It's good for the vast majority of people. It really only breaks down if you have a good amount of muscle mass.
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Normalisation of 'plus-size' risks hidden danger of obesity, study finds (Read OP)
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It's good for the vast majority of people. It really only breaks down if you have a good amount of muscle mass.
I don't think I've seen as much vitriol in body related threads as I have in threads about muscular people actually
There is a difference between overweight and obese. I personally don't mind if someone is overweight and has a few pounds more on their hips, but being over 300lb should not be celebrated.
I have never a "low salt" version of anything and it also doesn't make you lose weight because salt doesn't have any calories.
That image has little to do with body type.
According to ERA, the above people are being considered obese, unhealthy and are being coddled for accepting their bodies.
Some of you posters in here are scum. What an ugly view of people you have.
Pisses me off to no end.
Most of those people are obese. The black woman on the left in the above picture is the only one who'd qualify as just overweight. The other women are all obese. The three dudes are definitely very fat, and probably bordering on obese too, but two of them seem to have a decent base underneath it. But that means little if they're carrying an extra 30lbs of fat, which they at the very least are.
There is difference between being morbidly obese and obese.
Been the opposite in my experience I usually got more depressed and ate more when someone was an asshole. That said when someone was firm but truthful (in telling me my weight would kill me) that got me to kick my ass in gear and start losing weight. Telling someone the truth and being an asshole are not the same thing.
Interesting assumption in that bolded part, that you're educating me on something I already know, as if to score a point in a debate.
And thanks for calling me an asshole.
How old are you, by the way?
No body type naturally packs on 40 pounds of excess fat without neglect.
Duh.
When I was in grade school, I remember being one of 2 or 3 fat kids in my class. I recently looked at pictures from back then and laughed because now I would be considered normal.
When I was in grade school, I remember being one of 2 or 3 fat kids in my class. I recently looked at pictures from back then and laughed because now I would be considered normal.
Also I think many people don't realise where the line of obese goes. It's lower than most probably think.
Here's me just above overweight at obese. I always thought of myself at not obese, but that's what living in an obese society does to your self perception.
This is pretty close to my body type. I'm 5'7 and 198lbs. Doctors consider me obese. The line is pretty low... I'd rather call it husky. Especially if you can see your penis when you urinate!
So yeah, I need to lose weight but I'm not fucking obese. Which is what I think Digital OP is trying to get at.
Look, people who are fat already know they're fat. It's not a mystery to them. I do agree with your other points though.
If you have not seen this then you really are not paying attention. It's EVERYWHERE.
Jesus fucking christ, some posters in this thread...
Maybe combat obesity in a way that isn't making people feel ostracized and suicidal? What the fuck is wrong with you people? What makes you think that society yelling how fat people barely deserve to live is helpful to anyone? "Telling people the truth" my ass. Portion sizes are generally way too large and teaching people about that is a much more effective way to curb obesity. Then again the bullshit-laden diet industry pushing a million products that allegedly help people lose weight is one of the most lucrative industries out there. Hmm, what a coincidence that the US with it's rampant unchecked capitalist market also happens to be one of the world's most obese countries.
Laymen still citing BMI in 2018… smh.
Maybe combat obesity in a way that isn't making people feel ostracized and suicidal? What the fuck is wrong with you people? What makes you think that society yelling how fat people barely deserve to live is helpful to anyone? "Telling people the truth" my ass. Portion sizes are generally way too large and teaching people about that is a much more effective way to curb obesity. Then again the bullshit-laden diet industry pushing a million products that allegedly help people lose weight is one of the most lucrative industries out there. Hmm, what a coincidence that the US with it's rampant unchecked capitalist market also happens to be one of the world's most obese countries.
Laymen still citing BMI in 2018… smh.
Fucking thank you! You've said it much better than I ever could.
If it's everywhere, show me. I want to see this big media push of fat acceptance that is so dangerous.
Every fat-shaming asshole in this thread. Do I need to quote every single one?
The problem isn't that people don't know that they're fat, it's that many people delude themselves into thinking that being fat isn't an issue.
Yeah, they are probably obese. The medical definition of obese is far lower than most realize. At 6'0 one only needs to be 220lbs to be considered obese. 185lbs to be overweight.
BMI is largely considered bunk science now, but for your average person it holds pretty true in terms of how much body fat one carries both the stuff you see and the stuff packed around your organs.
According to ERA, the above people are being considered obese, unhealthy and are being coddled for accepting their bodies.
Some of you posters in here are scum. What an ugly view of people you have.
Pisses me off to no end.
Lmao, scum for telling the truth. The people in those pictures are not healthy, and they are definitely overweight. Also I can't help but notice that all of them are less than 40 years old, when they get around that age they will start to understand that if they don't fix some shit they will probably die earlier than they should.
I mean, making it clear to people how bad it is for them is important too.
