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Lord Brady

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Oct 26, 2017
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I believe Brady got 4 games for the alleged coverup rather than the crime of cold weather slowly deflating a football. But still, seems like the NFL just can't get punishments correct. They punished New Orleans for a full season for coaches telling their players to basically play hard. Yet Rapey MaGee gets 3 games despite a long history of doing incredibly stupid shit. And then there's Kaep who got a lifetime suspension for kneeling during the anthem. Who's ready for the NFL to return!!!!?! Hurrayyyyyy!
 

Netherscourge

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Oct 25, 2017
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lol @ his teammates' expressions.
 

Bitanator

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Oct 27, 2017
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Jameis has such a good ceiling as a player, but he is a piece of shit who deserves whatever comes his way
 

Braaier

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Oct 29, 2017
13,237
Enlighten me then. What are the "facts" regarding him raping a girl and then settling it out of court?
The FACTS are she accused him of rape. He denied it. He had witnesses that denied it. There was lots of circumstantial evidence to support him. There was no evidence to arrest him. He was cleared by law enforcement and the school. These are the FACTS. The drivel you were spewing was not fact. Look up the definition of fact if you're that confused. Or actually read up on the facts of the case
 
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Coyote Starrk

Coyote Starrk

The Fallen
Oct 30, 2017
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The FACTS are she accused him of rape. He denied it. He had witnesses that denied it. There was lots of circumstantial evidence to support him. There was no evidence to arrest him. He was cleared by law enforcement and the school. These are the FACTS. The drivel you were spewing was not fact. Look up the definition of fact if you're that confused. Or actually read up on the facts of the case

So you are just completely dismissing the women's claims and calling her a liar despite the fact that he decided to settle the civil case rather than let it go to court?


Because CLEARLY settling a case beforebit makes it to court is the action of an innocent man who did nothing wrong right?




You can't actually be serious.
 

Aurelio

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Oct 28, 2017
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User Banned (Permanent): Dismissive of Sexual Allegations, History of Infractions
So are you ever coming back with those "facts" of yours?



You claimed that what I said about Winston isn't true, but you never actually explained why and its been 3 hours since I asked you to explain. Or was that just a drive by post?

I figured. Wanted to give him a chance before I reported him. I usually don't care about drive by's unless they are offensive, but I'm not gonna sit here and ignore a drive by who defends a rapist without explaining himself.

The FACTS are she accused him of rape. He denied it. He had witnesses that denied it. There was lots of circumstantial evidence to support him. There was no evidence to arrest him. He was cleared by law enforcement and the school. These are the FACTS. The drivel you were spewing was not fact. Look up the definition of fact if you're that confused. Or actually read up on the facts of the case
Yep. Sorry OP but yours is just a personal opinion because if true facts. I mean this is America, innocent until proven guilty and all that so technically fuck the NFL for ha ding out a suspension that has no legal merit.
 

Braaier

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Oct 29, 2017
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So you are just completely dismissing the women's claims and calling her a liar despite the fact that he decided to settle the civil case rather than let it go to court?




You can't actually be serious.
And you're completely dismissing the fact that Winston counter sued her for slander. You can't be serious
 
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Coyote Starrk

Coyote Starrk

The Fallen
Oct 30, 2017
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And you're completely dismissing the fact that Winston counter sued her for slander. You can't be serious
And he lost. The judge dismissed them.



Meanwhile the victim took him to civil court and he settled before it got to court and the school was forced to pay her as well



Now why would all that happen if he did nothing wrong?
 

Braaier

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Oct 29, 2017
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And he lost. The judge dismissed them.



Meanwhile the victim took him to civil court and he settled before it got to court and the school was forced to pay her as well



Now why would all that happen if he did nothing wrong?
I never said he did nothing wrong. You were stating shit as fact when it wasn't proven. You don't know what happened. The facts don't support a rape. You have your opinion of what happened. That doesn't make it fact
 
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Coyote Starrk

Coyote Starrk

The Fallen
Oct 30, 2017
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That, plus he was later banned from Uber and suspended due to fondling a driver.

But I guess these are just opinions?
Yeah exactly. Also let's not forget that in his opinion women should be "silent".


Clearly no pattern at all to his behavior......./s


I never said he did nothing wrong. You were stating shit as fact when it wasn't proven. You don't know what happened. The facts don't support a rape. You have your opinion of what happened. That doesn't make it fact
Okay so you say he did something wrong, but the facts don't support the rape allegations.


What do they support in your opinion then?
 
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Euron

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Oct 27, 2017
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I don't blame the NFL at all for this. This is the third different accusation against Winston for some form of sexual assault, in addition to his accusations of theft and disruptive behavior.

He also said last year to a class of middle school students that boys should be "strong" and girls should be "silent". There should be no place in the league for somebody like him.
 
