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Todd Howard blames Sony for no cross play in Fallout 76 (No plans to add currently - Post #950)
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There is already signs they are beginning to crack and will be arm bent into it.
They are much more vulnerable than some try to portray them and they know it.
"Sony is a business!"
"Wow another thread/post like this!?"
"Stop complaining your ENTITLED!"
"Microsoft started it!"
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"Let's act like it's not an issue. Maybe contact a journalist for an article to say how people don't care about cross-play is."
I can't think of the appropriate gif to respond so all I can say is lmao
I wonder if people will now demand PC + XBOX crossplay for this game when it comes out.
I hope they do.
Because if they dont it will be clear that the issue and all this hivemind has nothing to do with crossplay.
So its your time my fellows crossplay supporters instead of whining about Sony policies go for Bethesda.
PC + XBOX crossplay for Fallout 76 is in Bethesda and MS hands its time for you guys show that you really care about crossplay .
Im waiting for a 100 pages thread with people demanding Bethesda and MS position in this situation.
I hope they do.
Because if they dont it will be clear that the issue and all this hivemind has nothing to do with crossplay.
So its your time my fellows crossplay supporters instead of whining about Sony policies go for Bethesda.
PC + XBOX crossplay for Fallout 76 is in Bethesda and MS hands its time for you guys show that you really care about crossplay .
Im waiting for a 100 pages thread with people demanding Bethesda and MS position in this situation.
I don't see why things should go on as status quo. Developers need to start sending a message and that message should be we want cross play, if you do not want to be part of the overall cross play WE want to provide then you can just play with your own players. That would end the comments of nobody cares about cross play, Sony doesn't need Xbox One or Switch players and so on. There is no need to continue giving in and splitting the pc into two camps because of Sony.
Isn't everyone in this thread whinning? Those for it are just as bad...
I am really confused by some of the Sony console warriors or fanboys that seem to care more about their favored company "winning" on the business side than what is best for gamers. Cross play simply provides a way for friends and family to play some of their favorite games together even if they invested in a different piece of plastic, which should be seen as a good thing by all gamers. This very issue has caused my boys on Xbox to not be able to play with their cousin on PS4 with some games.
Thread whining is considered 'whining about the existence of the thread', rather than as a reaction to the contents. The former is frowned upon.
I am seeing this sentiment pop up in a lot of cross-play threads lately. Why don't you name or challenge these so called apologists rather than throwing blanket statements?
PlayStation also has the worst version of Fallout 4 because of Sonys stance on mods
Pretty sure Sony is the only platform holder blocking an all consoles cross-play.
I hope they do, market leader or not. It's my dream to stop having to choose between which platform to get something on. No more divided friends haha
Yeah thats right, there is shades of crossplay, figure as a developer he would be more specific.
Except he is not wrong and it was even acknowledged by mods in previous threads. But keep on truckin'.
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they the only console with such a huge installbase and its in their good right to not share it with the 2 loosers.
Developers of these online service games have pretty valid reasons for desiring cross-play and cross-progression (ideally, their games are platform-agnostic services on which their players can freely choose to play with one another and bring their progress and investments to wherever they choose to play), before we even talk about what the gamers want.
I really, really don't understand those of you who are only willing to imagine Sony's perspective on this matter. Some are even willing to note that these developers definitely are not 'victims' of Sony's cross-play policies (because of the connotations that come with that word), despite them not being able to achieve a vision for their games that is otherwise well within their grasp, because those developers make money regardless... but Sony's bottom line is also somehow a concern to you.
I really, really don't understand those of you who are only willing to imagine Sony's perspective on this matter. Some are even willing to note that these developers definitely are not 'victims' of Sony's cross-play policies (because of the connotations that come with that word), despite them not being able to achieve a vision for their games that is otherwise well within their grasp, because those developers make money regardless... but Sony's bottom line is also somehow a concern to you.
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One of the biggest console developers straight up calls Sony out and you still have people that don't know anything defending Sony holy shit.
Exactly nothing. You have literally no idea how difficult it would be for them to implement such a system. This is also the fallout teams first foray into multiplayer period so this entire thing is going to be a big learning experience as it is. I can only imagine that having to address separate ecosystems in their own bubbles and divide server ecosystems for them would be even more of a pain.
opp, someone got a different opinion than you, what a world we live in huh?
I'm not sure you want to be holding onto ill-informed "opinions" but you do you.
Neither do you.
Bethesda isn't a start-up company.
Yes, this would be a much better response than just saying "Sony did it, go after them."
Sony is the reason why they'd have to code it twice, instead of having just one player pool. Double the groups to manage, double the chance of problems, double the support. That's why the cross benefit analysis doesn't work.
Sure.
But that does not prevent them to say "Sorry, it's not possible now, but OK it's good idea, it will be hard but let's work together on it" instead of simply closing the door and say "No, go away"
And neither do you.
So do I listen to a forum member or the lead of the game itself?
I wonder...
I agree, but to be fair, I'm bitter towards Sony right now.
A game that is a persistent world that receives the same updates could be. So why give concessions to your overall goal of having everyone play in the same universe because one party doesn't want to? Would it not be easier for a developer to have everyone lumped together anyways?
And I have the right to criticize them for that as a consumer and a PS4 console owner and because i'm not a Sony employee.
"Loosers" lmao. Are you serious or blatantly trolling?
Minecraft Xbox One has a higher install base than PS4 by itself and now with the Better Together update it is combined with Switch, PC, Andriod and iOS. Makes the PS4 userbase look like a spec of sand. What do you say to that?
Nah, it was addressed accordingly. You singled him out when it seems to be a common consensus across multiple threads. Now why did you do that?
Like it's easy to see why a developer might be apprehensive to let controller users play with mouse & keyboard users in a first-person shooter. Or the fact that handling different cross-play ecosystems (PS4/PC and XB/PC) in a server-based MMO would put strain on their matchmaking. One XB player in the server means only XB and PC players could play in that server and vice versa.
true but in the end all you can do is vote with your wallet and not buy a ps5 if you care about cross play more than anything else the platform offers. just talking about it for 150 pages like in that one other thread wont change shit.
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