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Oct 28, 2017
1,228
having differendt prices should not matter to compare, as pricing is yet but another factor (just as marketing and games) toa drive people to buy a piece of hardware, 499$ USD is what killed early on PS3 and cutting down from 250$ to 180$ is what let 3DS get back on its feet quickly
Prices matters, it´s probably the most important issue when buying a gaming product especially for casuals.
 

Kodama4

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,933
You guys are all stuck in past, instead of comparing unit sales you should be seeing which hardware had the highest revenue, the greatest engagement, how many hours where spent downloading updates and of course how much DLC was brought between 9pm and 11pm every evening.

These are the true indicators of a worthy console champion.
 

ethomaz

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
4,851
Santa Albertina
PS4 2nd year (2014) x Switch 2nd year (2018)

Jan - 190k / 270k
Feb - 340k / 280k
Mar - 330k / 310k
Apr - 175k / 170k
May - 155k / 165k
Jun - 370k
Jul - 220k
Aug - 210k
Sep - 355k
Oct - 275k
Nov - 1540k
Dec - 1580k

Switch is ahead by 5k. I see Nintendo reaching 6 million consoles by the end of the year. December will have Switch selling 2 ~ 2.5 million units.
That looks like PS4 first year except Nov/Dec.
 

Sonicfan059

Member
Mar 4, 2018
3,024
But software issue won't be solved this gen, so overall I wonder what was the point of the X, if as you say it's too expensive to compete.

They really dropped the ball by not releasing a single game that could showcase his power.

But I'm starting to wonder, even if they had that game, what's the point of this mid-gem refreshes? What did/would the X/Pro achieve that the base models didn't?

They didn't prolong the gen's duration, they didn't broaden the base, as most X/Pro owners are people upgrading, they didn't make them money, as they're sold mostly at cost, and I'm not sure they stopped people migrating to the PC.

I believe the whole point of the Pro was to enable the PSVR, bu that wasn't clear and the VR hasn't been a runaway succes either, so the only people benefitting from all this have been 4K TV manufacturers.

So taking all that into accountI don't think we'll see MS launching with 2 sku's as someone predicted, and I don't see much future to midgen refreshes in general
The point was to stop the bleeding. Even with its launch and reinvigorated sells late last year they still had their lowest year yet. If the X wasn't released this year would probably be flat or down even more, possibly at sub 100k during slow months like it was so close to last year.
 

Soprano

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
990
As usual, just going to share a few numbers

The relative sales volumes of game hardware were approximately:



YoY


On the software side the best sellers were:

Are those software sales just randomly listed, or based on units? The revenue chart is completely different. As it should be, just wondering.
 

Andri

Member
Mar 20, 2018
6,017
Switzerland
I mean anything can happen but it certainly isn't ''pretty approachable'' if they ship barely more this Q1 than they did last year (about 2 million). PS4 shipped 3.5 million during the Q1 in the FY it shipped 20 million. Closest comparison would be Wii that shipped 20.53 million during FY2009 and only 2.23 million Q1 but a) low Q1 shipment for it was more about Nintendo overshipping previous quarter b) Wii had absolutely insane holiday season sales wise (that legendary 3.81 million December NPD result). Switch is not gonna match that.

Does nintendo not always skew higher towards the holiday quarter than Sony/MS ?

Besides that, Nintendo clearly loaded Q3 with games, so their holiday will be up, as will their Q4.
Since Q3 is the bulk of their sales anyway, YoY increases there will be much more crucial to hitting 20m than anything in Q1/2.
 

KillerMan91

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,359
Does nintendo not always skew higher towards the holiday quarter than Sony/MS ?

Besides that, Nintendo clearly loaded Q3 with games, so their holiday will be up, as will their Q4.
Since Q3 is the bulk of their sales anyway, YoY increases there will be much more crucial to hitting 20m than anything in Q1/2.

Yes but not usually to the degree demanded here for that 20 million forecast to work. They would need higher growth for holiday quarter than with that Wii comparison and we are talking about the Wii.
 

