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JeTmAn

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Oct 25, 2017
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Perhaps it just wasn't for critics

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I hope you're consistent in these feelings when it comes to bad films by directors you do like.

I love JA Bayona, but consider most of the flaws in Fallen Kingdom due to the script. As a director he's ultimately responsible, but I don't look at FK and say "Damn, he's really gotten worse since A Monster Calls"
there's no directors i like so no worries there.
 

MacReady13

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Oct 27, 2017
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He wrote Fallen Kingdom so he was never really gone. His directing isn't amazing but the big problem of these movies isn't the directing, it's the script.



Because her death was treated and directed as if a huge villian would meet his deserved end, clearly to be cheered. There was a pretty big discussion about it back when the film released because no one really understood what the fuck was up with that death scene, because that woman had basically nothing to do with anything and didn't at all deserve a death scene like that. Add to that his comments about her earning her death because she was a "bridezilla" and the general mysoginist tone of the movie (example: Every single interaction between Chris Pratt and high-heels-lady) and there you go.

What makes that mysoginistic?
 

saenima

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Oct 25, 2017
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Why are people bringing Rian Johnson to a Trevorrow thread? Brick is phenomenal, Looper is pretty fucking good and he directed three of the best episodes of Breaking Bad, including Ozymandias. Trevorrow is a hack through and through, with some really shitty views to boot.

Star Wars fans smh


Sorry for dp.
 

Keldroc

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Oct 27, 2017
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I also hate when people compare her death to Eddie's in The Lost World. Eddie was clearly a tragic death. He did what he did knowing there was a good chance of dying, and he gave his life to save others. The woman in JW just . . . kinda gets picked out of a crowd, and no one sees or recognizes what happens besides the audience, who are, I guess, supposed to cheer.

It's pretty awful. The Villain doesn't even get a comperable death.

Eddie's death is also the direct fault of the "heroes," who ignore common sense and the girl's warnings about the baby Rex drawing the parents to them, after parking their anti-multiton predator vehicles on the edge of a fucking cliff. Malcolm, Sarah, and Vince Vaughn act like complete idiots (standard procedure in TLW for literally everyone), and as a result Eddie, a man who did nothing wrong or even questionable the whole film, is messily devoured while screaming in terror. And this is then never mentioned or addressed ever again throughout the movie by anyone. The woman's death in JW is a far more repulsive creative choice, but Eddie's death is far worse writing.

What makes that mysoginistic?

What makes reserving the most spectacular and gruesome death in the whole movie for a woman whose only "crime" in the film is to use her phone a lot for planning her upcoming wedding while babysitting the boss' kids? This is a question you need answered?

Why are people bringing Rian Johnson to a Trevorrow thread? Brick is phenomenal, Looper is pretty fucking good and he directed three of the best episodes of Breaking Bad, including Ozymandias. Trevorrow is a hack through and through, with some really shitty views to boot.

Star Wars fans smh

This is the new normal forever now. Rian Johnson will eternally be brought up alongside complete hacks like Trevorrow, despite the fact that Johnson has never made a film that was anything other than good to great (Brick alone is better than Trevorrow's entire filmography combined), because Star Wars fans can't handle their shit. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic.
 

Nappuccino

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Oct 25, 2017
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Chronicle was better than this dudes whole career tbh

Fantastic Four was absolute basura but we'll see how he fares with that Al Capone movie
I had no idea Josh Trank was allowed to keep going.

I really liked Chronicle, so I had a lot of hope for Fant4stic. I still think the movie could have been great if Trank didn't freak out / was allowed to make the movie he intended to make. It might not have been a true F4 movie, but I think it would have been interesting and worth seeing.
 

Nimurai

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Oct 28, 2017
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To absolutely no degree.

People who dislike TLJ: please stop making things up to fit your argument.
I am talking about post TLJ. I thought it was okay, but give him the next trilogy fine? No.

Suddenly there is no way to think it was a misfire without getting lumped in with all the other idiocy surrounding it. I even liked Rose.
 

Madison

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Oct 27, 2017
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Why are people bringing Rian Johnson to a Trevorrow thread? Brick is phenomenal, Looper is pretty fucking good and he directed three of the best episodes of Breaking Bad, including Ozymandias. Trevorrow is a hack through and through, with some really shitty views to boot.

