Dark Souls: Remastered |OT| The Dark Souls of remasters

Noema · Jun 20, 2018

Dylan said:
I was going to covert the Great Scythe into either Lightning or Fire so that I wouldn't have to spend all my points in DEX. Not smart?

I don't want to build INT so I was hoping to use the lightning spears as my go-to ranged attack. Bows just don't do it for me.

Elemental damage in this game is weird since it ends up being less than what you'd get on paper since the damage is split, and has to be calculated across two defense values from enemies. I mean, if you wanna go that route it's not going to ruin your game or anything but you'll get less damage than what you'd get from a Dex build.

The problem with Lighting spear is that a) it has shit damage, b) its casting time is obscenely long and c) you have to lock on to an enemy to hit it. I did a faith run and Great Lighting Spear was pretty useless after Sen's. Overall I found faith somewhat lackluster. Heal becomes useless after you get the Rite of Kindling. The Lightning Spears also have low damage. Wrath of the Gods is awesome and so are Darkmoon and Sunlight Blade, but you get those kinda late. At least I didn't have to worry about Homeward Bones.

Might as well get a bow since you'll be putting points into Dex anyway. It's much better than the Spears and can easily be free aimed.

Dylan · Jun 20, 2018

Noema said:
Elemental damage in this game is weird since it ends up being less than what you'd get on paper since the damage is split, and has to be calculated across two defense values from enemies. I mean, if you wanna go that route it's not going to ruin your game or anything but you'll get less damage than what you'd get from a Dex build.

The problem with Lighting spear is that a) it has shit damage, b) its casting time is obscenely long and c) you have to lock on to an enemy to hit it. I did a faith run and Great Lighting Spear was pretty useless after Sen's. Overall I found faith somewhat lackluster. Heal becomes useless after you get the Rite of Kindling. The Lightning Spears also have low damage. Wrath of the Gods is awesome and so are Darkmoon and Sunlight Blade, but you get those kinda late. At least I didn't have to worry about Homeward Bones.

Might as well get a bow since you'll be putting points into Dex anyway. It's much better than the Spears and can easily be free aimed.

Oh man, this seriously puts a damper into my plans. I'm tempted to do it anyway because a lightning throwing Death-scythe carrying priest just seems cool. For some reason I never have success with bows. Either I take way too long to aim my shot and get killed by the enemies ranged attack, or I miss the shot completely. I'm also really bad at effectively switching to and from a bow for some reason. I get discombobulated.

Dylan · Jun 20, 2018

Another weird question; I'm purposely avoiding the bonfires in the catacombs because I noticed there's no ladder to get back up to Firelink. I'm planning on using a homeword bone to get back. Is this dumb?

Also, is there any advantage to lighting a bonfire without resting at it? I'm paranoid to even light them in case they make me stuck down there with the skeleton brigade.

Noema · Jun 20, 2018

Dylan said:
Oh man, this seriously puts a damper into my plans. I'm tempted to do it anyway because a lightning throwing Death-scythe carrying priest just seems cool. For some reason I never have success with bows. Either I take way too long to aim my shot and get killed by the enemies ranged attack, or I miss the shot completely. I'm also really bad at effectively switching to and from a bow for some reason. I get discombobulated.

Honestly that's as good a reason as any. Go for it. We cannot tell you how to play the game. The most important thing is to have fun, not to minmax everything to perfection.

OutOfBounds · Jun 20, 2018

Dylan said:
Another weird question; I'm purposely avoiding the bonfires in the catacombs because I noticed there's no ladder to get back up to Firelink. I'm planning on using a homeword bone to get back. Is this dumb?

Also, is there any advantage to lighting a bonfire without resting at it? I'm paranoid to even light them in case they make me stuck down there with the skeleton brigade.

If I am not mistaken you can get back up to Firelink Shrine from every Bonfire in the Catacombs. Sure, not every way up is as direct as a straight up ladder but you can get back up.

To your second point: try to find and kill the Necromancers. They don't respawn once killed so you don't have to worry about respawning skeletons.

Ebullientprism · Jun 20, 2018

Dylan said:
Another weird question; I'm purposely avoiding the bonfires in the catacombs because I noticed there's no ladder to get back up to Firelink. I'm planning on using a homeword bone to get back. Is this dumb?