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Coyote Starrk

Coyote Starrk

The Fallen
Oct 30, 2017
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I don't blame the NFL at all for this. This is the third different accusation against Winston for some form of sexual assault, in addition to his accusations of theft and disruptive behavior.

He also said last year to a class of middle school students that boys should be "strong" and girls should be "silent". There should be no place in the league for somebody like him.
It also doesn't help that there is no shortage of people willing to defend him and dismiss all the allegations.
 

Euron

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Oct 27, 2017
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It also doesn't help that there is no shortage of people willing to defend him and dismiss all the allegations.
He's literally a god to the people of Florida State. At College Gameday last year I saw someone in his jersey with "Black Jesus" on the back as the name. If you win a National Championship and the Heisman, you become untouchable to many people.
 

lorddarkflare

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Oct 25, 2017
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I am an FSU alumnus and I was disgusted by how everyone in Tallahassee dealt with this. This filth almost certainly raped a girl, but people contorted themselves to pretend otherwise.

I was stunned by how willful everyone was about it.
 

5taquitos

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Oct 27, 2017
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lol imagine someone trying to defend this dude.

Oh wait I don't have to imagine, it's happening in this very thread.
 
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Coyote Starrk

Coyote Starrk

The Fallen
Oct 30, 2017
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Yep. Sorry OP but yours is just a personal opinion because if true facts. I mean this is America, innocent until proven guilty and all that so technically fuck the NFL for ha ding out a suspension that has no legal merit.
The NFL doesn't need it to have legal merit to suspend him.



Also it must have some merit to it because he is now banned from Uber.
 

Puddington

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Nov 2, 2017
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I don't blame the NFL at all for this. This is the third different accusation against Winston for some form of sexual assault, in addition to his accusations of theft and disruptive behavior.

He also said last year to a class of middle school students that boys should be "strong" and girls should be "silent". There should be no place in the league for somebody like him.

Third?
 
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Coyote Starrk

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The Fallen
Oct 30, 2017
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And since this thread has brought up the old accusations. Here's a link to Winston's countersuit in the interest of representing both sides: http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2076225-jameis-winston-countersuit.html
Which nothing ever came of.


Not sure why it's relevant here with the new allegations that have surfaced. Especially considering the fact he settled the civil suit to make sure it didn't go to court. Which is usually only done when the person doesn't want certain things to become public.


Him suing his victim really only serves to show how much of a degenerate he is.
 

Euron

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Oct 27, 2017
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I thought I read somewhere the other day that there was another unwanted advances incident outside of the Uber and FSU rape cases. I'm probably breaking up the rape case into two separate incidents but my point still stands: He's a repeat offender yet people still defend him.
 
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Coyote Starrk

Coyote Starrk

The Fallen
Oct 30, 2017
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I thought I read somewhere the other day that there was another unwanted advances incident outside of the Uber and FSU rape cases. I'm probably breaking up the rape case into two separate incidents but my point still stands: He's a repeat offender yet people still defend him.
I could understand if he had a spotless record and the person making the accusations had a questionable motive or story, but he has clear history of not giving a shit about women. He sexually assaulted one woman, told little girls that women should "stay silent" and now has groped a total stranger. There is a clear pattern here.



Why anyone would choose his hill to die on I have no idea.
 

Puddington

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Nov 2, 2017
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Which nothing ever came of.


Not sure why it's relevant here with the new allegations that have surfaced. Especially considering the fact he settled the civil suit to make sure it didn't go to court. Which is usually only done when the person doesn't want certain things to become public.


Him suing his victim really only serves to show how much of a degenerate he is.

I already stated why it's relevant, people in this thread were talking about it.

And I don't understand, how does the countersuit show he's a degenerate?
 
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Coyote Starrk

Coyote Starrk

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Oct 30, 2017
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I already stated why it's relevant, people in this thread were talking about it.

And I don't understand, how does the countersuit show he's a degenerate?
Given all the information and facts made available to the public something very wrong clearly happened between him and the woman involved and yet he still had the gall to try and sue his own victim in order to try to muster support from the public.


If that's not something a degenerate would do idk what is.
 

Bitanator

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Oct 27, 2017
10,046
So Ronald Darby not only lied about this incident, but was also one of the two people who submitted an affidavit of the night of the rape

As the news broke, and before investigators could talk to them, Mr. Winston's lawyer had the two witnesses, Mr. Casher and Mr. Darby, submit affidavits attesting to their recollection of that now-distant night. They gave similar accounts: A blond woman who was not intoxicated willingly left the bar with the three football players, they said, and joined Mr. Winston in his room. Because the door was broken and would not close, they looked in and saw the woman giving the quarterback oral sex.

Hope he enjoys that super bowl ring, because he is a despicable piece of shit along with Winston