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Fou-Lu

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,339
Duncan wrote a sequel series "A handful of men". All I remember of it is the final twist, but I thought that final twist was so good I couldn't help but say you should find them. First book is the cutting edge.

And since I posted a second time in the thread I'm just going to hype up David Hair's Moontide Quartet again. It's a fantastic series.

I will check out the sequel series! I love me so big, surprising twists.

I will also second the recommendation of the Moontide Quartet. While it still has it's flaws in doing so, it is one of my favourite portrayals of different cultures clashing in fantasy.

Anyone else read this? Sounds super interesting.

Sebastien de Castell is one of my favourite new authors. Be warned that he treats his characters as harshly as Robin Hobb does.
 

spatenfloot

Member
Oct 27, 2017
114
Since this seems like a good place to ask:
Bought a random book to balance out a gift card one day, The Magic of Recluce by Mondesitt. Read it last week, and kinda enjoyed it despite the simplistic writing. Should I continue with it?
I really liked The Magic of Recluce, but be aware that every book after it are essentially the same book.
 

Biske

Member
Nov 11, 2017
8,270
Yup, I admit that to me as well it doesn't get much better than the first and second trilogies of Thomas Covenant by Stephen Donaldson.


(The third trilogy got so complex and wordy I kinda got lost, I need to get back into it)

I really liked how he wrapped it all up. Pretty rare for an author to wrap up such a long series and not make it some shit fest mess. Donald is the goat for me.

Even his detective series, knocks it out of the park:

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And if you are in a Hard Sci Fi/ Space Opera mood his gap series hits pretty hard

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The GAP is just masterful. The way he takes you from the absolute depths and then at the end, you just wanna fucking cheer. God damn.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I loved those! My favourite in that style were Sorcery! and Lonewolf, though.

But Fighting Fantasy had some really fun and memorable ones too. My favourite was probably City of Thieves. I also liked Island of the Lizard King, The Forest of Doom, Scorpion Swamp (charting the map was surprisingly fun), Talisman of Death...

I read/played all of those in French, too. Lately I've obtained the e-book versions of Lonewolf for mobile (they're all free) and went on a big nostalgia trip. Note, this isn't the mobile/PC video game, but a direct adaptation of the original books for touch screen format. Almost everything is 100% faithful, with only minor tweaks for the format (like all the "diceroll"/random checks being automatic and so on). Pretty cool.


Well, I find the so-called philosophy of the books to be trite and pretentious, and I actually tend to prefer grimdark/nihilistic worlds and stories, but this one was just not remotely enjoyable. And honestly, deciding to build a world where women are canonically inferior just really makes you wonder what goes on in the author's head...
I'd forgotten the Lone Wolf books existed until I read about Joe Dever passing away a couple of years ago. I think the thing that prevented me getting into these was that they weren't self contained like the individual fighting fantasy books and any game books I had were bought second hand from those book stores you hardly seem to see anymore, so I just got what was available at the time.
 

Dazraell

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
1,843
Poland
I recently finished a first part of Komornik (it means Bailiff / Debt Collector in English), a series of novels from Polish writer Michał Gołkowski. Komornik is basically an urban fantasy set in modern times, few years after a biblical apocalypse. Apocalypse that went completely wrong. World as we know it may be dead, but people just refused to go with it. Modern technology allowed them to outsmart plagues, angels and their deadly Messengers.

Angels of Death tasked to kill mankind were lazy as hell and didn't wanted to do anything. So they decided to find suckers that will do their job for them. That's where the titular Bailiffs came in. They're group of regular people forced under signed contract to kill other people chosen by "The Above". Bailiffs have access to some magic, they even can resurrect themself if they happened to die.

Komornik is basically a story about one of those Bailiffs - the one named Ezekiel the Seventh and his journey through world after Apocalypse in search of a man named Jonasz. Gołkowski created unique and interesting world that mixes modern times, fantasy and post-apocalypse, with a very cool and memorable protagonist that also narrates this story in first person. It's a solid fantasy with some fresh and unique ideas. If you happen to know Polish, I recommend to give it a try. It's a first part of the trilogy.

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ilium

Member
Oct 25, 2017
477
Vienna
I was browsing amazon and saw that the Earthsea saga by Le Guin is getting a new illustrated edition in october. I preordered it just now, since I have never read them to my great shame. I'm kind of a latecomer when it comes to her work, I've only known her as the daughter of Alfred Kroeber.