Also, is there any advantage to lighting a bonfire without resting at it? I'm paranoid to even light them in case they make me stuck down there with the skeleton brigade.

You can light the two bonfires in the Catacombs. Its not that difficult to go back up from either. If you got there alive, you can make it back alive.

I would recommend not beating the boss and moving forward though. Once you do that, you can still go back up but it is a real pain in the ass. Beat the boss, homeward bone back to the catacomb bonfire and wait till you do Anor Londo before coming back.

Dylan · Jun 20, 2018

OutOfBounds said:
If I am not mistaken you can get back up to Firelink Shrine from every Bonfire in the Catacombs. Sure, not every way up is as direct as a straight up ladder but you can get back up.

To your second point: try to find and kill the Necromancers. They don't respawn once killed so you don't have to worry about respawning skeletons.

Ebullientprism said:
You can light the two bonfires in the Catacombs. Its not that difficult to go back up from either. If you got there alive, you can make it back alive.

I would recommend not beating the boss and moving forward though. Once you do that, you can still go back up but it is a real pain in the ass. Beat the boss, homeward bone back to the catacomb bonfire and wait till you do Anor Londo before coming back.

Oh man so I've been running from Firelink for nothing? Dark Souuuuuls!

I still have to do Blighttown and go back to Undead Asylum. Hopefully those won't seem so bad after this.

Deleted member 16136 · Jun 20, 2018

Am I a masochist for wanting to get my hands on the King's Field series ?

Ebullientprism · Jun 20, 2018

Dylan said:
Oh man so I've been running from Firelink for nothing? Dark Souuuuuls!

I still have to do Blighttown and go back to Undead Asylum. Hopefully those won't seem so bad after this.

I would probably do Blighttown first. You can get upgrade items there.

You definitely want to have some green shards (that are found in Blighttown) when you go to the Catacombs. The Blacksmith in Catacombs is the only one (AFAIK) that can turn your weapons into Fire weapons using those green shards.

Red Liquorice · Jun 20, 2018

It's definately worth doing the Catacombs earlier rather than later because doing it post-Anor Londo makes it too easy imo - one reason I think it's an under-rated area is because people often come to it far too late. But it leads straight in to another area that is a dead end and actually can't be progressed through (to the boss) until you've done Anor Londo - the game blocks your progress. So even if you go down there early, you can't get to the boss, and that area IS a bitch to get out of!

So you can do the Catacombs boss (and it's worth doing for the reward) but don't continue after the boss unless you want to hate life! :p

Ogs said:
Am I a masochist for wanting to get my hands on the King's Field series ?

It's antiquated but still very fun and atmospheric. The combat is garbage, so if you play them, play it for the exploration element, not the action.

Dylan · Jun 20, 2018

Mission accomplished!

Though I found it immediately after resting at a bonfire; I could have homeword boned my butt back already. Oh well, I'll keep clubbing skelies until I can find daylight again.

One thing that sucks about playing on PC is that there are so many fucking trolls. Almost every ledge has a "Try jumping off" attached. Many of the messages have the hacked-in developer message icon associated with it as well. I don't remember this on PS3; I barely encountered any misleading messages and they were almost always accompanied by "Be wary of Liar". The Personal Computer used to be a gentleman's arena : (

Blade Wolf · Jun 20, 2018

Ogs said:
Am I a masochist for wanting to get my hands on the King's Field series ?

No, the series had really cool design and atmosphere, I always wanted to give it a try, even though it probably plays like shit.

Dylan said:
One thing that sucks about playing on PC is that there are so many fucking trolls. Almost every ledge has a "Try jumping off" attached. Many of the messages have the hacked-in developer message icon associated with it as well. I don't remember this on PS3; I barely encountered any misleading messages and they were almost always accompanied by "Be wary of Liar". The Personal Computer used to be a gentleman's arena : (

Souls community used to be 90% helpful 10% troll, nowadays it's 40% helpful 30% rating bait and 30% troll.

Dylan · Jun 20, 2018

Red Liquorice said:
It's definately worth doing the Catacombs earlier rather than later because doing it post-Anor Londo makes it too easy imo - one reason I think it's an under-rated area is because people often come to it far too late. But it leads straight in to another area that is a dead end and actually can't be progressed through (to the boss) until you've done Anor Londo - the game blocks your progress. So even if you go down there early, you can't get to the boss, and that area IS a bitch to get out of!

