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Luke Cage | Season 2 on Netflix | 6/22/18 (Spoiler tagged discussion)
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Just because Loeb says something doesn't mean the showrunners or episode directors give enough of a shit about those kinds of details.
I'm not saying they shouldn't defend themselves or their product. You'd just think they'd get the memo that bullets don't work and at the very least you should try something else.
Not totally sure if it's a spoiler (one of the Netflix show icons spoiled it already), but I'll tag it just in case.
Her robot hand is TERRIBLE, I was excited to see it but it seriously looks like a cheap Halloween costume.
They were able to CG out her arm in episodes 1-4, but they couldn't put in at least a little bit of robo hand effects?
If they didn't want to do CG or they didn't have it in the budget, at least they could have made a better looking practical glove
They were able to CG out her arm in episodes 1-4, but they couldn't put in at least a little bit of robo hand effects?
If they didn't want to do CG or they didn't have it in the budget, at least they could have made a better looking practical glove
He'd at least put the fear of god into you, can't fake that shit. Plus he'd still have to kick everyone else's asses.
It's okay so far, loving Bushmaster and the Jamaican scenes. But the amount of musical performances is starting to annoy me.
Well, Luke himself hits the nail on the head at one point in the season when a guy shoots at him and he says "everybody wants to see is the myth is true, huh?" And this makes sense, tbh. Are the viral videos faked? Is he just a mega tough dude with an over-the-top reputation? Maybe he got lucky and it spread?
It's easy to believe why people wouldn't believe it's true until they see a bullet bounce off themselves, tbh. Or at least... it is if you take these four shows as their own enclosed thing. It becomes a lot more difficult to believe if you actually try to accept they're in the MCU, as with all the other shit that's happened in New York alone you'd think people would take more supernatural shit at face value.
It's literally addressed in like the first episode. Can't go back to the boss and say you didn't at least try to put up a fight.
As for Luke's dodging? Yeah, that's pretty damn stupid.. but maybe he's bored mid-fight. I'd do some stupid shit too if I knew I wasn't going to get hurt.
The worst part for me is the follow ups to shooting him. Ok, you shot him point blank with an assault rifle, so your next step is a knife/baseball bat or even worse yet.. the dude with the chain? Come on man..
Diamondback felt like a WWE wrestler with a tool story line. "IT WAS ME! YOU THOUGHT IT WAS COTTONMOUTH BUT I WAS THE ONE REALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING! AHAHAHAHAHAHA!"
in the decades of forum browsing, i have never ever used an ignore list.
i always let people thru, no matter how wild and crazy and wrong.
until now.
I'd be willing to fully buy into the whole "test the myth" thing in the first season when he was more of a Batman-esque figure that people didn't know much about. But in season 2, he's so popular and notable that he has his own app (which is another mild issue I have with this season but that's another discussion) Anyone that operates out of Harlem should get the message loud and clear that bullets are just completely ineffective.
At my most charitable, I'm willing to give some leeway to bushmaker and the other bosses who operate in the other boroughs where they might not be up on Luke cage as much as people who operate out of Harlem but going back to bushmaker,
when him and Luke first meet in the Brooklyn warehouse, Bush's henchman take turns trying to injure luke which culminates in them throwing a grenade at him where he just absorbs the blast in his hands and then just casually walks out
My other problem with the whole bullets not working is that It seems like the writers sheepishly wrote themselves out of the corner of "well why wouldn't everyone just carry Judas bullets?" but not compensating for it by replacing it with another credible threat that can actually affect Luke.
Im all for them defending themselves but it would have been interesting if these crime bosses, whose entire crime empire is in jeopardy thanks to one man, would seemingly take him more seriously as the season went on and at least tried to incorporate new methods and ideas of trying to hurt him even if it was a complete failure.
Oh, no disagreement there.. They pretty much have to get more creative when it comes to posing a threat to him, particularly since the Judas bullet angle is a wash now. Thing is we are still talking about street level threats. This is all street gangs have access to realistically. The only way to remedy that is go full comic and bring in Sci-Fi energy weapons or full on traps created just for him.