Supreme Leader Galahad

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Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,090
Brazil
You guys are all stuck in past, instead of comparing unit sales you should be seeing which hardware had the highest revenue, the greatest engagement, how many hours where spent downloading updates and of course how much DLC was brought between 9pm and 11pm every evening.

These are the true indicators of a worthy console champion.
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Yuuber

Member
Oct 28, 2017
4,153
You guys are all stuck in past, instead of comparing unit sales you should be seeing which hardware had the highest revenue, the greatest engagement, how many hours where spent downloading updates and of course how much DLC was brought between 9pm and 11pm every evening.

These are the true indicators of a worthy console champion.

This is great.
 
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donny2112

Member
Oct 27, 2017
620
i wonder why is the NDP report delayed? It's not like it's a physical 'thing' being shipped from one location to another.

What's the hold up?

Not sure if Mat could respond, but as an educated guess, it could've been to give some separation between physical release and physcial+digital release like is seen in normal months.

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ResetERA Aggregate Predictions - May-2018

1. PS4 - 217K
2. NSW - 166K
3. XB1 - 139K

NPD Prediction Results - May 2018

Units

1. mejin - 20,000
2. Ryng Manuel Tolu - 22,000
3. Noobie - 23,000
4. AceofSpades - 25,000
4. Sangetsu-II - 25,000
6. Expy - 26,000
7. MrTired - 30,000
7. Phantom Thief - 30,000
7. Shakka43 - 30,000
10. freeradical - 31,000
11. Slarvax - 34,000
12. Astrogamer - 35,000
12. Elandyll - 35,000
12. Grads - 35,000
12. Jildo Fisterfilly - 35,000
12. Kaveri - 35,000
12. KillerMan91 - 35,000
12. Martl - 35,000
12. MasterChumly - 35,000
12. Rymuth - 35,000
12. pitseleh - 35,000
22. JSG87 - 37,000
22. Kyser73 - 37,000
24. Heartskips - 40,000
24. HighJump - 40,000
24. James - 40,000
24. RexNovis - 40,000
24. brykuhn91 - 40,000
24. gueras - 40,000
24. useyourloaf - 40,000
31. kowalski - 42,000
32. Zedark - 45,000
33. Bitch Pudding - 47,000
33. Stanng243 - 47,000
35. Myriotes - 48,000
36. Fdkn - 49,000
37. Corporate Clown - 50,000
37. John Bender - 50,000
37. Kill3r7 - 50,000
37. Wander_ - 50,000
37. rahzel - 50,000
42. Wandu - 51,000
43. allan-bh - 52,000
44. N.47H.4N - 53,000
45. LordZap - 55,000
45. Pachter - 55,000
45. ethomaz - 55,000
45. jroc74 - 55,000
49. Andromeda - 58,000
50. Peek-a-boo! - 59,000
51. Nocturnal - 60,000
51. Primethius - 60,000
51. Welfare - 60,000
51. slavesnyder - 60,000
55. CosmicBolt - 63,000
56. chroeser - 64,000
57. Darth Smurf X - 65,000
57. Harris Katz - 65,000
57. score01 - 65,000
60. cakely - 69,000
61. ConfusedGamer - 70,000
61. Omnislayer - 70,000
61. chobel - 70,000
64. Euler007 - 75,000
65. Pablo Mesa - 77,000
66. Hammer24 - 84,000
66. jayu26 - 84,000
68. darkside - 85,000
69. SaberX85 - 86,000
70. donny2112 - 95,000
71. gcwy - 100,000
72. ResetEraIsTheBestEra - 125,000
73. Renna Hazel - 130,000
74. Mr Swine - 135,000
75. phantomx - 153,000