So you can do the Catacombs boss (and it's worth doing for the reward) but don't continue after the boss unless you want to hate life! :p

It's antiquated but still very fun and atmospheric. The combat is garbage, so if you play them, play it for the exploration element, not the action.

Yeah, I'm actually committing to not using any walkthroughs, and relying purely on the NPC's to tell me where to go. So when the priest-guy at firelink said he and his boys were bringing "M'lady" to the catacombs, that was my cue to go for it. The game actually does do a pretty thorough job of guiding the player where to go and what to do; it just does it subtly via the NPC dialogue. It actually reminds me of the original Final Fantasy and some older RPG's, and it's much more fun than just following icons on a map, imo.

Davey Cakes · Jun 20, 2018

Red Liquorice said:
So you can do the Catacombs boss (and it's worth doing for the reward) but don't continue after the boss unless you want to hate life! :p

I remember trying that without the lantern. It was a fool's errand, but worth a try!

As for the Catacombs, I went there post-Anor Londo and I liked the difficulty. Just challenging enough to let me focus on exploring. The boss was easy as hell however, but that was kind of a nice relief after dealing with the Bonewheels, honestly.

ClearMetal · Jun 20, 2018

Red Liquorice said:
It's definately worth doing the Catacombs earlier rather than later because doing it post-Anor Londo makes it too easy imo - one reason I think it's an under-rated area is because people often come to it far too late. But it leads straight in to another area that is a dead end and actually can't be progressed through (to the boss) until you've done Anor Londo - the game blocks your progress. So even if you go down there early, you can't get to the boss, and that area IS a bitch to get out of!

So you can do the Catacombs boss (and it's worth doing for the reward) but don't continue after the boss unless you want to hate life! :p

It's antiquated but still very fun and atmospheric. The combat is garbage, so if you play them, play it for the exploration element, not the action.

Yeah, agreed about the Catacombs. It was one of the last areas I visited and I kind of regret doing it so late. You got both the skeleton blacksmith there for fire and chaos infusions and of course there's the rite of kindling. Pinwheel is a pushover when you already beat the four kings and seathe.

The roleplayer in me also regrets leaving Rhea stranded in the Tomb of Giants for so long. I think the game actually meant for you to save her early as you only need to fight a handful of giant skeletons to get to her; the skeleton beasts only start to appear past the pit she's in. Plus you need her for her miracles if you're playing a faith build.

That said, I find it odd the game didn't put her somewhere in the catacombs. It's not so bad if you know what to expect, but the ToG can be pretty daunting for new players. And the only other miracles merchant, Petrus, is an expensive shitbag.

Dylan · Jun 20, 2018

Here's a weird Lore thing; when you talk to the regular Blacksmith in the old church, he mentions something like

"I don't know a lot about the Darkroot Forest, but a talented blacksmith lives there. Those who brave the Catacombs seek him out, if they can survive..."

OK, so that makes sense, but what's this about the blacksmith residing in the forest? Is he trying to say that he lives in the forest and works in the catacombs? Seems like an oddly specific detail that doesn't seem to be reflected in the game. Weird?

Blade Wolf · Jun 20, 2018

Dylan said:
Here's a weird Lore thing; when you talk to the regular Blacksmith in the old church, he mentions something like

"I don't know a lot about the Darkroot Forest, but a talented blacksmith lives there. Those who brave the Catacombs seek him out, if they can survive..."

OK, so that makes sense, but what's this about the blacksmith residing in the forest? Is he trying to say that he lives in the forest and works in the catacombs? Seems like an oddly specific detail that doesn't seem to be reflected in the game. Weird?

He was talking about the dead blacksmith that holds the Devine Ember and the Watchtower Basement Key, you'll find his corpse after defeating the Moonlight Butterfly.

Those who brave the Catacombs seek him out so they can kill the skeletons.

Xiaomi · Jun 20, 2018

Dylan said:
Here's a weird Lore thing; when you talk to the regular Blacksmith in the old church, he mentions something like

"I don't know a lot about the Darkroot Forest, but a talented blacksmith lives there. Those who brave the Catacombs seek him out, if they can survive..."

OK, so that makes sense, but what's this about the blacksmith residing in the forest? Is he trying to say that he lives in the forest and works in the catacombs? Seems like an oddly specific detail that doesn't seem to be reflected in the game. Weird?

