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iPhone X | OT | Hello Future | November 3
- Thread starter wachie
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the biggest problem I seem to have with app switching is with a keyboard present.. which is incredibly troublesome in apps where you can't dismiss the keyboard. or where it is more than one or two gestures to dismiss the keyboard. outside of that I love the app switcher.. just wish they would fix it on apps with keyboards.
sorry, wasn't quite clear. There was no training through failures. Face ID takes something 50% wrong, and through enough passcode unlocks will eventually train it close enough. Touch ID was way more strict than that. The vast majority of your print needed to be correct. You didn't "correct" Touch ID, you added to the information on your print. For Face ID.. because of glasses, scarves, hats, etc.. The system has to be able to train even though a huge portion of the visual information is "false".
that's what I meant by training. You "Fine tuned" Touch ID. You literally train Face ID with data that would otherwise be considered false/negative.
They probably should make training more visible than it is now. For example they could give an option in the settings to train it further. The problem right now seems to be that people are accidentally training wrong faces by entering their passcode without knowing that it does that.
You are correct, that is important nuance
It doesn't train every time it fails and you enter the code, it has to hit a minimum level of recognition, but not enough to unlock the phone. A total stranger can enter in the passcode as many times they want, as long as their face isn't close to yours no data is going to be entered into the training
nah... IMHO it's fine how it is now. The phone isn't even two weeks. This hubbub will die down and like I said earlier.. for 99.99999999999% (etc) of the population this will be fast, accurate and secure. Every video reported are immediate relations after training. if you can't trust your siblings/kids, who can you trust? The only real security concern is the same security concern for Touch ID. i.e. people of significant importance.. who probably shouldn't be using biometrics anyway.
I never noticed Touch ID becoming more reliable over time, either on the 6s or the 7. It was always the same barely passable 50-60% on my fingerprints. Face ID just after a few days has been noticeably faster, more consistent, and was unlocking from angles and distances it couldn't before.
I know but that doesn't change anything. It's training wrong faces and they could prevent that by letting the user have some kind of input on it.
it's not training "wrong" faces. it's training "very similar' faces that are direct genetic relations. HUGE difference. As mentioned a couple of posts ago, WRONG faces won't train no matter how many times you enter a passcode.
No. If it's not your face it's the wrong face. Whether it's similar to yours or not is irrelevant.
I feel like that some people didn't do the initial "finger training" well enough or something because my mother always has issues with her finger and TouchID, but for me it was more reliable than FaceID at this point. Almost never had a misfire.
Does anyone feel wrong about the phone being naked? I took it out of the case and it feels that way. With a case it feels complete: flush camera, soft grip, protected, stress-free replaceable outer shell. Despite the quality materials, these phones feel designed to be in a case, Apple provides the inner skeleton and you finish it up with the skin you wish.
And I've used most of my iPhones naked, most of the time. Including my previous 6s+ (which already felt a bit that way, but I couldn't take the extra width a case gives to it).
And I've used most of my iPhones naked, most of the time. Including my previous 6s+ (which already felt a bit that way, but I couldn't take the extra width a case gives to it).
No, though I've had the "you're touching it wrong" comments plenty of times. The first-gen Touch ID sensor would only work a couple days great and then drop off a cliff to almost 0% detection. I swapped three 5s phones, tried all manner of angles and multiple finger scans before I gave up; Apple Geniuses had no idea, either. The second-gen sensor on the 6s and 7 was somewhat better, and I feel like the firmware improved over time as well, but it was never the kind of flawless experience others had. I generally needed more than one press every time I unlocked. Often I would press and it would just end up activating Siri; very frustrating experience. Touch ID sensor on the MBP only works rarely. I seem to be part of a biological group that has fingerprints that aren't easily detected, maybe they aren't deep enough or something. My mother has the same issue on her iPad mini, so it's probably a genetic thing.
Face ID has been a godsend by comparison.
I'm the complete opposite. I've always cased my phones, except I think the first iPhone, but I see the stainless steel shining through my black case and get the urge to go caseless. It's a travesty to cover up such a beautiful phone.
What case are you using?
Unlike my 6s which I was happy to cover up, this feels wrong to keep wrapped up. For now I have the caudabe lucid clear and orzly screen protector. Still not ideal but at least keeps most of the phone visible
I definitely prefer the silicone over the leather. It feels way better in the hand and the red one I have from my 6 hasn't aged at all.
If you don't like the wear, I would recommend the silicone. All of the leather will change color, scratch, mark, etc. Some may say this gives it character but if it were the phone that was scratched, they likely wouldn't say it adds character to the phone haha. ;)
Part of me wonders if the boost in materials was a conscious decision. The matte black and piano black finishes on the 7 were sexy in a way iPhones hadn't been before. And the X ups the premium, luxury quality.
From a marketing POV, a cased iPhone is a lost branding opportunity for Apple. Imagine if every MacBook had a case on it. So I could see Schiller saying, "We need to really make these things more like jewelry or a nice watch. Make people want to show them off."
I've observed this as well with my usb-c multimeter. When it switches from 5v to 9v the phone does the charging chime/vibration again.
it's children under 13 that face ID has trouble with per apple, which is a huge difference from your example of babies. Granted, children under 13 don't have serious security needs
Was supposed to get my iPhone today, but got hit with this after it was on a truck out for delivery:
"Due to operating conditions, your package may be delayed. / Delivery will be rescheduled."