Star Wars fans smh


Sorry for dp.
Beats me. Apparently not liking a movie makes Rian Johnson a mediocre director, even though he has made a lot of acclaimed media. I bet most of the people that call him a hack havent watched anything else that hes made.
 

Orb

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Oct 27, 2017
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I haven't seen the movie but have heard a couple different movie podcasts recap the plot and it sounds fucking crazy.
 

Xe4

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Oct 25, 2017
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Man people freaking hate Trevvorow huh. Not entirely sure what he's done to earn that hate other than make some mediocre movies and a really dumb comment.
 
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Man people freaking hate Trevvorow huh. Not entirely sure what he's done to earn that hate other than make some mediocre movies and a really dumb comment.

He directed a notably terrible misguided movie, wrote two awful screenplays for Jurassic Park movies, has said numerous dumb ignorant things about his movies and diversity in Hollywood, and is so clearly up his own ass that he writes off any and all criticisms as misunderstandings of his stupid, hacky films. And he got all this success because he directed one pretty ok indie movie and Spielberg for whatever reason likes him.

As someone said above, the fact that he at one point was going to write and direct a numbered Star Wars movie is bananas.
 

Deleted member 31817

Nov 7, 2017
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It's really hilarious how mediocre white male directors keep getting gigantic gigs.

Isn't Bigelow the only female director to win an Oscar and isn't the gender makeup of Hollywood directors only like 12% female or less

Lol
 

takriel

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Oct 25, 2017
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Book of Henry was so fucking pretentious I couldn't believe it.
 

Messofanego

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Oct 25, 2017
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Why are people bringing Rian Johnson to a Trevorrow thread? Brick is phenomenal, Looper is pretty fucking good and he directed three of the best episodes of Breaking Bad, including Ozymandias. Trevorrow is a hack through and through, with some really shitty views to boot.

Star Wars fans smh


Sorry for dp.
The Last Jedi really made people lose their goddamn minds lol
 

Einchy

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Oct 25, 2017
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I am talking about post TLJ. I thought it was okay, but give him the next trilogy fine? No.

Suddenly there is no way to think it was a misfire without getting lumped in with all the other idiocy surrounding it. I even liked Rose.
Your post in the context of this thread makes no sense.

KK loved working with RJ and his producer and the shooting of TLJ went completely smooth, why wouldn't she want to work with him again? So, no, he didn't' 'fail upwards' because you thought his movie was okay.
 

MDS

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Jun 26, 2018
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Why are people bringing Rian Johnson to a Trevorrow thread? Brick is phenomenal, Looper is pretty fucking good and he directed three of the best episodes of Breaking Bad, including Ozymandias. Trevorrow is a hack through and through, with some really shitty views to boot.

Star Wars fans smh

Please don't gaslight me by saying Looper was "good".
 

J_Viper

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Oct 25, 2017
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Trevorrow hasn't produced anything as terrible as TLJ's opening prank call or Canto Bight

I haven't seen JW2 yet though
 

Deleted member 42055

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Apr 12, 2018
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For as much valid shit as Snyder gets about his filmmaking chooses , he's never come across as an insufferable a person as CT has. I'd have a beer with Snyder, whereas I'd be shaking my head at the bar overhearing the stuff coming out of CT's mouth
 

Cuburger

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Oct 28, 2017
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I haven't seen Book of Henry, but I did see the Double Toasted spoiler/review of it and that was more than enough for me to know that this man is full of shit.
I was curious to see what this film was even about so I watched the Double Toasted review and I think it may be better than actually watching the movie. lol
 

DorkLord54

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Oct 27, 2017
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How did this become another thread for nerds to complain about TLJ?
Because it's tangentially related to SW since Trevorrow was supposed to direct IX before thankfully getting the boot, so people want to put RJ in the same category of upward-failing as Trevorrow. This is despite the fact that, regardless of opinion of TLJ, dude has two good movies and one of the best episodes of television under his belt.
 