I think he's referring to two different blacksmiths. There's the one after the Moonlight Butterfly that got petrified (where you get the ember), and then the skeleton blacksmith (Vamos) in the catacombs.

EDIT: Or the above, which makes more sense.

Dylan · Jun 20, 2018

Blade Wolf said:
He was talking about the dead blacksmith that holds the Devine Ember and the Watchtower Basement Key, you'll find his corpse after defeating the Moonlight Butterfly.

Those who brave the Catacombs seek him out so they can kill the skeletons.

Holy shit, that makes total sense! Man, this game is awesome.

Should I have already figured out the lore reason that he was petrified? As far as I know, being cursed and being petrified are not the same thing, so I'm not sure what might have happened to ye olde forest blacksmith. If it's a spoiler I'll get there eventually.

Red Liquorice · Jun 20, 2018

ClearMetal said:
The roleplayer in me also regrets leaving Rhea stranded in the Tomb of Giants for so long. I think the game actually meant for you to save her early as you only need to fight a handful of giant skeletons to get to her; the skeleton beasts only start to appear past the pit she's in. Plus you need her for her miracles if you're playing a faith build.

That said, I find it odd the game didn't put her somewhere in the catacombs. It's not so bad if you know what to expect, but the ToG can be pretty daunting for new players. And the only other miracles merchant, Petrus, is an expensive shitbag.

I just wrapped up a Faith run and rescued Rhea early. I often go down there for the silver serpent ring so not a problem but her two body guards fucked me up 3 times before I finally got them. Had to run from Firelink each time, I definately under-estimated them. I think I usually blast them with great combustion if I go down early, but I was doing pure Miracle only, so they fucked me up repeatedly!

Blade Wolf · Jun 20, 2018

Dylan said:
Holy shit, that makes total sense! Man, this game is awesome.

Should I have already figured out the lore reason that he was petrified? As far as I know, being cursed and being petrified are not the same thing, so I'm not sure what might have happened to ye olde forest blacksmith. If it's a spoiler I'll get there eventually.

Actually I don't have the answer for that one, there're a lot of speculations out there though. Also he looks almost just like Andre, could be related.

CrocM · Jun 20, 2018

Noema said:
You need to start pumping points into Dex to get the most out of the Great Scythe. It has 'A' scaling at +15.

Also more Faith if you plan on using the Lightning Spears to actually deal damage.

He'd be better off pumping it into faith and then making a divine scythe.

Dylan · Jun 20, 2018

Red Liquorice said:
I just wrapped up a Faith run and rescued Rhea early. I often go down there for the silver serpent ring so not a problem but her two body guards fucked me up 3 times before I finally got them. Had to run from Firelink each time, I definately under-estimated them. I think I usually blast them with great combustion if I go down early, but I was doing pure Miracle only, so they fucked me up repeatedly!

Which weapons did you use for your build?

TinTuba47 · Jun 20, 2018

Is there any way to skip Blighttown?

I made it to the first bonfire, and i'm fed up. I'm aware of the reputation Blighttown has, and i'm just not into seeing it through

I_D · Jun 20, 2018

Gat King Swole said:
Is there any way to skip Blighttown?

I made it to the first bonfire, and i'm fed up. I'm aware of the reputation Blighttown has, and i'm just not into seeing it through

The first bonfire meaning the one at the top of Blighttown, which is fairly difficult to find, or the one at the bottom of Blighttown which is easy to find?

If you're at the bottom, you just head out of the doorway and take a right, and that takes you straight to the boss once you cross the mud and pass the boulder-throwing 'giants.'

If you're at the top, you still have a challenge ahead of you. From the bonfire, looking toward the Fire-Dogs, the bonfire is on the bottom floor and 90-degrees to your right.

TinTuba47 · Jun 20, 2018

Immortal_Daemon said:
The first bonfire meaning the one at the top of Blighttown, which is fairly difficult to find, or the one at the bottom of Blighttown which is easy to find?

If you're at the bottom, you just head out of the doorway and take a right, and that takes you straight to the boss once you cross the mud and pass the boulder-throwing 'giants.'

If you're at the top, you still have a challenge ahead of you. From the bonfire, looking toward the Fire-Dogs, the bonfire is on the bottom floor and 90-degrees to your right.

