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Coyote Starrk

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Oct 30, 2017
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I STRONGLY suggest watching the videos I will be linking below the story to see just how heated the back and forth became. Its absolutely insane. And yet the Republicans wanna lecture the Democrats about civility and decorum????? What utter bullshit.


House Republicans sharply took aim Thursday at Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation in a heated hearing that came at the same time the House passed a resolution rebuking Rosenstein and the Justice Department.

Republicans clashed with Rosenstein over a number of issues, from the text messages of embattled FBI agent Peter Strzok and the start of the Mueller probe to accusations that Rosenstein was withholding information from Congress and threatening congressional aides.
Rosenstein got particularly fiery with Rep. Jim Jordan, the conservative House Freedom Caucus leader who has been one of the most vocal critics of both Rosenstein and Mueller.
"Mr. Rosenstein, we have caught you hiding information from Congress," Jordan charged.
"Your use of this to attack me personally is deeply wrong," Rosenstein responded. "When you find some problem with the production or with questions, it doesn't mean that I'm personally trying to conceal something from you."


The hearing was a public airing of the simmering tensions that have roiled Republicans and Democrats for the past year as they've battled over the investigations into Donald Trump's campaign and Russia and the Republican allegations of FBI misconduct.
Jordan kept barreling into Rosenstein, prompting several protests from Democrats that he was cutting off the deputy attorney general.
"Mr. Rosenstein, did you threaten staffers on the House Intelligence Committee?" Jordan asked, referring to a report earlier this month that staff felt "personally attacked" by Rosenstein.
"Media reports are mistaken," Rosenstein responded.
"Did you threaten to subpoena their calls and emails?" Jordan countered.
"No sir, and there's no way to subpoena phone calls," Rosenstein responded, prompting some laughter from the room.
At the same time that the hearing was being held Thursday, the House passed a resolution 226 to 183 on Thursday demanding that the Justice Department fully comply with subpoenas from the Judiciary and Intelligence committees by July 6.
Conservatives have suggested that the resolution is the last step before taking more drastic measures against Rosenstein, either holding him in contempt or even impeaching him.
Thursday's hearing was actually scheduled to discuss the Justice Department inspector general report into the FBI's handling of the Clinton email investigation, but much of the focus was on the special counsel and the congressional subpoenas.
At the hearing, Rosenstein argued that the House was "mistaken" that the Justice Department wasn't trying to comply with the subpoenas from House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes and House Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte, but that did not stop the party line vote.
Democrats have charged that Republicans are making document requests for sensitive materials about ongoing investigations that cannot be shared in order to give Trump a pretext for firing Rosenstein, who supervises the Mueller probe.
"As part of their coordinated and determined effort to undermine the special counsel's investigation, Republicans are requesting documents they know they cannot have," said Rep. Jerry Nadler of New York, the top Democrat on the Judiciary panel.
FBI Director Chris Wray, who was also testifying at Thursday's hearing, offered a bemused explanation for the threats of contempt.
"Certainly when I was minding my own business in private practice in Atlanta, I didn't think I was going to be spending the first 10 months of my job staring down the barrel of a contempt citation for ... conduct that occurred long before I even thought about being FBI director," he said.
The Mueller investigation loomed large over Thursday's hearing, with Republicans pointing to Strzok's anti-Trump text messages to suggest the Mueller probe was tainted. Strzok, who was interviewed behind closed doors on Wednesday, was an investigator for the Clinton and Russia probes, and he was on Mueller's team before he was dismissed when his texts were discovered.
Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy of South Carolina had sharp words about the Mueller investigation, urging him to "finish it the hell up."
"Russia isn't being hurt by this investigation right now. We are. This country is being hurt by it," Gowdy said. "We need to see the evidence. If you have evidence of wrongdoing by any member of the Trump campaign, present it to the damn grand jury. If you have evidence that this president acted inappropriately, present it to the American people."
Rosenstein responded that he wanted Mueller to finish the investigation in an appropriate fashion.
"I've heard suggestions that we should just close the investigation. I think the best thing we could do is finish it appropriately, and reach a conclusion," Rosenstein said. "And I certainly agree with you, sir, that people should not jump to conclusions without seeing the evidence. I've been the victim of fake news attacks myself so I'm sympathetic."
Wray told the committee that 880,000 documents had been produced, and 100 staffers were working on fulfilling the remaining documents around the clock.
Both Rosenstein and Wray made accommodations to attend Thursday's hearing, which did not get the normal seven-days notice under committee rules.
Rosenstein missed a deputy Cabinet member meeting on Thursday morning, according to a source familiar. If he stays for a full day, he will miss another deputies meeting convened by the national security council where the Justice Department is the lead component on a matter of critical national security concern. And he also had to cancel a trip to Georgia on a law enforcement issue.
Wray also came back early from a West Coast trip meeting with special agents in charge, the source said.
This story has been updated and will continue to update with additional developments throughout the day.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/28/poli...hearing-christopher-wray-documents/index.html








