I'm getting "no true scotsman" vibes from this accusation.Accusations of "slacktivism", basically hopping onto "justice bandwagons" without actually caring very deeply or being very knowledgeable about a subject. There have been questions about the "genuineness" of many of the people who rant about it online, or if they are simply doing it because it's a popular thing.
Pathologizing their opponent, many people who don't have degrees in sociology or psychology, in the "movement" spend a lot of time playing arm-chair analyst with people they've never met on the internet, and attacking them based on what they perceive to be as psychological or mental deficiencies.
Let's just say, at least for myself, my standards are raised. I absolutely despise the association of mental disability with stupidity("retarded") or quirkiness("autistic") due to having family with them. I ardently believe that even the small jokes or vocabulary that we take for granted are incredibly harmful. There is enough evidence out there that language influences culture. Why do you think we no longer tolerate non-black people using the N-word? I also stopped using the word "trap" to describe crossdressing individuals. It's an obviously bigoted statement in comparison to Japan's "otoko no ko" term for them.Lacking sense of humor or taking some jokes too seriously, or the proverbial "making a mountain out of a molehille". The idea that some of the things that get brigaded against weren't really worth it, or there was no reason to get upset about it.
As noted before, I agree there are people out there guilty of this(including myself). I do think we need to chill the hell down. We can find something offensive while calmly discussing why we feel that way.Not being able to engage in constructive discussions and getting emotional or angry as opposed to being logical and arguing their points in a calm rational manner.
Such "hate" for whites and men is totally understandable in response to what they've done to them. They still pale in comparison to the misogyny and racism by whites, thanks to systematic oppression that has murdered and ruined the lives of billions.The idea that many of them are just as hateful and mean as what they accuse their opponents of being, but simply reserve their bigotry for whites and men.
I think the problem is that people on the internet take screenshots of what teenagers post on Tumblr, and use them as examples of what all activists want. It's not that simple.
These are anti-feminist cartoons from early 1900s. And if it wasn't for the dresses they were wearing, you could have easily mistake them for modern day anti-feminists propaganda.
Social justice will always have an image problem no matter ho kind, considerate, and reasonable they act.
Do people keep missing the "More Modern Backlash" part? There was the PC backlash of the 90s and this is the latest iteration. The pushback against these shifts died down in the late 90s or early 2000s and returned at some point after the 2012 election. Probably around or a bit after Gamergate is when this mess started heating up.
Well I feel like this is complicated, because obviously you can't paint everyone who cares about Social Justice negatively, and you can't paint everyone who feels like some "SJW's" go overboard as being knuckle-dragging misogynists.
Yeah, because the left has made the term one of shame or something that only Gamergates use or whatever instead of just embracing it, so the people that use it know that calling someone an SJW annoys them.
Too much Leftism burned your brain.I'm all 5. I have no issue being rude or playing armchair psychologist. Doesn't take a degree to call you out. I'm an asshole, unreasonable, unflinching and I love it. I don't bend over to Nazis, Racists, and Misogynistic's. I fight them and their allies the Centrists.
Damn, way to go. Keep trying to change the world from atop your ivory tower!I'm all 5. I have no issue being rude or playing armchair psychologist. Doesn't take a degree to call you out. I'm an asshole, unreasonable, unflinching and I love it. I don't bend over to Nazis, Racists, and Misogynistic's. I fight them and their allies the Centrists.
I should read this articleIt's not the fault of social justice. It's the fault of people who don't really engage with arguments or data. See my thread "In Defense of Social Justice", which many posters who like to attack social justice seem to have ignored: https://www.resetera.com/threads/in-defense-of-social-justice-current-affairs.46487/
Damn, way to go. Keep trying to change the world from atop your ivory tower!
God, this part is too real. I've had so many conversations where I really need to continue but they just go "I don't know why we're arguing" and me continuing would make it look like I'm in the wrong for making fuss when clearly there's peace.Them: ...Look, I never said feminists were bad. They're just exhausting to be around and preachy so I don't know why we're arguing.
I've never understood the right's terms.
Conservative - So, you're against progress?
Social justice warrior as an insult - You think it's wrong to fight for social justice?
I haven't bothered to look, but HG101's discord seems fine.I have a related question. Internet seems to be brimming with alt-right, especially the former place. How many socially accepting forums like era are out there? The gaming forums and reddit are a mess. I want to know if are on an island surrounded by sharks, or if we are the sharks surrounding alt-right nazis?
Era is by far the most left leaning place I've found on the internet. GAF before it.I have a related question. Internet seems to be brimming with alt-right, especially the former place. How many socially accepting forums like era are out there? The gaming forums and reddit are a mess. I want to know if are on an island surrounded by sharks, or if we are the sharks surrounding alt-right nazis?
as if, on its face, actually advocating for social justice is an onerous thing at all? fuck these idiots. I'll gladly wear that tag
yes, because fighting discrimination and bigotry is somehow something I should be at all ashamed of as a minority? LMFAO bunch of obviously privileged and white ass mfers in here. Can smell y'all form a miles away it's so obvious. Go the fuck back to 4chan with that toxicity.Makes me fucking sick reading this bullshit
Good thing I've literally never heard someone use itSJW need to pick their battles.
Going off as language police on campus is the wrong way to go.
But tackling real inequalities and injustices is the right way to go.
But nobody is going to win anyone over by jumping in some random's face and yell out "check your privilege!"
That phrase "check your privilege" has got to be the dumbest way to expand outreach or awareness
Feels like people go out of their way to find the friingest of the fringe of to paint the "left" with, while ignoring what the totality of the right has become.
yes, because fighting discrimination and bigotry is somehow something I should be at all ashamed of as a minority? LMFAO bunch of obviously privileged and white ass mfers in here. Can smell y'all form a miles away it's so obvious. Go the fuck back to 4chan with that toxicity.Makes me fucking sick reading this bullshit
This is what any entitled group will never ever get. What it feels like punching from the bottom. Trying to control discourse from the top because you feel uncomfortable? nah
what the fuck is this bullshit? you're a fucking asshole and for damn sure fucking privileged. Think you're sooooo smart and above it all, don't ya? point blank, you suck. And I could give zero fucks about image on the internet or in real life when fighting for the rights of equality for every person out there. And I definitely don't need to display my cred out there for your obviously trolling hating ass, that's for damn sure. Anyone Could spot you a mile away, breh.Well I'm not white so...
You are the "social justice image problem" on the internet in a nutshell as far as I am concerned.
How exactly do you fight discrimination and bigotry? I'm curious.
Just to be clear, if this conversation was happening outside of the internet I'd be walking away from you right now. Too hysterical. Too aggressive. If you are not a child you certainly behave like one.