It's not like he can't be killed. Drowning, suffocation, sonic attacks, psychic attacks, magic, concussion blasts etc. But none of that fits with street level gang stuff.
I mean if you are so fragile that just reading opinions hurts you that much I dunno why you are even on a forum.
Anyone: Mariah Dillard.
Bushmaster: Stokes!.........Mariah Stokes.
This never got old.
9 episodes in.....this show really should have been like 10 episodes.
Trying to marathon this is exhausting.
Bushmaster: Stokes!.........Mariah Stokes.
This never got old.
9 episodes in.....this show really should have been like 10 episodes.
Trying to marathon this is exhausting.
So... this was really good.
I'm just gonna spoiler tag all my thoughts, because, hell go watch the whole thing for yourself.
I'm just gonna spoiler tag all my thoughts, because, hell go watch the whole thing for yourself.
- I totally thought Bushmaster was the dude that Moon Knight cut his goddamn face off, but that was some other bush-league villain ba-dum-tsh.
- Nice to see them going Now Thats What I Call Dancehall for the soundtrack, but they totally fucked up having Sun Is Shining for the Bridge fight.
Whats the matter, couldn't get clearance for the absolute perfect track to go there? - Holy shit, Shades is a goddamn fascinating character.
He was basically The Starscream in S1, but they fleshed him the hell out in S2. - Some of the writing by obvious young'uns in older characters mouths was really jarring.
Really, Luke Cages aged preacher dad is calling him swole?
Really, Mariah is calling herself bad and boujee and talking about ghosting?
Don't even get me started on Luke dabbing.
This shits gonna feel so dated in 18 months. - Good riddance Claire, you served your purpose as a plot device and weren't bringing anything to the table.
Playing Night Nurse as the BGM while you said "Whats my name" was a little bit too cutesy on-the-nose too. - Those Italian mobsters playing that shit smart, straight away with the plastic bag over the face.
- The new status quo by the end is a pretty good move too. Mariah called it when she said Luke Cage is a boring ass character and his dad had more of a spark to him, because... yeah, Netflix Luke Cage is a boring ass character. At least theres some setup to do some interesting shit with him now and give him some quandaries.
- When Luke Cage said "I'm a rook" - naw, you're a Bishop. Lemond Bishop. and this is your Secret Origin.
Ugh. Speaking of magic and drowning
when bushmaker and cage are fighting on the bridge over piranha Jones, I felt like that whole scene was such a cop out for 2 reasons. 1) bushmaker paralyzes cage and then kicks him into the river so it felt like a tense moment with the thought that cage might actually drown and die because he's paralyzed. Nope. He just shakes it off and swims to the surface. 2) with how heavy handed they were with all these herbs and crazy healing properties to the point that Tilda is a major character with her own herb shop , I was expecting some kind of "magical warfare" that would have the ability to knock cage down a peg or two and pose some kind of threat. Alas, bushmaker pulls out the dust that paralyzes cage and I'm like ok, finally something that provides cage with some kind of weakness and then they don't really go any further with it other than bushmaker trying to use the same paralyzing dust later on which cage knocks out of his hand. Maybe they didn't go with that angle because it was too cliche/stereotypical but it's just odd to think about the fact that there wasn't really anything that came close to standing by in cage's way other than bushmaker himself
Lol. That misses the point of Luke Cage. It's like a video game where you play as Superman and everyone has Kryptonite weapons. You're not really invulnerable now, are you?
Agreed but thats why the introduction of the judas bullet was dumb to begin with.
It was a militarized weapon that as fit for mass production. It's not even like it had any "special" properties that suggested that there could only feasibly be a handful that could be created. At least with kryptonite, you'd actually have to get your hands on kryptonite and enough of it to supply an entire criminal organization.
So there really isn't much in the way to assume that these highly connected crime bosses wouldn't look to try to acquire judas bullets specifically for cage other than the fact that he now shrugs them off because he's suddenly stronger and anybody caught with one automatically gets hit with a felony.