Oh but we should be civil guys! Gotta be sure and maintain decorum guys! When they go low we go high! Gotta show that we are better!



Gotta meet them in the middle! Because the middle is a great place to be right?!?!?!?!?!?
 
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You're right that they have no real ground to preach on decorum and civility but none of them are advocating that he be harassed out in public....yet.
 
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Coyote Starrk

Coyote Starrk

The Fallen
Oct 30, 2017
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BUT WAIT THERE IS MORE. Rosenstein and Wray both get a little snippy and openly embarrass the Republicans.




 

meow

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Oct 27, 2017
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"If you have evidence that this president acted inappropriately, present it to the American people."

BIGGEST JOKE OF THE YEAR. Trump & Co. have been personally presenting the evidence and you shitheads don't give a crap! Absolutely corrupt and disgusting.
 
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Coyote Starrk

Coyote Starrk

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Oct 30, 2017
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BUT WAIT THERE IS EVEN MORE



Can I interest you in some Elected Officials demanding Law Enforcement stop their investigation???





"Whatever you got, finish it the hell up, because this country is being torn apart."

The nerve of Trey Gowdy to say that to Rod Rosenstein after Gowdy relentlessly pushed a 2 1/2 year Benghazi witch hunt that ripped America in half.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Gowdy was on the Daily one episode complaining about the house investigation and how it was terrible for the country.
 
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Coyote Starrk

Coyote Starrk

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Oct 30, 2017
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Or how about elected officials demanding that Rosenstein step down?






Rosenstein's face is priceless.

Asked why he hasn't recused himself from Mueller probe, Rosenstein says, "If it were appropriate for me to recuse, I'd be more than happy to do so and let someone else handle this. But it's my responsibility to do it."
 

AndreGX

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Am I the only one who kept hearing Jerry Lundegaard?

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BWoog

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Oct 27, 2017
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If this hasn't made Wray and Rosenstein seriously consider becoming Democrats, then I don't know what will.
 

Trojita

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Oct 25, 2017
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Freedom Caucus is literal walking garbage. They use the name Freedom as a joke when they are better served by having a picture of The Red Skull represent them.

On October 30, 2017, Vanity Fair published an interview with former Speaker Boehner, who said of the Freedom Caucus: "They can't tell you what they're for. They can tell you everything they're against. They're anarchists. They want total chaos. Tear it all down and start over. That's where their mindset is
 
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Coyote Starrk

Coyote Starrk

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Oct 30, 2017
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Oh man and lets get a good old fashioned lesson on decorum from Trey Gowdy while we are at it! Openly accusing the Deputy Attorney general of being biased and corrupt on live TV








Guys I can almost TASTE the civility here. I'm honestly surprised the Civility doesn't just crawl out of my computer screen and make me a cup of tea and talk to me about how fuckin awesome Jesus is.
 
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Guys I'm pretty sure the representative asking them if they're democrats is himself a democrat and is making a point about supposed bias.
 

Nokterian

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Oh man and lets get a good old fashioned lesson on decorum from Trey Gowdy while we are at it! Openly accusing the Deputy Attorney general of being biased and corrupt on live TV








Guys I can almost TASTE the civility here. I'm honestly surprised the Civility doesn't just crawl out of my computer screen and make me a cup of tea and talk to me about how fuckin awesome Jesus is.


What a vulgar guy this is holy shit.
 
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Coyote Starrk

Coyote Starrk

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Oct 30, 2017
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Guys I wanna apologize btw for the Twitter post spam in my own thread, but I could only link 2 Tweets in the OP and there is obviously SO MUCH worth linking in regards to this fucking mess.
 

