wasn't hurt and wanted to stay friends, I replied no thanks and that I was disappointed after two great dates she didn't have the decency to at least call and that a text was not very nice. I then got a 'how dare you accuse me of being rude, I tried to be nice to you and stay friends but screw this, I'm glad I got out of your orbit because you'd just burn me'. (This coming from a medical doctor no less). So apart from dodging a bullet it just shows that people are weird and not to take rejections too hard. We are all different.

And you did well mate. :)
She definitely wasn't being rude and it was an overreaction on your end to say she was.
 

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She definitely wasn't being rude and it was an overreaction on your end to say she was.
Agreed. She didn't owe him a phone call. I feel he was the rude one by insisting she call him and saying that her text was "rude". He should've been thankful she didn't ghost him. She felt how she felt, and she communicated that much. She didn't owe him anything beyond that.
 

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She definitely wasn't being rude and it was an overreaction on your end to say she was.
Yep. Perhaps unpopular opinion, but you don't owe anyone anything after one or two dates.

I've had dozens of interactions just fizzle, where scheduling became more and more sporadic or the interest just wasn't there, maybe mutually. Texting just becomes more infrequent until it just stops. Hell, I've had that happen even after more than a handful of dates. Mutual disengagement is an easy way to end things, honestly.
 
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lol if someone texts you after two dates to say they don't want to keep dating you should be pretty fucking thankful they didn't just ghost you in this day and age
 

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Not really. At best, you could find someone whose profile (on apps that have profiles, like OKCupid) lists those things; but I want to state -- again -- that looking for the mythical anime gamergirl isn't a great strategy. A few sparse shared interests do not make a relationship. But if you want a surefire way to meet those people, you could try meetups focused around those interests. Mind you, meetups aren't dating apps; you could find someone who's single there, or perhaps you could make new friends who've got single friends.

Also, there's something to be said for introducing potential partners to what you're passionate about. I mean, my girlfriend plays Borderlands and cosplayed as one of the characters, but she's apparently uninterested in all other games. (I will, however, get her to try Mario Kart or something.) But if she doesn't want to do that or she doesn't like it, that's completely fine: we've got other interests and they don't need to overlap.

The most important things in relationships are compatibility in communication styles, the ability to successfully and civilly resolve differences and disagreements, and (imo) mutual attraction.

Never said anything about finding a game-loving otaku as my future wife. I just thought having a few linked interests would be a good place to start.

And I seriously can't do meet-ups or any avenue when it's unknown whether the person is single and/or open to a relationship. I will occasionally try to strike up dialog with people at work or elsewhere while trying to subtly determine their current status, but it never not feels awkward for me.

But it seems dating apps aren't getting any better. Are any of the paid alternatives worth it? Really not liking how they all seem to hold their most important features hostage ("see who liked you on tinder!").
 

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There is an air of irrationality to your rational behavior. You seem like you know what you're doing, and have considerable experience in relationships, but how long has it been since your marriage ended? What were the terms?

SolmisateSol
That's not really betrayal but she may have misled you because she was afraid of your reaction. If she came forward and there's nothing between them, you should appreciate her honesty and take it confidently that she takes you seriously enough to tell you that.
 

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And I seriously can't do meet-ups or any avenue when it's unknown whether the person is single and/or open to a relationship.

I mean you just ask? Like if you just go to a bar and talk to someone you'll know within 30s if they have a bf. In other venues you just ask for a date after a period of time. You get your answer from there. It's actually not very difficult.

But it seems dating apps aren't getting any better. Are any of the paid alternatives worth it? Really not liking how they all seem to hold their most important features hostage ("see who liked you on tinder!").

They are trying to make money first and foremost. Everything else is second. What you mostly need to focus on is building a profile that works for you. Then it's less important to immediately know who liked you.
 

Heisenburger

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Oct 26, 2017
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Love sucks, had intense relationship that lasted 7 weeks the got dropped like a sack of shit.
It's been nearly 3 weeks now and still feeling shit. Doesn't help she texts me every other day to talk about stuff. clearly missing me.

Not an internet relationship lol.
 

EarthBound64

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Oct 25, 2017
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Earthbound64
There is an air of irrationality to your rational behavior. You seem like you know what you're doing, and have considerable experience in relationships, but how long has it been since your marriage ended? What were the terms?

And that's certainly a fair assessment.
She moved out last December, and the divorce was finalized in January (no children, so fairly easy process)
The terms were, nominally, that she found someone else and decided to move back home and be with him. Realistically, though, I had been mentally checked out from the marriage for years, it was a very bad (abusive) environment, and I was very happy that she finally decided to leave as opposed to me having to be the one to bring it about.