But sometimes a game can be too much for a system.
Your words. Like you're bitter that it's on switch.
Why?
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Digital Foundry: Wolfenstein II on Switch
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Your words. Like you're bitter that it's on switch.
Why?
That is a good point. Using an adaptive resolution for games like this will be beneficial when a successor or higher portable/dock mode is available.
I think 3d games on the 3ds look like dogshit. So I think I'm being entirely consistent.
You are hand picking the absolute worst situations that may not even happen that often and declaring it the norm.
360p and uneven framerates in very select circumstances which, again, is what the video showed.
I really don't think the comparison to DOOM was meant to be a direct one. Both the Doom SNES port and the Wolfenstein Switch port are technical marvels. However, whilst the latter is a mostly-locked 30fps with occasional drops to low resolutions, the former barely crept into the 20fps range and had graphics so pixelated that it was nigh-on impossible to tell which enemy was which at a distance.
The comparison was made because a good port and the playability of that port are mutually exclusive factors. To say otherwise would be to argue that ports like Arkham Knight and Dark Souls on PC, which ran 'fine' compared to its console counterparts, were good ports because of that fact. A port's quality is determined by how well it uses the console/PC's power, and in that regard Wolfenstein 2 on Switch is a very good por.t
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And the video doesn't support your point, so why are you still using it as irrefutable evidence of your claims?
Doom SNES was the definition of Unplayable. It barely reached 12 fps and ram at the lowest possible resolution while it also had the full geometry. It was a technical achievement, but also too much for the system
The New Colossus on Switch runs at stable 30 fps (with some hiccups) and reaches 360p in the most heated battles neat the end of the game.
While both are comparable since both are impressive achievements for the machines they are running on, TNC doesn't seem to be unplayable in the slightest.
Seriously, stop it already, you're just going in circles for the sake of it
I loved the 3DS, but I hated the jaggies, which plagued nearly all Nintendo games when it didn't have to be this way. Resident Evil Mercenaries/Revelations and Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate looked fantastic. The resolution wasn't the problem, it was a complete disregard for AA from the overwhelming majority of developers.
I'm completely fine with a low resolution when games don't look like a pixelated mess.
Couldn't that just be down to art-style? Doom has a very distinct art-style whereas many of Wolfenstein 2's levels are set in relatively 'generic' locales such as destroyed cities and military bases. Doom, especially in its hell-based levels, could be running at 144p and I'd likely be able to recognise that it was Doom.
I'm playing Zelda mostly portable and I sometimes think that it's a little bit blurry, but seeing how low this game drops makes my stomach turn around....I guess this port is mostly for people who have no other option to play Wolfenstein on....
... Or want to play it portably. This is your only option for portable wolf
Doom has a different color palette compared to other recent game in the genre so it is more recognisable at a first glance.
Yeah, and the Nazi references make it easier to mistake it for a WWII CoD-style shooter at a glance.
This is a difficult port to judge. On one hand, it gets does a great job imitating all the detail of Wolf II, but the aggressive blur makes it so difficult to appreaciate that I'm sure even they had to have questioned whether they were making the right choice for playability.
There were better ports out there than the one for DOOM, imo. Both compared to the other consoles and to the performance of the PC version. DOOM works just fine, but I have better ports installed on my Switch that have more similar performance to the other versions. Fortnite looks native 720p after the latest patch, for instance.
To be honest, I was always expecting games like this to come out on the Switch. In fact, I was calling for DOOM in the other place before it was announced, and when it was it was like "oh, nice". Anyone who's followed the Tegra lineup should not have been surprised at any point, imo. The Tegra X1 is a powerful SoC. It was literally marketed as a chip that could deliver current generation experiences from day one.
But DOOM isn't the most impressive port on Switch. Neither was Rocket League before the performance patch, which almost doubled the resolution of the game in many instances while bringing back visual effects and improving the performance. So for all we know, DOOM could be substantially better.
Now, obviously Wolfenstein is a better port than DOOM is.
I mean if your argument is based on things I never said, okay.
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damn you made a ass out of him.
Am I dumb or what the hell are you implying here? Sorry if I misunderstood you but you make tens of different claims, never explain any and continue to reply only to those that suit you.
GPD Win 2 does it much better though you have to spend twice the price of the Switch.
So this a a better port than Doom? ( which. I played on both Xbox one X and Switch and had fun with both)
Not many people own a GDP Win 2 in comparison to those who own a Switch
What do you think is the most impressive port? I definitely don't feel it's Fortnite but what else?
In terms of consistent frame rate it's certainly a step up from DOOM
Do you mean in portable? Something must be wrong with your Switch. Mine never gets uncomfortably warm no matter what I play. Just got done playing Wolfenstein for over 2 hours and no issue.
I walk back a little bit about what I said earlier. The game gets better visually as it goes on. I think the biggest issue for me was from playing it at 1440 max settings on my PC at 60 fps, it was just a bit jarring at first. There's a few areas that hover in that uncanny valley territory, but others hold up surprisingly well. I'm also very satisfied with gyro aiming in this game, I did a lot better this go around on Switch on the 2nd hardest difficult than I did on my PC with my steam controller.
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The only people whose opinions should count are the folks who are considering whether or not to buy it. Unfortunately some other folks simply feel threatened any time the Switch gets a whiff of being a "real console" with "real games."
I dont really understand why people seem so angry this game is on the switch. If it doesn't meet your technical standards then dont buy it. It's an interesting technical piece to discuss anyway.
I think it's pretty awesome to see games like this on the go and hopefully Nintendo releases a switch pro that allows games to be played at native 720
I think it's pretty awesome to see games like this on the go and hopefully Nintendo releases a switch pro that allows games to be played at native 720
Please do not feed the troll.
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This guy has a history of posting stuff like this:
Just use the ignore list.
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Yes, but that game was designed to be cross-gen, so PS3 / 360 was the base. This game was designed for PS4 / Xbox One as a base, then downported to Switch. It's different.
While its not more impressive than Wolf, I think Crash is a pretty impressive port. Runs great in handheld and docked mode while only missing SSR. Docked looks really sharp and handheld looks good enough, but not native. Will you guys take a look at Crash too? It seems like it maintains the same lighting, textures and geometry from the other console versions.
Likely is and about people that suddenly pop up on twitter who never had any intention of buying certain games but want to use DF work to talk shit. It happens every single time DF releases a video and it is indeed not fair to the or the developers. It seems to happen a lot with games on Nintendo systems. You have these people come out of the dark to bash 1st party games from Nintendo as well.
Skyrim ran on Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 though. It's impressive to have such a sprawling world on a handheld but Wolfenstein was built from the ground up for PS4 and Xbox One. I find it very impressive that so many graphical effects made the transition too.
What? Skyrim is a port of a game that ran on weaker machines lol
I'm not sure, but it was a decent framerate, never had huge dips. I looked like a 2009 game at times and had plenty of bugs though.
