Odd, I thought one big problem with Clinton was how everyone assumed she would win the primary.
Now Sanders is the presumptive nominee even before the fucking Midterms.
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US PoliERA 2018 |OT5| A Total Goat Rodeo
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Odd, I thought one big problem with Clinton was how everyone assumed she would win the primary.
Now Sanders is the presumptive nominee even before the fucking Midterms.
Really? She doesn't seem to have to shrewd political skills of McCaskill and Manchin.
North Dakota and Indiana, respectively.
I'm sorry, this reeks of a lack of knowledge of Heidi and this race. What???? lol
Cramer was passed over at first because the NRSC thought he was so bad...
I admittedly know a lot less about Heitkamp than about McCaskill and Tester, but a condescending tone isn't helpful: enlighten me.
I mean, it's a condescending tone because you're speaking in declaratives about a race you don't seem too knowledgable about. That's kind of annoying!
Well, you're acting like you're super knowledgeable about the race without actually demonstrating you are. Also, a poll a couple weeks ago had Heitkemp down 4 to Cramer, so I don't know where you're getting such confidence from.
Was there any recent pulling that should have us be concerned? Or are those states too far into Trump territory?
I don't know, but there was a dude in a Bernie shirt at the Families Belong Together rally in Lexington today with a sign that read "Amy Mcgrath (the D nominee for our House district) is a War Criminal". Doesn't seem very helpful to demonize the person we should be voting for in the midterms, but what do I know.
When someone doesn't understand the difference between someone writing "Sanders should be the presumptive nominee" and someone thinking it means that Sanders is currently the presumptive nominee, I guess it is semantics.
It does not change my underlying argument, yet you chose to latch onto it.
Heitekamp is a very strong incumbent and if she loses the state in this environment it's basically unwinnable.
I'd also add that the poll showing Heidi down 4 was still within the margin of error, and because of its strict no-robocall laws, ND tends to have a scarcity of polling every election cycle.
A poll from 10 days ago had Heitkemp down by four. It's one poll and within the margin of error, so it's not a lost cause, but considering the environment I would say it's not a race you should consider in the bag like Kaitos seems to be.
Good lord.
Heidi Heitkamp is a North Dakotan institution. She's been a statewide elected Democrat since the 80s. She only lost her run for governor because she was running against Hoeven and got breast cancer.
Because North Dakota is so small, it's basically the retail politics state. That's how Heidi ran so many points ahead of Obama and got so many Romney voters on the same ballot.
The past 6 years have been Heidi continuing to do retail politics, focus on rural mail and broadband (huge issues in ND) and focus on Native youth. That's why her approvals are sky high. She basically has done everything to appeal to any potential gettable voter plus her name rec. That's why even dumbass Kevin Cramer starts his ads with "we all like Heidi, but" he's dealing with an unconfortabl truth: North Dakota voters really fucking like Heidi.
And then you're trying to say that she's not "shrewd"? She made sure she was photographed in Trump tower in the transition, she ended up on AF1 and went on stage with Trump where he praised her, and then Trump had had her STANDING NEXT TO HIM when he was signing the farm bill and Cramer freaked out. These are now in her ads. So when you say she's now shrewd, it makes me think you don't quite understand the dynamics here.
Also the NRSC passed over Cramer at first because he can't get his foot out of his mouth and always says incendiary things about women which is how Heidi beat Rick Berg in the first place. They were stuck with him when everyone else they wanted passed and Trump stupidly told Cramer to run. And now Trump hasn't attacked Heidi because he likes her so much.
So yes I do understand this race.
I also said she was likely to win, not that it's in the bag. Those are different things.
Because it was completely wrong. No one said he was the presumptive nominee "even before the fucking midterms". It also ignores that Robinson intentionally uses quotes around "pragmatic" and "presumptive nominee" that suggests that he doesn't really agree with connotations and denotations of those words.
Nevermind, not worth having a discussion with you. The majority of your posts are complaints about Democrats anyway, not sure why I bothered.
Ok I'm not going to worry about North Dakota. Now can you write an analysis about Indiana? If we can win that one?
It's not that I'm not worried about North Dakota, but at the end of the day, I think Heidi is probably a favorite, especially since we'll get so little polling in North Dakota as is.
I think Donnelly could lose Indiana. It's very 50/50 and I don't have a good sense of Brain as a candidate.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/105/hr629
That article fuck right on off
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Eh, why the fuck not. For good measure:
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Maybe you've seen a more recent poll, but I wouldn't consider 50% approval sky high. It's not bad though seeing she still has a +17 net approval rating.
Was that so hard? I appreciate the explanation, even with the attitude. I'm skeptical because I learned my lesson in 2016 and I'm not sure everyone here did.
this is argument #1 for voting for younger candidates: having less of a record is good!
Morning Consult favorable polls are garbage. Her approval is much higher in every one else's tracking polls.
And yes it was hard. I was on my phone and had to stop what I was doing to explain to you something I didn't really want to because you refused to take my word for it and questioned my knowledge of the subject matter and now I'm late.
I'm thinking we keep MT,ND,WI,MI,OH,MO,FL,WV,VA,PA. Lose IN.
But gain NV,AZ, and TN.
We would then have 51 seats, I think.
Hey man, you could have responded later. :P I don't think it's unreasonable to question anyone's stance here.
Tennessean here. I've seen way more Bredeson ads and think people here still like him from when he was governor. I'm expecting us to win this shit.
I'm thinking we keep MT,ND,WI,MI,OH,MO,FL,WV,VA,PA. Lose IN.
But gain NV,AZ, and TN.
We would then have 51 seats, I think.
+1 point to the 36 year old good-lookin' gay veteran Rhodes Scholar from the Rust Belt who's thinking of running.
(I mostly want to see all the shrill MAGA bitches from my old neighborhood lose their shit)
If it makes you feel better, he's more likely to win after this last week. How much more likely, I can't tell you.
So I'm watching the Axe files with Rubio and man...you can literally SEE the potential.
You take away the mans insecurities and remove his cowardice he would've practically waltzed right in the White House.
Such a waste of political talent. But he chose his bed
You take away the mans insecurities and remove his cowardice he would've practically waltzed right in the White House.
Such a waste of political talent. But he chose his bed
No one said he was perfect. Funny how purity is applied. I definitely have my issues with Sanders, as well. But for me, he's closer to my kind of politics than most other politicians.
I'd be down for a younger candidate if they're closer to my views than most other politicians.
The fucking article you posted made an argument for pu... Why the fuck am I even wasting my time with you?
Swift-boating proved that people are willing to use anything about you against you, and that people are still willing to believe anything. Bernie Sanders has already proven that playing basketball, running for a train, and everything else is less popular nationally than, say, a woman running for president. He also isn't willing to tell Trump off the way that is needed by the next candidate that runs, he called him "Mr. Trump" too many times.
Clinton all but admitted in her book that she should have told Trump to back away from her during the debates. Whoever can do this, early and often, will have a better chance - not someone who seemingly possesses the least tempting features for Trump to criticize.
Swift boating is entirely true. Trump would probably say that Sanders wants to throw everyone into gulags. I agree that Sanders needs some more bite as well against Trump.
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