Except they are. They're explicitly made from Chitauri metal.
Ah ok. In that case i misspoke but the point still stands.
If they want to disregard the Judas bullet, let it be because no one has managed to get their hands on the precious metal as oppose to well, it just doesn't work on him anymore.
As a son of Jamaican immigrants, this season is making me very happy so far. Bushmaster is a rude boy, indeed.
Co-signed. Those bits where the bulletproof man couldn't defend himself from freaking bullets was super annoying.
And yeah, Bushmaster's a fucking boss. I'm on episode six so far. What I love about this season is how everyone (Luke included lmao) has someone telling them they need to chill out and choose another path before things end badly for them, and yet all of them are too stubborn or too unwilling to stray from their narrow view of what they think life should be and what they expect of themselves to move off their path. Hopefully Luke figures it out, but Bushmaster and Mariah are screwed I think.
I'm baffled as to wtf IGN is talking about. This is miles and miles better than Iron Fist and Defenders.
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I'm disappointed they just made Shades/Commanche a prison thing, though. :/ Maybe Shades is still lying to himself, but listening to himself go backwards while Commanche doesn't is so sad!
Not that I care, but is there any reason that Infinity War isn't mentioned? Is it set before IW?
Again, I don't really care. I've long accepted their two different universes.
Again, I don't really care. I've long accepted their two different universes.
The Netflix shows use the original battle of NY as the launchpad for their TV universe. Other than that they ignore the rest of the MCU. Which is just as well, otherwise they'd limit their storytelling.
Nah it felt like it was written by old people trying to sound young. Luke's friend who sells the t-shirts just wasn't right at all. Like he's trying to sound like a kid, but it really just sounds like an old man trying to sound like a kid.
What's the consensus on season 2 so far? I sort of liked the first half of season 1 but it totally fell apart with Diamondback. I didn't even finish the last few episodes because of it. Just want to know if s2 is worth a try.
My tiers for reference, in order:
Great:
DD S1
JJ S1
Good:
First half of LC S1
Ok to Meh:
JJ S2
DD S2
Bad to Terrible:
Defenders
Second half of LC S1
Iron Fist
My tiers for reference, in order:
Great:
DD S1
JJ S1
Good:
First half of LC S1
Ok to Meh:
JJ S2
DD S2
Bad to Terrible:
Defenders
Second half of LC S1
Iron Fist
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Put it in with these, though I found it to be great personally. Notably, no 2nd half slump like S1 had.
Well personally I hated Luke Cage after "That" happened. The whole Diamondback arc was arse. Season 2 is much better.
I'm not gonna lie. This has been the most "Enjoyable" marvel series for me. The contrast between the Jamaican scenes and brooklyn African american stuff was a breath of fresh. Actually felt like i was watching a movie. Dunno how to explain it. Oh and i'm only at episode 5.
My show ratings thus far...
Daredevil S1/S2> Jessica Jones S1> Agentsofshield S4> Luke Cage S2 > Punisher > Iron fist > Defenders.
And i honestly liked all these shows.
My show ratings thus far...
Daredevil S1/S2> Jessica Jones S1> Agentsofshield S4> Luke Cage S2 > Punisher > Iron fist > Defenders.
And i honestly liked all these shows.
The lady who plays Mariah's daughter is fine as hell, but she's one of the worst actresses I've seen on TV in a long time. She does not talk or move like any human being I've known. She's like an automaton fresh out of Cardboard Acting School. Next time you watch a scene with her in it, pay attention to her face, her body language, her voice. It's like an alien in human skin pretending to act human. She almost dies in a horrible way in one pivotal scene, and she shows absolutely no terror or fear or excitement or pain or determination or any human qualities whatsoever. She just stands in scenes, talking with no feeling in her words, with barely any body language. No matter the context of the conversation she's having with anyone, she always sounds like she's recalling what she had for lunch yesterday.
So, I'm on Ep. 6 and I'm trying to wonder if the show is trying to make me side with Misty's rule-breaking, because I'm firmly on the side of the Captain.