Bor Gullet

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Oct 27, 2017
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For as much valid shit as Snyder gets about his filmmaking chooses , he's never come across as an insufferable a person as CT has. I'd have a beer with Snyder, whereas I'd be shaking my head at the bar overhearing the stuff coming out of CT's mouth

Everyone says that about [Christopher Nolan's] Batman Begins. "Batman's dark." I'm like, okay, "No, Batman's cool." He gets to go to a Tibetan monastery and be trained by ninjas. Okay? I want to do that. But he doesn't, like, get raped in prison. That could happen in my movie. If you want to talk about dark, that's how that would go.

About Jimmy Olsen's appearance in BvS.

We just did it as this little aside because we had been tracking where we thought the movies were gonna go, and we don't have room for Jimmy Olsen in our big pantheon of characters, but we can have fun with him, right?
 

J_Viper

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Everyone says that about [Christopher Nolan's] Batman Begins. "Batman's dark." I'm like, okay, "No, Batman's cool." He gets to go to a Tibetan monastery and be trained by ninjas. Okay? I want to do that. But he doesn't, like, get raped in prison. That could happen in my movie. If you want to talk about dark, that's how that would go.

About Jimmy Olsen's appearance in BvS.

We just did it as this little aside because we had been tracking where we thought the movies were gonna go, and we don't have room for Jimmy Olsen in our big pantheon of characters, but we can have fun with him, right?
This doesn't at all disprove the, by all accounts, accurate assumption that Zack Snyder is a gentleman
I am genuinely saddened that we've come to a point on internet TLJ discourse where idk if this is a real opinion or /s.
Is it really such a controversial opinion to think the humor in TLJ was embarrassing?
 

Deleted member 42055

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Everyone says that about [Christopher Nolan's] Batman Begins. "Batman's dark." I'm like, okay, "No, Batman's cool." He gets to go to a Tibetan monastery and be trained by ninjas. Okay? I want to do that. But he doesn't, like, get raped in prison. That could happen in my movie. If you want to talk about dark, that's how that would go.

About Jimmy Olsen's appearance in BvS.

We just did it as this little aside because we had been tracking where we thought the movies were gonna go, and we don't have room for Jimmy Olsen in our big pantheon of characters, but we can have fun with him, right?

Oh trust me man I HATE HATE everything he choose to do with those films. I just don't read him as being as much of an up his own ass type of a person outside of filmmaking like CT is.
 

mattiewheels

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I've only seen half of Safety Not Guaranteed, but I'm always fascinatined how someone goes from that being their first film to directing a new Jurassic Park. Is there something to that movie that makes someone cut in line so drastically?
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Your post in the context of this thread makes no sense.

KK loved working with RJ and his producer and the shooting of TLJ went completely smooth, why wouldn't she want to work with him again? So, no, he didn't' 'fail upwards' because you thought his movie was okay.
Not to mention TLJ was a commercial and critical success. In no ways was it failure.
 
I've only seen half of Safety Not Guaranteed, but I'm always fascinatined how someone goes from that being their first film to directing a new Jurassic Park. Is there something to that movie that makes someone cut in line so drastically?
The film had a lot fans in some of the highest positions in Hollywood. Spielberg was mentioned already, but Brad Bird also championed the film and both Frank Marshall and (initially) Kathleen Kennedy were on board after watching it themselves.

What they saw in it is tough to say, as it's a better than average indie comedy with winning performances from both Aubrey Plaza and Mark Duplass, almost in spite of the setup being potentially disastrous with its origins on an internet meme that dates itself back the Triassic era, but it clearly had something to foster such a strong response from that bunch to, as you described it, have Trevorrow "cut in line."
 
Oct 25, 2017
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How good is Safety Not Guaranteed? I've never seen it nor heard of it until I learned Trevorrow was gonna direct Jurassic World. Just found it odd this guy came out of nowhere to make JW and almost directed Episode IX.
It was cute. I'm not gonna use the O word, but ... eh .... kind of. It was a nice indie flick. I don't see how you go from that to Jurassic World.

Marc Webb going from 500 Days of Summer to The Amazing Spider-Man makes more sense, and that transition didn't make any sense.
 

Nimurai

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Oct 28, 2017
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How did this become another thread for nerds to complain about TLJ?
It isn't. I made one offhand mention of it and it activated some huge defense force. So 20 posts of that and complaints about sw nerds and here we are.

I honestly don't care or even know much about that whole debacle, but i guess this is the place where anything tangentially related to a viewpoint gets to represent some whole nerdcrusade. Christ.