Absolutely yes, I'll be damned if it makes you uncomfortable.
The President who throws children in internment camps. The base that espouses his hatred and bigotry. Not being labeled as a racist.
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Meanwhile in Canada: Restaurant Manager Fired For Refusing Trump Supporter
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Absolutely yes, I'll be damned if it makes you uncomfortable.
The President who throws children in internment camps. The base that espouses his hatred and bigotry. Not being labeled as a racist.
Cool so he's just supremely ignorant to the bigotry he's supporting.
Same outcome, don't care. If he's gonna double down on wearing shitty stuff in public then he should do the bare.minimum 30 seconds of research or reap the consequences. But let's be honest, he knows what Trump's platform is otherwise he wouldn't have bought a hat.
How much more damage must be done before their ignorance is inexcusable? How many children imprisoned, how many dead? You're sitting on a comfortable ledge overlooking history where you can safely say the confederate flag and swasktika are hate symbols after the damage has been done.
Ones full of shit and the other is a load of shit.
And you know it.
Of course I am! We all are! These things are not instantaneous, the passage of time is what gives symbols their weight, and meaning.
Have you ever visited right leaning message boards? Some of the Steelers boards I visit are filled with posters who aren't afraid to talk politics (especially after Trump turned NFL players protests into "disrespecting the flag" rhetoric).. The opinions they espouse over subjects you and I definitively see as racist and bigoted are casually explained away as necessary evils and/or whatabouted with past presidents. These guys are extreme cases and I would never argue that they are ignorant to the details of their arguments, but again I say, 62 million people voted for Trump. I don't think it's a stretch to say that there are a number of people who are flat ignorant to the severity or unprecedented nature of many of Trump's actions. The MAGA hat may one day be immediately seen as a hate symbol, but I don't feel that has happened yet, and it likely WON'T happen for a while yet (At very least, as long as Trump in in office - he's a sitting President, no way the MAGA hat will be acknowledged universally as a hate symbol while its purveyor is still in office).
So you've got nothing. Gotcha.
"Viewing" it as a hate symbol is not the same as it actually "being" a hate symbol. People denying you service, demanding you to take it off, and explaining why it represents hate is what gradually transforms a hate symbol into being publicly acknowledged as taboo. Which is what this manager was doing by asking him to leave.
Hahaha yeah that is how it read to me
Edit: I won't be close to the US for a long time but if I catch a tourist with a MAGA hat there will be taunts at the very least. That hat represents too much hate towards me as a person.
Well yes, if you vote for someone that publically wants innocent black men executed, I'd say it's pretty fair to assess you as suspect if you're wearing his red klan hat.
I'm fairly certain that most people here would be fairly clueless about the correlation to do that, despite the fact I believe those same people would be behind the manager's side.
Enjoy being jobless , mixing work and politics at best that family just went to eat somewhere else but the manager can't pay rent now .. only he comes out looking like a loser
Yet he retained his dignity and actually pushed back. Can't say that about everyone, apparently! Our poison should not leak beyond our country.
Fuck this place. I won't ever be supporting this company for backing up a bigot.
Politics affect our lives and absolutely fucking matter. They aren't like expressing different opinions on a movie. Taking a stand against bigotry is what any decent human being should do. I did it multiple times working retail as did my coworkers and we all were backed up.
Yeah what a loser standing up against bigotry!
Politics affect our lives and absolutely fucking matter. They aren't like expressing different opinions on a movie. Taking a stand against bigotry is what any decent human being should do. I did it multiple times working retail as did my coworkers and we all were backed up.
A person shouldn't be served because they are wearing a hat belonging to the campaign of the sitting President of the United States that almost 60 million people voted for? I'm not saying he should've gotten fired for doing it but it's shitty for business and I'm sure Canada's conservatives will be avoiding that establishment like the plague.
Good luck lol
Good luck lol
It said the restauarant asked him to take his hat off and only kicked him out when he refused. If he's just some guy that had the hat on for some reason but didn't want people to think he was a racist, he could have taken it off. But he didn't.
They voted for a man whose racism was never in question and was the main driving force of his campainging. Their actions mean this administration will leave us with a lifetime of racist policies and conservative judges in the supreme court to protect those policies and furthering the country's racial discrimination. All of them are, unequivocally, racists. You don't get to be apart of the driving force of these problems and then act as though you're not guilty.
Why are you acting as if ignorance alleviates the root behavior? Racism is racism regardless of if they know it. I would even imagine most racists don't think of themselves as racist but as people who speak the "uncomfortable truth" or believe "stereotypes exist for a reason". There is no reason to excuse them for being ignorant, the underlying behavior is the same regardless.
You have a questionable post history defending MAGA rights.
Funny how we now have republicans throwing children in internment camps.
You have a questionable history supporting the rights of racist, bigots.
Trumps not such a bad President I guess, we've done much worse. /s
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Yeah you remember the atomic bomb or Slavery .. I think America has done much worse then put trump in the White house.
Questionalble .. only because you don't like it but it's me , deal with it.
Questionable because you seem to have a tendency of defending the rights of bigots, racists and Nazi sympathizers. I guess we are all just fear mongering liberals. Your words.
Funny how you bring up Slavery when Trumps administration is literally throwing minority children in internment camps.
I'd have the exact same response if they threw out a dem supporter. It's it's questionable then feel free to ask me a question about it I'll happily engage , but I think you've already picked out the posts that I would have said in reply.
So just got be civil and tolerate the intolerance then?
Manager has a right to not serve someone be does not want to , his company has a right to fire him both did what they where intended on doing.
A hat with a white supremacy slogan. That ain't political fair game.
Sorry I'm going to take the opposite stand on this I don't condone denying service to anyone just because of political affiliations that sets up a bad precedence IMO.
Abduction and torture are not merely political beliefs. Read the thread and reply to posts.
Bad precedence for what?
Racial bias against minorities Bias against women, LGBTQ+? That already happens. I don't see how refusing service to a hateful bigot will improve any of those things.
I'd rather take a stand against people that feel children need to be thrown into cages.
It seems some people are too comfortable with being civil and everyone getting along.
MAGA = recementing white supremacy and racism in America's institutional frameworks. It's not just "political affiliations."
I'm going to leave this here.
That hat has the slogan that was literally used during two presidential campaigns (Reagan, the orange lump).
Half of this thread and the owner of the restaurant have gotten their lunch money taken in school didn't ya?
Of course democracy will die when a bunch of pussies are mostly "defending" it.
Of course democracy will die when a bunch of pussies are mostly "defending" it.
No one should serve any prick wearing a MAGA hat. It's one thing to assume that anyone who voted for Trump is a shitbag. It's entirely another to make that assumption about people still actively supporting him. Fuck 'em, and fuck the people defending them.
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Aren't they implying that tolerating intolerance is bullshit? Very confused about your statement.
Fuck their feelings and voting preferences.
They know what MAGA stands for and if it doesn't we teach them by tossing them out.
They should consider themselves lucky we don't separate them from any kids they may have.