I'm at the top Bonfire. Thank you!

Van Bur3n · Jun 20, 2018

Gat King Swole said:
Is there any way to skip Blighttown?

I made it to the first bonfire, and i'm fed up. I'm aware of the reputation Blighttown has, and i'm just not into seeing it through

If you don't have the master key, then no. If you do, there is a shortcut that leads there from New Londo Ruins. You unlock a door and then you're practically there. Although since you're already in Blighttown, there isn't much point in using that shortcut even if you do have the master key. Now that I think about it, that doesn't really skip Blighttown. I mean, it skips the worst part of it (which is actually the fun part). It's mostly a skip to Blighttown. Forget what I am saying.

Swallow that poisonous and toxic pill and just head down the ladders. It's not as bad as it is made out to be. Most of the bad rep came from the original game's terrible frame rate.

Noema · Jun 20, 2018

Gat King Swole said:
Is there any way to skip Blighttown?

I made it to the first bonfire, and i'm fed up. I'm aware of the reputation Blighttown has, and i'm just not into seeing it through

You can skip most of it, at least the hardest part, but killing the boss in there is not optional.

TinTuba47 · Jun 20, 2018

Thanks everyone! Is the Blighttown boss a tough one?

jotun? · Jun 20, 2018

Blade Wolf said:
He was talking about the dead blacksmith that holds the Devine Ember and the Watchtower Basement Key, you'll find his corpse after defeating the Moonlight Butterfly.

Those who brave the Catacombs seek him out so they can kill the skeletons.

My first run, I did the catacombs right after the gargoyles, and hadn't gone to darkroot yet. I didn't have a divine weapon, and didn't even know that a divine weapon would make any difference. So not only was I at a pretty low level for doing the catacombs, but my only way of dealing with the skeletons was to lure them to a ledge and shove them off. I eventually made it through, but it took a long damn time.

Gat King Swole said:
Thanks everyone! Is the Blighttown boss a tough one?

She's a pretty good one. Not too easy, not too hard.

Noema · Jun 20, 2018

Van Bur3n said:
If you don't have the master key, then no. If you do, there is a shortcut that leads there from New Londo Ruins. You unlock a door and then you're practically there. Although since you're already in Blighttown, there isn't much point in using that shortcut even if you do have the master key..

I think it's still possible to get to Blightown from the Valley of Drakes without the Master Key. It's just a little bit more work.

Darkroot Garden >> Darkroot Basin >> Tunnel near the Black Knight with the Bonfire >>> Valley of the Drakes >>> Blightown.

From there you can pickup the key to New Londo to unlock the gate with the elevator to New Londo giving you quick access to Firelink Shrine. It's just that with the masterkey you can unlock that gate from the start so you can go straight to Firelink to the Valley in like 90 seconds.

III-V · Jun 20, 2018

Noema said:
I think it's still possible to get to Blightown from the Valley of Drakes without the Master Key. It's just a little bit more work.

Darkroot Garden >> Darkroot Basin >> Tunnel near the Black Knight with the Bonfire >>> Valley of the Drakes >>> Blightown.

From there you can pickup the key to New Londo to unlock the gate with the elevator to New Londo giving you quick access to Firelink Shrine. It's just that with the masterkey you can unlock that gate from the start so you can go straight to Firelink to the Valley in like 90 seconds.

Sounds correct

III-V · Jun 20, 2018

Gat King Swole said:
Thanks everyone! Is the Blighttown boss a tough one?

Stay out from under her feet after a jump lol.

Van Bur3n · Jun 20, 2018

Noema said:
I think it's still possible to get to Blightown from the Valley of Drakes without the Master Key. It's just a little bit more work.

Darkroot Garden >> Darkroot Basin >> Tunnel near the Black Knight with the Bonfire >>> Valley of the Drakes >>> Blightown.

From there you can pickup the key to New Londo to unlock the gate with the elevator to New Londo giving you quick access to Firelink Shrine. It's just that with the masterkey you can unlock that gate from the start so you can go straight to Firelink to the Valley in like 90 seconds.

Oh yeah, that elevator. Always forget it.

Man, I'm just all about the misinformation.

Just think of me as the Patches of this thread.