Points
Code:
     May 2018                        Overall 2018 Top (4/5)
01.  mejin                  122.81   mejin                    424.39
02.  Ryng Manuel Tolu       118.57   freeradical              415.98
03.  Noobie                 116.61   Elandyll                 412.01
04.  Sangetsu-II            113.94   Ryng Manuel Tolu         407.16
05.  AceofSpades            113.67   allan-bh                 407.12
06.  Expy                   110.17   kowalski                 403.52
07.  Phantom Thief          108.61   Andromeda                402.59
08.  MrTired                107.95   Welfare                  400.25
09.  Shakka43               107.79   CosmicBolt               399.66
10.  freeradical            104.61   Limabean01               397.85
11.  Kaveri                 104.28   chroeser                 397.54
12.  MasterChumly           104.14   jroc74                   397.36
13.  Elandyll               104.14   Martl                    395.45
14.  Rymuth                 104.14   RexNovis                 394.48
15.  Kyser73                103.84   MrTired                  394.27
16.  Astrogamer             103.60   Kaveri                   389.82
17.  Martl                  103.32   useyourloaf              388.81
18.  HighJump               103.13   Sangetsu-II              387.83
19.  Grads                  103.06   ResetEraIsTheBestEra     387.51
20.  Slarvax                102.82   Fdkn                     387.19
21.  Heartskips             102.59   Expy                     386.97
22.  JSG87                  102.56   Darth Smurf X            385.55
23.  kowalski               102.18   Primethius               384.81
24.  James                  102.17   Hammer24                 384.31
25.  RexNovis               102.06   KillerMan91              383.49
26.  gueras                 101.91   cakely                   382.36
27.  brykuhn91              101.50   Corporate Clown          381.97
28.  Bitch Pudding          101.38   Stanng243                381.79
29.  Pachter                101.31   Nocturnal                381.68
30.  Myriotes               101.23   Wandu                    381.23
31.  Corporate Clown        101.11   pitseleh                 378.88
32.  Zedark                 101.02   Astrogamer               378.58
33.  Kill3r7                100.83   Rymuth                   377.29
34.  rahzel                 100.69   slavesnyder              376.95
35.  Wandu                  100.63   gueras                   376.29
36.  allan-bh               100.37   Astandahl                375.97
37.  Stanng243              100.29   Kill3r7                  374.06
38.  LordZap                100.23   Grads                    372.86
39.  Primethius             100.02   chobel                   372.78
40.  Fdkn                    99.97   Jildo Fisterfilly        372.63
41.  jroc74                  99.96   Zedark                   372.59
42.  Welfare                 99.62   jayu26                   372.43
43.  slavesnyder             99.62   Bitch Pudding            372.09
44.  ethomaz                 99.56   Slarvax                  371.23
45.  Wander_                 99.37   donny2112                371.03
46.  N.47H.4N                98.63   ConfusedGamer            369.89
47.  Andromeda               98.37   Phantom Thief            368.76
48.  Euler007                98.07   DanR93                   367.44
49.  Nocturnal               98.00   Majiebeast               367.05
50.  Darth Smurf X           97.80   James                    364.80

Congratulations, mejin! :D
 

Edigar

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
352
Brazil
Switch 2017 x Switch 2018

Jan - --------- / 270k
Feb - --------- / 280k
Mar - 906k / 310k
Apr - 280k / 170k
May - 165k / 167k
Jun - 216k /
Jul - 222k /
Aug - 215k /
Sep - 320k /
Oct - 280k /
Nov - 750k /
Dec - 1500k /

Total 2017 - ~4850k
 

Bitch Pudding

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,202

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Congratulations, mejin!
 

John Bender

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,058
NPD Prediction Results - May 2018

Units

37. John Bender - 50,000
Fucking hell. My predictions are terrible this year.
You guys are all stuck in past, instead of comparing unit sales you should be seeing which hardware had the highest revenue, the greatest engagement, how many hours where spent downloading updates and of course how much DLC was brought between 9pm and 11pm every evening.

These are the true indicators of a worthy console champion.
But how many snacks got eaten? More than 6 million this time?
 

Deleted member 2785

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,119
Hi.

The advisory for June 2018 sales data will release on Tuesday, August 7th.

We are undergoing a data migration to a new "Combined Global DecisionKey Dataset" which sounds neat when said but where the acronym leaves much to be desired.

The media advisory will continue to focus on the US market.
 