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Oh man and lets get a good old fashioned lesson on decorum from Trey Gowdy while we are at it! Openly accusing the Deputy Attorney general of being biased and corrupt on live TV








Guys I can almost TASTE the civility here. I'm honestly surprised the Civility doesn't just crawl out of my computer screen and make me a cup of tea and talk to me about how fuckin awesome Jesus is.


Gowdy is fucking garbage.

Put up or shut up, show the receipts, dipshit. Prove bias (as if you can). Just spouting nonsense as usual. Like most GOP.
 

LGHT_TRSN

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Oct 25, 2017
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The GOP are actively trying to conceal crimes because they know it leads back to their donors and themselves. They are a fucking blight on this country and the world and deserve to suffer the deepest depths of hell for all eternity. Fuck every single one of them.
 

AegonSnake

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Oh man and lets get a good old fashioned lesson on decorum from Trey Gowdy while we are at it! Openly accusing the Deputy Attorney general of being biased and corrupt on live TV








Guys I can almost TASTE the civility here. I'm honestly surprised the Civility doesn't just crawl out of my computer screen and make me a cup of tea and talk to me about how fuckin awesome Jesus is.

He investigated Benghazi and Hillary for almost five years and found nothing.

Mueller is a year into his investigation and has indicted 20 people including 13 Russians. 7 of those 20 people have pleaded guilty. and he has the balls to say they havent found a damn thing.
 

BWoog

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Oct 27, 2017
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"Bob Mueller hasn't found a single thing!....you know except for nearly 30 indictments."
 

Netherscourge

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Oct 25, 2017
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Jesus Christ - Rosenstein is murdering these motherfuckers.

And of course Trey Gowdy looks at Rosenstein and treats him like a Clinton wearing a pantsuit.
 

Squarehard

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Oct 27, 2017
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Gowdy is fucking garbage.

Put up or shut up, show the receipts, dipshit. Prove bias (as if you can). Just spouting nonsense as usual. Like most GOP.
Irony is always delicious.

Let's not forget this headline awhile back, "Trey Gowdy defends two-year Benghazi probe that was riddled with partisan conflict"
 

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This is going to play well in the far right media circles. Appearing justifiability angry goes a long way in the appearance of credibility and they know it. Trump is watching and loving the cover this gives him to eliminate more "problem" members of the DOJ. Far right media and national politics is a feedback loop now, trading influence and favors.
 

Ac30

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Oct 30, 2017
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The U.S. House of Reps sure seems to be stocked with a bunch of immature fuckwits, Jesus. Meadows, Gaetz, Jordan...

Also I'm assuming Jordan meant phone call records but then he doubled down lmao
 

FlipSider

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we really need a separate politics forum.
 

UberTag

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Oct 25, 2017
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This is going to play well in the far right media circles. Appearing justifiability angry goes a long way in the appearance of credibility and they know it. Trump is watching and loving the cover this gives him to eliminate more "problem" members of the DOJ. Far right media and national politics is a feedback loop now, trading influence and favors.
Footage of this hearing will be plastered all over Fox News tonight showing how the FBI and Deputy AG continue to go to bat for Hillary and refuse to investigate her and her crimes thus reinforcing the belief that the FBI is a corrupt "deep state" stronghold that has no credibility and is completely partisan in their efforts to undermine their beloved abortion-killing God, President Puppet.
 

xenocide

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Oct 25, 2017
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The U.S. House of Reps sure seems to be stocked with a bunch of immature fuckwits, Jesus. Meadows, Gaetz, Jordan...

Matt Gaetz is in the Top 5 Worst Members of Congress. He crowdsourced a resolution he planned to introduce to /r/The_Donald, and invited a Neo-Nazi to the State of the Union. He also had his daddy get him out of a DUI in Florida, because why not.
 

Jmille99

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Oct 25, 2017
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I dont know anything about Rosenstein admittedly, but his demeanor and the way he is wrecking these fools is spectacular.
 

Jpop

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Oct 27, 2017
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You're right that they have no real ground to preach on decorum and civility but none of them are advocating that he be harassed out in public....yet.

Tell me how civil Republicans are in public.

I guess in general supporting oppression of minorities and racial discrimination in public is not harassment?

Throwing children in internment camps is not harrasement?

Having a President paint minorities as sub human on a public platform is not harrasement?

I guess it's only not harrasement when you have no moral values to begin with.

Tell me about your greviances on economic anxiety.