Sunlight blade is still the best

xeroborn55 · Jun 20, 2018

Finally beat four kings. Took 10 or 15 tries. Interesting fight. Probably one of my favorites so far. Those couple seconds while you wait for the next one to spawn and just spin around in the dark were tense.

supremeplatypus · Jun 20, 2018

Getting invaded by a prick with a character called TrishaTakanawa who has these ridiculous paralysis AOE spell that does ridiculous damage. Fucking asshole in Anor Londo wasting my humanities

Morrigan · Jun 20, 2018

Art Vandelay said:
I have no shame when it comes to invaders. I'll indict their asses if I lose lol.

Thanks

supremeplatypus said:
Getting invaded by a prick with a character called TrishaTakanawa who has these ridiculous paralysis AOE spell that does ridiculous damage. Fucking asshole in Anor Londo wasting my humanities

Wait... Paralysis AOE that does damage?

supremeplatypus · Jun 20, 2018

Morrigan said:
Thanks

Wait... Paralysis AOE that does damage?

I'm not sure about that tbh, she keeps casting whilst this paralysis AOE is active so those spells must be the ones doing the damage. No idea what spell that player is using.

Looking this up this seems to be Tranquil Walk of Faith that slows you down for 10 seconds, then she casts more spells that do the damage. Helped with Ornstein and Smough and now I want to summon help for myself and this asshole kills me.

Puggsly · Jun 20, 2018

Well platinum trophy done, now they need to hurry up and release the Switch version for my travel needs. Any word (rumors) on the release date for that yet?

Morrigan · Jun 20, 2018

supremeplatypus said:
I'm not sure about that tbh, she keeps casting whilst this paralysis AOE is active so those spells must be the ones doing the damage. No idea what spell that player is using.

Looking this up this seems to be Tranquil Walk of Faith that slows you down for 10 seconds, then she casts more spells that do the damage. Helped with Ornstein and Smough and now I want to summon help for myself and this asshole kills me.

Ah yeah ok. Tranquil Walk of Peace slows you down, but the damage is done via Wrath of the Gods, a different miracle.

Funnily enough I literally just killed someone that same way just now... in Anor Londo xD

Guppeth · Jun 20, 2018

Cleared the game again on my new character, using sorcery and the Moonlight Greatsword. Gwyn was vaporised in seconds!

Now I'm a few hours into Dark Souls 2. I'm not sure what I think of it yet. I'm dying a hell of a lot more than I ever did in DS1. The stat names have changed, the UI is harder to make sense of, and my HP is stuck at 50%. I guess I need to reverse hollowing?

I also need to unlearn 'tap O to slide down ladder'. That's killed me half a dozen times already. :D

demosthenes · Jun 20, 2018

I died on Anor Lando bridge, the one near the start. Came back and my blood stain isn't there. What the hell.

Dr ChadMan · Jun 20, 2018

Guppeth said:
Cleared the game again on my new character, using sorcery and the Moonlight Greatsword. Gwyn was vaporised in seconds!

Now I'm a few hours into Dark Souls 2. I'm not sure what I think of it yet. I'm dying a hell of a lot more than I ever did in DS1. The stat names have changed, the UI is harder to make sense of, and my HP is stuck at 50%. I guess I need to reverse hollowing?

I also need to unlearn 'tap O to slide down ladder'. That's killed me half a dozen times already. :D

I just recently finished my play through of DS1 and I'm now currently playing through Dark Souls 2 for the first time. And yes I was dying more at first too. I will say that the combat feels much better in 2.

Dylan · Jun 20, 2018

Uhhh ok so I accidentally fell down to the Catacombs Black Knight, and clubbed his ass ten ways to Sunday, but now I'm stuck here...

Those pinwheel skeletons eat me alive. I can barely even touch the ground before they kill me. Sheild is eviscerated in seconds. I killed one with a black firebomb but I only have one left. My arrows do like 14 damage to them. Am I "boned"?

Puggsly · Jun 20, 2018

Dylan said:
Uhhh ok so I accidentally fell down to the Catacombs Black Knight, and clubbed his ass ten ways to Sunday, but now I'm stuck here...

Those pinwheel skeletons eat me alive. I can barely even touch the ground before they kill me. Sheild is eviscerated in seconds. I killed one with a black firebomb but I only have one left. My arrows do like 14 damage to them. Am I "boned"?

