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Oct 25, 2017
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Sarah Sanders is not a protected class. Being a member of the Trump administration is not a protected class. Anyone who continues to be a Trump loyalist at all is not a protected class. By principle I oppose a business rejecting the patronage of a customer on the grounds of race, religion, gender, etc if there's no valid exceptional reason bar mere bigotry. But there's nothing wrong with a restaurant exercising their right to tell a willing member of a despicable administration to go somewhere else.
 

Mondy

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Oct 25, 2017
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User Banned (1 Week): Inflammatory false equivalencies surrounding race
This is a protest, not discrimination. The difference lies in the relative power of the actors.

I hope you aren't surprised then when restaurants begin to refuse service to gay or black people, they refer to it as a "protest".
 

Dark Knight

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
19,262
So we support a restaurant owners right to deny service to someone based on their beliefs?

I can't agree with this.

Sarah Sanders is a liar and has a belief system I am staunchly opposed to, but public institutions should have no right to discriminate.
I can't roll my eyes hard enough. They are destroying both present and future lives. Simply being turned away is too benign a punishment for these demons.
 

mightynine

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,147
I'm sure ol' Smokey Eye believed that baker could deny service to a gay couple for his beliefs so I have absolutely zero tears to give to her. Go settle for McDonald's drive-thru.
 

Deleted member 12790

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Oct 27, 2017
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"I treat those I disagree with respectfully, which is why I, someone whose job is to be contentious in the public eye, am blasting her across a highly watched twitter account in what is certainly not an attempt to have people harass the shit out of her restaurant IRL"
 

Sexy Fish

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
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NinjaScooter

Member
Oct 25, 2017
54,113
Being a Trump supporter, or a generally awful human being, isn't protected, and shouldn't be. Having someone this hateful and toxic eating at your restaurant could be bad for business. I'd kick her ass out too. Fuck that shit stain.
 

Beartruck

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Oct 25, 2017
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Lol at the notion that this is discrimination. The first amendment doesn't mean people have to put up with assholes.
 

Mathieran

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Oct 25, 2017
12,856
Conservatives want to remove laws that protect people from being discriminated against due to factors beyond their control.

But they sure get upset when they discriminated against for things they can.
 

Planx

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Oct 27, 2017
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I hope you aren't surprised then when restaurants begin to refuse service to gay or black people, they refer to it as a "protest".
So an administration official, who has power and influence in their job that we can only imagine and is denied service based on their abuses of that power and influence, is on the same level as Joe Schmo, gay black patron of Bigoted Restaurant who is kicked out for being gay and/or black
 

Deleted member 8257

Oct 26, 2017
24,586
So we support a restaurant owners right to deny service to someone based on their beliefs?

I can't agree with this.

Sarah Sanders is a liar and has a belief system I am staunchly opposed to, but public institutions should have no right to discriminate.
If that belief system is based on hate, then yes absolutely. Restaurant has the right to deny service to KKK and neo Nazis. Trump adminis no different.
 

BossAttack

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Oct 27, 2017
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So we support a restaurant owners right to deny service to someone based on their beliefs?

I can't agree with this.

Sarah Sanders is a liar and has a belief system I am staunchly opposed to, but public institutions should have no right to discriminate.

But, who will serve the racists and Nazis? Won't somebody think of the racists and Nazis?

Also, a restaurant is not a public institution. It is a private business.

I hope you aren't surprised then when restaurants begin to refuse service to gay or black people, they refer to it as a "protest".

Yes, being black and/or homosexual is the same as being a Republican.

10/10 analogy, would read again.
 

LinkStrikesBack

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
16,348
So we support a restaurant owners right to deny service to someone based on their beliefs?

I can't agree with this.

Sarah Sanders is a liar and has a belief system I am staunchly opposed to, but public institutions should have no right to discriminate.

Hey, that's what they wanted with that ruling on that bakers, who are we to question the legal rulings decide on their watch?
 

Hokahey

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
2,288

No, I wont be bullied off the forum for thinking it wrong to support discrimination of any kind.

If someone put up a sign that said "No Liberals Served" I suspect the reaction here would be much different.

I don't support discrimination against belief systems, period. It's what has made me a staunch supporter of civil rights for all and I won't compromise my beliefs even when the person being discriminated against opposes me.