I imagine the driver's shift finished and decided to go home. Hopefully I'll have it tomorrow
"Due to operating conditions, your package may be delayed. / Delivery will be rescheduled."
I imagine the driver's shift finished and decided to go home. Hopefully I'll have it tomorrow
Mine just came in. Ordered at like 3:11 am EDT the night of the preorder to the DC area. Apple ETA was the 16th, UPS ETA was the 13th, and it came in this morning.
This Android "Move to iOS" thing sure is taking a lot of time. I'm loving the form factor of the phone so far. Thing's smaller than my 6p yet seems to have a bigger screen! Not sure whether I'll prefer Face ID over the 6p's fingerprint unlock, though...
This Android "Move to iOS" thing sure is taking a lot of time. I'm loving the form factor of the phone so far. Thing's smaller than my 6p yet seems to have a bigger screen! Not sure whether I'll prefer Face ID over the 6p's fingerprint unlock, though...
The aging on the brown looks much better compared with other colours. I used to own a red leather case which just looked more dirty rather than 'aged'.
That's true, but the implications of it are really limited. The training is only temporary and requires you to enter the password immediately after a failure. So while you can teach it the wrong face if it is over the threshold, you have to do so pretty deliberately
oh sweet. Just 3 more apps on my home screen yet to be updated. ChargePoint, Spotify, and Google Maps
I'm tempted to get a white silicone case, but I remember not being in love with the silicone case I had on my 6.
I hated how much lint it would attract from my pocket. I would always see tons of lint along the edges of the screen between the case and the phone. Also I can see the white one getting grimy real quick.
The leather case just feels a lot more premium to me. I had the black leather for the better part of 3 years on my 6 and it basically just got smoother over time, never cracked or showed any other imperfections due to wear. I could see that happening with the lighter colors though. This time I got Aubergine so I'm not sure how that will hold up.
If I don't stay leather I`m leaning White or Black - my wife picked one up at launch and she's been happy
I`ve used the Black, Product Red & Saddle Brown cases over the years for every iPhone since 5- the Black and the Brown seem to wear the best but Cosmos Blue reminds me of the Product Red Leather Case which looked awful after a few months
Google maps is the only app that I regularly use that hasn't been updated for the iPhone X. Compared to the upgrade to the resolution of the iPhone 6 Plus, developers have upgraded to the new format a hell of a lot quicker this time around
You can get into the spotify iphone x beta via Testflight. It looks dope on the X
Just found a small piece of dust/debris inside the camera lens on the back. Luckily, it doesn't seem to affect image quality. Still thinking of getting it swapped, since I shouldn't be dealing with this sort of thing with a brand new $1100 phone.
I used the Product Red with my 6 and the black and red looked dope. I bought the red again when I got my X on launch day but haven't opened it yet cause I'm thinking about going caseless. But now that I'm seeing the white one it also looks really good, I dig the stormtrooper look. Difficult...
Definitely get it swapped. I had a scratch under the screen on my original and swapped it. Totally worth it.
You can go to Apple, it's their product and still under warranty.
Same here
Use the phone naked for a year then exchange just before your warranty expires. Boom, new phone
Yep, Apple usually requires signature but sometimes the carriers don't (AT&T didn't for me). FedEx left mine at the door and didn't even knock. Luckily I had heard the truck and went to my door to check.
Yeah, delivery times are already down to 2-3 weeks in Europe, should go down in NA soon too. I think if you check the pick-up options in the mornings you should be able to get it even earlier.
If there's none in stock, what happens? Can they order you one in while you keep yours?
I had to go through this exact thing. This was on launch day. They had no new stock of black to sell but they did get two "repair" units - these are basically units Apple sends to stores for replacement purposes when a device breaks. They don't come in a retail box. Since the phone is brand new, I didn't care they were repair units. These are considered repair units not for sale (which are normally refurbished units). So I swapped mine out for that. The box is came in was basically a slim plain white box, not much thicker than the phone itself, I got to keep my original box and accessories. The phone was brand new, had the plastic still on it.
Some on macrumors have reported being able to swap the entire thing and get a new sealed box I wasn't so lucky since I got the black one, but my new one is awesome.
Yes. If they don't have any, you keep it until the replacement comes in a couple days later
my advice re: dust in camera. Give it a month for stock and manufacturing to normalize a bit. I've seen several reports of dust in the camera and if it's a launch thing the last thing you wanna do is go through several units trying to get a perfect one. You may have better luck after things have calmed down a little.
For what it's worth I have a tiny spec of dust in both my front and back camera and I'm gonna just live with it because I'm paranoid about other potential issues with replacements.
that said, you're absolutely right that it's an $1100 phone and it's totally your right to swap it until you're happy
For what it's worth I have a tiny spec of dust in both my front and back camera and I'm gonna just live with it because I'm paranoid about other potential issues with replacements.
that said, you're absolutely right that it's an $1100 phone and it's totally your right to swap it until you're happy
I need some help.
I received my phone from Swappa today, and it works great. The only problem is when I go online to check warranty status and buy AppleCare, it says my phone isn't activated. I've made some calls on it already, and they've been great. What do I have to do to activate the phone? I'm on T-Mobile, by the way.
I received my phone from Swappa today, and it works great. The only problem is when I go online to check warranty status and buy AppleCare, it says my phone isn't activated. I've made some calls on it already, and they've been great. What do I have to do to activate the phone? I'm on T-Mobile, by the way.