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Sarah Sanders and Family Reportedly Denied Service at Virginia Restaurant

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rjinaz said:
It's a strategy that is proving time and time again that it doesn't work that way, Obama tried it time and time again,
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The thing that raised my eyebrow about this was when the original Affordable Care Act was proposed and Republicans immediately dismissed it as "too-left" which was kinda hilarious given that I recall either the BBC or Guardian (I'll try and look for a source later) stating that to the UK Conservaties the original ACA was too-right...too-right for a British conservative party. So of course, Obama complied and revised it, complying with the Republicans to pass a watered down version (or a WATERED watered down version depending on how you look at it) and cut to today where the GOP have just flat out said that they never agreed with it and they'll get rid of it immediately. Effectively neutralising something that could've greatly benefited people.

Also, one other thing. Why did the Obama administration/Democrats put up with the term "Obamacare"? Wasn't it a term coined by the right and/or Fox News? Instead of correcting the term did they simply adopted it? Terrible idea if you ask me.
 
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SuperNintendoChalmers said:
Also, one other thing. Why did the Obama administration/Democrats put up with the term "Obamacare"? Wasn't it a term coined by the right and/or Fox News? Instead of correcting the term did they simply adopted it? Terrible idea if you ask me.
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They tried for about 5 years with that before trying to reclaim it. The problem was the right wing media and punditry put it into the lexicon much more quickly than the ACA.
 
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SuperNintendoChalmers said:
The thing that raised my eyebrow about this was when the original Affordable Care Act was proposed and Republicans immediately dismissed it as "too-left" which was kinda hilarious given that I recall either the BBC or Guardian (I'll try and look for a source later) stating that to the UK Conservaties the original ACA was too-right...too-right for a British conservative party. So of course, Obama complied and revised it, complying with the Republicans to pass a watered down version (or a WATERED watered down version depending on how you look at it) and cut to today where the GOP have just flat out said that they never agreed with it and they'll get rid of it immediately. Effectively neutralising something that could've greatly benefited people.

Also, one other thing. Why did the Obama administration/Democrats put up with the term "Obamacare"? Wasn't it a term coined by the right and/or Fox News? Instead of correcting the term did they simply adopted it? Terrible idea if you ask me.
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I believe they didn't fight it because in the long run they thought people would like it. That part has actually proven true despite all the hate you hear about "Obamacare". If you're proud to have passed a very hard to get through but important piece of legislation, why be ashamed to have your name on it? ...granted, for a while they did try dubbing it Romneycare since it was his idea originally.
 

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Caging kids, twitter rants, bizarre and unprofessional conduct with fellow world leaders, open corruption and insane nepotism vs please leave the restaurant.

These right wingers are super fragile.
 
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julian said:
I believe they didn't fight it because in the long run they thought people would like it. That part has actually proven true despite all the hate you hear about "Obamacare". If you're proud to have passed a very hard to get through but important piece of legislation, why be ashamed to have your name on it? ...granted, for a while they did try dubbing it Romneycare since it was his idea originally.
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They tried for about 5 years with that before trying to reclaim it. The problem was the right wing media and punditry put it into the lexicon much more quickly than the ACA.
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Thanks for the clarification guys. It just baffled me because a lot of Americans misunderstand that the ACA was Obamacare. Figured that if "Obamacare" was used as a negative term by right-wing media then why was it adopted? Trying to flip the image of the term "Obamacare" would've been a reasonable move. I feel I found it to be a little narcissistic but there's no shame in putting your name on something you're proud of doing.
 
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Boke18 said:
These people have lost the fucking plot.

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id love to see how they would feel when hoses were put on people and people staged sit-ins and had food and etc thrown on them. This whitewashing of movements is insane its as bad as drumming up MLK to try and make black people calm down from serious injustices.
 
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Good, ostracization from society is one of the few things that might be able to change the course of those that serve the GOP.
 
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Boke18 said:
These people have lost the fucking plot.

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The anti war movement?

Where people would riot in the streets and got hosed in response?

Where in the aftermath we had a rise in liberal leaning groups who terrorized with bombs?

Yeah ok.

I wonder what they will do if things got that bad again when we didnt only have conservative leaning terrorists.
 

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I'm glad to see people willing to stand up against tyranny. I've had this opinion and stance since before this board was born. Back then it was mainly the yaaaas crowd talking down resistance. The way towards a better future is forcing all of our leadership to understand they work for the people. I am hopeful through these protests they will understand they live here too, with us.
 
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onadesertedisland said:
I'm glad to see people willing to stand up against tyranny. I've had this opinion and stance since before this board was born. Back then it was mainly the yaaaas crowd talking down resistance. The way towards a better future is forcing all of our leadership to understand they work for the people. I am hopeful through these protests they will understand they live here too, with us.
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Ahh yes, I remember how angry some posters would get seeing "RESISTANCE" banners on avatars at the old place. I put one on my too, and I only planned to keep it on for a little while but ended up keeping it on for months because it seemed to piss off so many moderates. And yet here we are. America has become kidnappers with cages, but don't you dare politely ask Sanders to leave her dinner, don't you dare!

And yet, still no complaints how inappropriately both Sanders and Trump handled this situation, violating ethics. Like none. At all. So weird...
 
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platocplx said:
id love to see how they would feel when hoses were put on people and people staged sit-ins and had food and etc thrown on them. This whitewashing of movements is insane its as bad as drumming up MLK to try and make black people calm down from serious injustices.
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This also highlights another problem. They have no POC talking on these issues. both people being interviewed were white.
 