Omnistalgic

self-requested temp ban
Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,973
NJ
Lol...was his post sarcasm? MS did a little extra spin, but the joke is getting old now. There was merit it analyzing the success of a console in other metrics besides hardware sold off shelves.

Next month. I think Switch wins with Fortnite. PS4 wins until October with Forza, and then Switch wins December again. All the predicting I'm doing lol
 

Astandahl

Member
Oct 28, 2017
9,012
Lol...was his post sarcasm? MS did a little extra spin, but the joke is getting old now. There was merit it analyzing the success of a console in other metrics besides hardware sold off shelves.

Next month. I think Switch wins with Fortnite. PS4 wins until October with Forza, and then Switch wins December again. All the predicting I'm doing lol
Forza?

Hi.

The advisory for June 2018 sales data will release on Tuesday, August 7th.

We are undergoing a data migration to a new "Combined Global DecisionKey Dataset" which sounds neat when said but where the acronym leaves much to be desired.

The media advisory will continue to focus on the US market.

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Ryng™

Member
Nov 2, 2017
3,641
Italy
Not sure if Mat could respond, but as an educated guess, it could've been to give some separation between physical release and physcial+digital release like is seen in normal months.

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ResetERA Aggregate Predictions - May-2018

1. PS4 - 217K
2. NSW - 166K
3. XB1 - 139K

NPD Prediction Results - May 2018

Units

1. mejin - 20,000
2. Ryng Manuel Tolu - 22,000


Points
Code:
     May 2018                        Overall 2018 Top (4/5)
01.  mejin                  122.81   mejin                    424.39
02.  Ryng Manuel Tolu       118.57   freeradical              415.98

Congratulations, mejin! :D

I'm super salty right now lmao, because tecnically with the estimate we got i should be first :P

PS4 223K / NSW 167K / XB1 145K, but instead we rounded estimate to 5K so with those adjustments i end up beinng second.

But i'm ok with this, what really matter is that i started the year very bad out of TOP 30 i think, but every months i got better results and now overall this year i'm #4.

That's very good, but not enought! I plan to be first this year, so watch out for the nexts NPD predictions. >:D
 

N.Domixis

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
9,208
NPD needs to spread to other countries, don't you guys want more money? Imagine getting sales for every region.
 

RexNovis

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,190
I'm super salty right now lmao, because tecnically with the estimate we got i should be first :P

PS4 223K / NSW 167K / XB1 145K, but instead we rounded estimate to 5K so with those adjustments i end up beinng second.

But i'm ok with this, what really matter is that i started the year very bad out of TOP 30 i think, but every months i got better results and now overall this year i'm #4.

That's very good, but not enought! I plan to be first this year, so watch out for the nexts NPD predictions. >:D

So long as it doesn't involve the changing of anyone's avatar... good luck
 

Pablo Mesa

Banned
Nov 23, 2017
6,878
Yeah, Switch had a great December last year with nothing big except XC2 (is that even big?) since Odyssey in October.

Pokémon in Nov and Smash in Dec I don't see how it doesn't obliterate last years
Oddyssey carried Nintendo all october, November, December, january, February and March

With their line up this year I expect 4-4.5M during Fall
 

Noobie

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
755
Finally done respectable score in the monthly ranking but my past scores were just too terrible that I still don't get a page in top 50 overall
 

Simba1

Member
Dec 5, 2017
5,383
Yeah, Switch had a great December last year with nothing big except XC2 (is that even big?) since Odyssey in October.

Pokémon in Nov and Smash in Dec I don't see how it doesn't obliterate last years

Dont forget Super Mario Party in October also, of course it's not nearly big game like Mario Odyssey last year, but definitely can keep up momentum.
 

Pablo Mesa

Banned
Nov 23, 2017
6,878
Dont forget Super Mario Party in October also, of course it's not nearly big game like Mario Odyssey last year, but definitely can keep up momentum.
MP might be and sleeping giant tho
1) Party type games seems to be working on Switch, I mean, Look a 1-2 Switch
2) MP was actually a 9M seller during Wii and DS era.