You are literally right next to undead blacksmith where there is a bonfire. Keep wall on your left take the first entrance.

Edit: I am not sure if the entrance will be there if you didn't drop down to him via the other direction to reach him... Either way you can get out of the pit.

Guppeth · Jun 20, 2018

Dylan said:
Uhhh ok so I accidentally fell down to the Catacombs Black Knight, and clubbed his ass ten ways to Sunday, but now I'm stuck here...

Those pinwheel skeletons eat me alive. I can barely even touch the ground before they kill me. Sheild is eviscerated in seconds. I killed one with a black firebomb but I only have one left. My arrows do like 14 damage to them. Am I "boned"?

If you sprint and weave you can make it to the fog gate.

Dylan · Jun 20, 2018

Puggsly said:
You are literally right next to undead blacksmith where there is a bonfire. Keep wall on your left take the first entrance.

Edit: I am not sure if the entrance will be there if you didn't drop down to him via the other direction to reach him... Either way you can get out of the pit.

OK so I got my souls back and homeward boned up to the bonfire, then made my way down and found the blacksmith. So now I'm sort of trapped in there, trying to take the wheelingtons out one by one as they chase me back into the room.

Guppeth said:
If you sprint and weave you can make it to the fog gate.

Is that the boss? Somebody said it will be a bitch to get back up to Firelink if I go ahead and fight the boss, but it seems like I'm pretty stuck down here anyway. Gah.

Edit: OK getting frustrated now. I helped the same dude 3 times go around the whole catacombs killing everything and then he just sent me back. Each time the wheel-skeletons are back to life? I thought it retained whatever you killed after being summoned. Now I gotta do it all over again.

Puggsly · Jun 20, 2018

Dylan said:
OK so I got my souls back and homeward boned up to the bonfire, then made my way down and found the blacksmith. So now I'm sort of trapped in there, trying to take the wheelingtons out one by one as they chase me back into the room.

Is that the boss? Somebody said it will be a bitch to get back up to Firelink if I go ahead and fight the boss, but it seems like I'm pretty stuck down here anyway. Gah.

Edit: OK getting frustrated now. I helped the same dude 3 times go around the whole catacombs killing everything and then he just sent me back. Each time the wheel-skeletons are back to life? I thought it retained whatever you killed after being summoned. Now I gotta do it all over again.

I would say go ahead and do boss if you are all the way down there, the sewer merchant sells bones for 500 a piece... No need to feel like they're a precious commodity. You can speedrun back down there from Firelink real quick if you are comfortable doing a jump/roll from the bridge, and at most you will get maybe 1 skeleton to follow you. Additionally there is an NPC you can summon if you need help with the bonewheels.

Guppeth · Jun 21, 2018

Dylan said:
Is that the boss? Somebody said it will be a bitch to get back up to Firelink if I go ahead and fight the boss, but it seems like I'm pretty stuck down here anyway. Gah.

Edit: OK getting frustrated now. I helped the same dude 3 times go around the whole catacombs killing everything and then he just sent me back. Each time the wheel-skeletons are back to life? I thought it retained whatever you killed after being summoned. Now I gotta do it all over again.

If you're at the blacksmith you're at the boss. Head out of the blacksmith room, turn right, and run. Zig zag all the way to the boss.

If you're summoned you're in someone else's world. Nothing you do carries over to your own world.

Dylan · Jun 21, 2018

Guppeth said:
If you're at the blacksmith you're at the boss. Head out of the blacksmith room, turn right, and run. Zig zag all the way to the boss.

If you're summoned you're in someone else's world. Nothing you do carries over to your own world.

What I meant was I would kill the skeleton wheels, then get summoned into somebody elses world, and when I returned to my own world the skeleton wheels would all be back to life. Wtf.

Anyway, Pinwheel is now diggity-dead. Painfully easy boss, but it was actually a super close-call because my controller batteries died seconds after I beat him. Phew! I got the mother's mask.

I'm worried that I sequence-broke the plot. Wasn't I supposed to meet some dude in the Catacombs? I didn't see anyone other than Leeroy Jenkins.

Now to figure out how to get back up to Firelink.

edit: holy shit the skeletons are back after I killed them all and then killed pinwheel.

Edit edit: holy shit one of the skeletons made it to the blacksmith and nearly killed him. WTF GAME.

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