We have standards, or we don't.
 

Yokijirou

Member
Oct 27, 2017
663
I find this "google review" hilarious:


21AirDrop
16 reviews
2 minutes ago-
Intolerance can be a two-way street. Evicting those you don't politically agree with is showing your lack of humanity. I find your actions sad and the antithesis of a liberal's view on tolerance. I'll not be visiting again.
 

Heshinsi

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,091
It'll happen, you wait. This sets a horrible precedent that looks to harm a lot more people than just Sarah Sanders.
Discriminating against people based on their ethnicity or sexual orientation is illegal. How does someone "protest" black and/or gay individuals without falling afoul of already existing laws?
 

BernardoOne

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Oct 25, 2017
10,289
So we support a restaurant owners right to deny service to someone based on their beliefs?

I can't agree with this.

Sarah Sanders is a liar and has a belief system I am staunchly opposed to, but public institutions should have no right to discriminate.
No, we support a restaurant owner right to deny service to someone based on their actions. And I'd say willfully working for a fascist administration that is running concentration camps for children right now is one of the actions that should get you blocked.
 

NinjaScooter

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Oct 25, 2017
54,113
This shit is like the first amendment in how misunderstood the civil rights/discrimination laws are. Some people are dense as fuck. If someone comes in wearing a shirt that says "I HATE BLACK PEOPLE" should you have to serve them? If someone comes in in full KKK or nazi uniform should you have to serve them?
 

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Oct 27, 2017
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No, I wont be bullied off the forum for thinking it wrong to support discrimination of any kind.

If someone put up a sign that said "No Liberals Served" I suspect the reaction here would be much different.

I don't support discrimination against belief systems, period. It's what has made me a staunch supporter of civil rights for all and I won't compromise my beliefs even when the person being discriminated against opposes me.

We have standards, or we don't.

Whataboutism with a side of tolerate my intolerance. You certainly have standards alright.
 

excelsiorlef

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Oct 25, 2017
73,316
No, I wont be bullied off the forum for thinking it wrong to support discrimination of any kind.

If someone put up a sign that said "No Liberals Served" I suspect the reaction here would be much different.

I don't support discrimination against belief systems, period. It's what has made me a staunch supporter of civil rights for all and I won't compromise my beliefs even when the person being discriminated against opposes me.

We have standards, or we don't.

Sarah Huckabee Sanders thanks you for speaking out for Sarah Huckabee Sanders even though you're not Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
 

Alucrid

Chicken Photographer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,411
No, I wont be bullied off the forum for thinking it wrong to support discrimination of any kind.

If someone put up a sign that said "No Liberals Served" I suspect the reaction here would be much different.

I don't support discrimination against belief systems, period. It's what has made me a staunch supporter of civil rights for all and I won't compromise my beliefs even when the person being discriminated against opposes me.

We have standards, or we don't.

you can totally do that though?
 

Mondy

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,456
Discriminating against people based on their ethnicity or sexual orientation is illegal. How does someone "protest" black and/or gay individuals without falling afoul of already existing laws?

In the age of Trump? I would've thought fairly easily. The Trump admin breaks laws every fucking day.
 
OP
OP

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Oct 27, 2017
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No, I wont be bullied off the forum for thinking it wrong to support discrimination of any kind.

If someone put up a sign that said "No Liberals Served" I suspect the reaction here would be much different.

I don't support discrimination against belief systems, period. It's what has made me a staunch supporter of civil rights for all and I won't compromise my beliefs even when the person being discriminated against opposes me.

We have standards, or we don't.

Oh quit it with the victim complex buddy.

Her civil rights were not violated.
 

Hokahey

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
2,288
Sarah Sanders is not a protected class. Being a member of the Trump administration is not a protected class. Anyone who continues to be a Trump loyalist at all is not a protected class. By principle I oppose a business rejecting the patronage of a customer on the grounds of race, religion, gender, etc if there's no valid exceptional reason bar mere bigotry. But there's nothing wrong with a restaurant exercising their right to tell a willing member of a despicable administration to go somewhere else.

This is pretty reasonable. I can agree with this 99%. But it still doesn't sit well with me if we start refusing to serve people based on political affiliation. We all have our viewpoints and it potentially gets very ugly if we take this approach.