It's a bit like if we hadn't been allowed to have the severe advertising against smoking including things like printing pcutures of the damage smoking does right on the packs, just because it might hurt smokers feelings.
I don't think I've seen anyone advocating what you're saying, and in fact the vast majority of posts preface anything said by specifically denouncing fat-shaming
Fat shaming isn't okay.
We should gear to teach that fat is not unattractive, but that it is unhealthy.
Portion control is unnatural.
We evolved to eat as much food as we can get our hands on and that's why our stomachs are so large and our bodies so efficient at storing extra food away as fat.
We have train out this biological instinct from a young age, until we find a way to do that, obesity will always be with us.
We should gear to teach that fat is not unattractive, but that it is unhealthy.
Portion control is unnatural.
We evolved to eat as much food as we can get our hands on and that's why our stomachs are so large and our bodies so efficient at storing extra food away as fat.
We have train out this biological instinct from a young age, until we find a way to do that, obesity will always be with us.
Shit like this, which was literally the first thing that popped up when I used Google:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/chrissymahlmeister/anything-but-average?utm_term=.psq8pWgeV#.hgad7lJG6
This is everywhere and you trying to pretend it does not exist is irresponsible.
Disagree completely. There's a huge gay population that's all about that bass.
I'm a big boy - I have no issues getting.... taken care of.
The problem is, exercise doesn't really make you lose weight. A run can burn 300 calories (as an example). That's 2 pops. No, you're better off counting calories than trying to exercise to lose weight. What exercise CAN do though, is help your body function better, which is always a good thing. TO BE CLEAR - I'm not saying exercise is bad, wrong, won't do anything, etc. My point is only that exercise does NOT play a big role in losing weight.
I'm taking this class right now on how skinny people eat. It's extremely interesting, and actually really easy to incorporate. I've already made some changes, though I can't say I've seen progress yet, but I think I will soon.
And it came out to counter all the fat-shaming that was over the top. Maybe if people had stuck to not being assholes it wouldn't have resulted in such a over correction.
We stretch our stomachs by stuffing ourselves. If we stop stuffing ourselves, our stomachs will shrink and we will become fuller faster.
Im 9 years old and Im pissed off by peoples attitudes so forgive me. How about we start over? People aren't magically unhealthy or lesser just because their bigger than someone. There is an obvious line where being overweight becomes dangerous but to put that on people simple just for being thicker is ignorant as fuck.
You must be right, theres no way someones body could burn calories slower or have a slower rate of metabolism.
We're all exactly the same.
Obesity is largely a result of food addiction coupled with cheap access to calorie dense foods. The reason why diets like keto are so successful is because it's a lot easier to not eat something addictive entirely rather than controlling for portions.
No, people can be beautiful and also unhealthy. A thin fashion model can be a 3 pack a day smoker. The problem is the way society has conflated body size with beauty as opposed to health as if you can't be both things, and to both extremes, likely as a way to sell makeup and clothing.
Why are some of you so charged about this? I mean I get it, but damn.
you can have empathy when folks being bullied/feel like shit for being fat yet still be worried about increasing amounts of people posing a threat to their health/wellbeing and this being seen as ok
Nothing sucks more than having endocrine failure and your weight fluctuates around 50-100 pounds every year due to stress and such. Some people have it much harder to lose and maintain weight then others. Sometimes there is more going on then just laziness and junk food.
Well I guess this is a good example of us needing to be better about educating our children about healthy eating and the dangers of obesity.
Listen up fatties: we will call you fat and not beautiful because we care about your health. If you hate yourself you're probably right
We honestly don't remember what a healthy weight looks like anymore. I'm on the upper bounds of "normal" BMI and everyone thinks I look skinny.
For 99% of people, yes, we are. Obesity has nothing to do with metabolism differences. People eat way too much and move too little.
Did they now? So the people stating that fat shaming is merely telling the truth doesn't imply that's what they think people should be doing? We have people citing "medical obesity" based on fucking BMI to justify their hatred for crying out loud. I'm assuming every single one of the people advocating for this also walk up to every smoker you see on the street and lecture them on how they will die prematurely.
Or if you're young. Or elderly. Or pregnant. In the abstract, it's useless. What's more useful is your cardiovascular health, BMR and body fat %. Add in the fact that people should be shooting to increase their muscle mass as a principle of health and fitness anyway, and the BMI becomes barely useful as a starting point at best.
Uhhh, pass
Just tell sick people to go to the doctor and improve healthcare of course. There's no reason to just come after a plus size person unless you're their doctor and have some evidence. My wife is a big girl and it's mostly genetic, which she learned in college from a specialist. But fucks like some of y'all still wanna come at her with "but what about your blood pressure"and shit.
I've told her she should just carry around a card with her stats to whip out when people do this, then ask them how they're doing on those metrics. I'd guess half of them are worse.
A buzz feed article, oh wow. Such a big media push. You suggesting the article should shame them instead? lol