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A succinct summary of what I feel about this (though which puts it much more mildly than I would):

If you find it more scary and more troubling when a random person disrespects a politician than when a politician disrespects a random person, mull on that.
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BlueTsunami said:
CNN is still trash and Michelle Wolf was right, they're complicit. You can be entertained by watching Don Lemon get angry at some Trump mouthpiece but just realize they keep getting invited on and paid.
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Don Lemon, from what I saw yesterday, seemed like the ONLY one at least trying to justify why people angry enough to support people like SHS being asked to leave and other Trump admin people being heckled. He basically said that after all of Trump's bullshit, and the many years before that where Black and Brown people have been put down, you think people don't have a right to be angry, or naturally pushed to the breaking point? Lemon was the only one talking about that. And while it's important to stay the course (mock the Trump administration!), we also can't let the news deviate from what's going on with the immigrants being held in camps/detention centers. Luckily, for what I saw last night on CNN, they seem to be steering BACK to focusing on the children, parents and footage smuggled out of those centers.

We can't let Trump make the "Focus of the Day" be about "Oh Maxine Waters and Dems are being uncivil to Republicans!!", all the while he's laughing because we all forgot the immigrants and the children that being bussed to ALL OVER our nation in the veil of secrecy. We still gotta scrutinize the FUCK out of Trump and his administration because of this.
 
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julian said:
This is honestly great - and depressing. You should consider a new thread since it really does a good job of encapsulating the issue and directly correlating with the Nazi comparisons.
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My back's acting up so I gotta lie down. But the tweet thread is right there if anyone else wants to make a thread from it.
 
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SolidSnakex said:
Saw the word "civility" trending on Twitter and thought it was there because of conservatives. Turns out that it's actually liberals mocking the idea of civility given what's going on in the country. It's actually good to see that this might be a turning point for the party in terms of standing up for itself.
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There was a recent episode of the excellent podcast, Citations Needed, about the 'Civility Fetish' in the media.

Citations Needed Episode 40: The Civility Fetish
They're not lies, they're "falsehoods"; it's not racism, it's "racially charged comments"; it's not torture, it's "enhanced interrogation." For years, U.S. media has prioritized, above all else, norms and civility.

Mean words or questioning motives are signs of declining civility and the subject of much lament from our media class. However, op-eds explicitly advocating war, invasion, sanctions, sabotage, bombing and occupation or cutting vital programs and lifelines for the poor are just the cost of doing business. What's rhetorically out of bounds - and what isn't - is far more a product of power than any objective sense of "civility" or "decency."

Where did these so-called norms come from, who do they benefit, and why is their maintenance–-even in the face of overt white nationalism––still the highest priority for many liberals and centrists in U.S. media?

We discuss this, and more, with The Huffington Post's Ashley Feinberg.
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White House press secretary Sarah Sanders is expected to receive Secret Service protection as soon as Wednesday, two sources familiar with the decision tell CNN, but they did not specify how long it will last.
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So she is gonna get SS protection cause she was asked to leave a restaurant, that is a special snowflake indeed.
 
rjinaz

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More money wasted by this administration.

On the other hand, might be more reasons to kick her out now if she has to bring in other people with her with guns.
 
ArrogantBastard

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You cannot make that shit up, you are getting protection cause you got asked to leave. You weren't yelled at, you weren't harassed, you were politely asked to leave and now you are gonna get SS protection. Sad!
 
Coyote Starrk

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Fucker Carlson is live right now talking about this. The headline?


"INCIVILITY ON THE LEFT REACHES WORRYING NEW LOW"


He is saying exactly what I expected. He is painting Sanders being asked to leave and the other GOP people being harassed as undeserved and politically driven. I hate this motherfucker so god damn much.



Oh and apparently the difference between the GOP and liberals are "Minor political differences"
 
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Coyote Starrk said:
Fucker Carlson is live right now talking about this. The headline?


"INCIVILITY ON THE LEFT REACHES WORRYING NEW LOW"


He is saying exactly what I expected. He is painting Sanders being asked to leave and the other GOP people being harassed as undeserved and politically driven. I hate this motherfucker so god damn much.
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Means we're doing something right.

It's literally "do the opposite of what Bart says"
 
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Coyote Starrk said:
Fucker Carlson is live right now talking about this. The headline?


"INCIVILITY ON THE LEFT REACHES WORRYING NEW LOW"


He is saying exactly what I expected. He is painting Sanders being asked to leave and the other GOP people being harassed as undeserved and politically driven. I hate this motherfucker so god damn much.



Oh and apparently the difference between the GOP and liberals are "Minor political differences"
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What's that Tuckers?

Oh its Working? Keep it up?

Righto.
 
Enzom21

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Corrik said:
I think the responses in this thread itself should show you that both parties are polarized. I have been dogpiled just because I said I am Republican and because I think the country is too polarized.

I have been equated to a racist, told my thoughts are fucking gross, told to go cry more and so on.

The responses are so great and in such numbers I cannot possibly even respond to them all.

But, my point is that I think both sides are polarized, and I cannot remember a time it has been more polarized. I wish it would be less so. There is no longer discussion on anything anymore, I feel.

Just my thoughts though on it.
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You got so many replies because you suggested that political affiliation should be a protected status, which is beyond idiotic.
Why stop with political affiliation? Make hate group affiliation a protected status as well. You are not born a Republican and you can easily change your party. What a moronic statement yet not too shocking.
It only feels more polarized to you because liberals are no longer letting Republicans get away with being pieces of shit. In the past Republicans would do something shitty and Democrats would never respond and Republicans would just steamroll them.

You and your ilk never complained about how divisive things were during the Obama administration but now that Republicans are being held responsible for the vile shit they do, everything is all of a sudden "so polarized." It's only more polarized to you because now there are actual public consequences to a Republican's actions.

Also, she wasn't asked to leave because she's a piece of shit Republican, she was asked to leave because of who she is and what she has done. Democrats still very much have the moral high ground here.
 
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