I'm thinking about buying the german edition as a birthday present for the son of good friend, is 9 a good age to read them?

Edit: I just realized this isn't the Fantasy OT.
...Is there no Fantasy OT?


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TheBeardedOne

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Oct 27, 2017
22,189
Derry
You might like Stephen King's The Eyes of the Dragon. I've read part of it, but didn't finish it for some dumb reason. I'm not normally into fantasy, but I liked it and will re-read it.
 

Pixel Grotto

Member
Oct 27, 2017
894
I was browsing amazon and saw that the Earthsea saga by Le Guin is getting a new illustrated edition in october. I preordered it just now, since I have never read them to my great shame. I'm kind of a latecomer when it comes to her work, I've only known her as the daughter of Alfred Kroeber.

I'm thinking about buying the german edition as a birthday present for the son of good friend, is 9 a good age to read them?

Edit: I just realized this isn't the Fantasy OT.
...Is there no Fantasy OT?


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I think there is a sci-fi OT but no fantasy one. There SHOULD be!

I have never read Earthsea either but I had several old Earthsea paperbacks on my shelf as a child because my brother attempted them. He had trouble getting into them, mostly because I think epic fantasy filled with complicated names and lots of world building wasn't my brother's thing at that age. (He was more of a sword 'n sorcery guy.) He was about 9 at the time so 9 might be a tad young to really appreciate them, but I imagine if my bro had read these books via such a beautiful illustrated edition he might've enjoyed them more.
 

Fou-Lu

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,339
I've been reading Master Assassins by Robert V.S. Redick thanks to a recommendation by one of my favourite authors, Mark Lawrence. So far so good! It defies conventions while being a heck of a lot of fun.
 
Oct 27, 2017
7,409
I love Edding's Belgariad, Malorean, Elenium and Tamuli series, they're like comfort food reading for me. Going back to them as a more mature reader exposes the flaws, but the characters are still so charming and even after so many re-reads I still giggle at some of the more amusing bits.

Raymond E Feist's Magician, Silverthorn and Darkness at Sethanon are brilliant, but for the most part I feel he should have stopped there. That said, the book "Honoured Enemy" is a fantastic little side adventure set during the riftwar.

While we're on the subject, was anybody else into Fighting Fantasy gamebooks when they were younger? I've been on a nostalgia trip lately and miss a lot of these dearly.
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I also did a thread a few weeks back on fantasy/sci-fi art and artists, feel free to swing by and post your favourite cover arts.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/post-you-favourite-fantasy-sci-fi-art-and-artists.13129/

Yooooooo you just hit me in the face with a fist of nostalgia. Hadn't thought about these in like actual decades. Totally going down this rabbit hole now.
 

Qvoth

Member
Oct 26, 2017
11,889
so what new-ish (last 5 years or so) series are the hottest shit nowadays?
i know n k jemisin's broken earth kept winning awards so i've got that in my sights sometime in the future
i'm a big fan of locke lamorra series
 

ilium

Member
Oct 25, 2017
477
Vienna
I think there is a sci-fi OT but no fantasy one. There SHOULD be!

I have never read Earthsea either but I had several old Earthsea paperbacks on my shelf as a child because my brother attempted them. He had trouble getting into them, mostly because I think epic fantasy filled with complicated names and lots of world building wasn't my brother's thing at that age. (He was more of a sword 'n sorcery guy.) He was about 9 at the time so 9 might be a tad young to really appreciate them, but I imagine if my bro had read these books via such a beautiful illustrated edition he might've enjoyed them more.

Thanks! I think I'm going to wait for mine and read it first before I decide if I should get another one for his birthday. It's next year, so more than enough time. Hopefully the edition isn't too limited and I miss my chance or something.
 

Fou-Lu

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,339
so what new-ish (last 5 years or so) series are the hottest shit nowadays?
i know n k jemisin's broken earth kept winning awards so i've got that in my sights sometime in the future
i'm a big fan of locke lamorra series

If you are big fan of Locke Lamora may I recommend The Greatcoats series by Sebastien de Castell? It has a very similar tone and humour to it IMO and is one of my favourite newer series, and it's complete! It also has very intelligently written fight scenes as the author is a trained swordsman who used to do fight choreography.

I also recommend reading anything and everything by Mark Lawrence.

Michael J. Sullivan's The Riyria Revelations might be right down your alley too, Hadrian and Royce have a very good friendship reminiscent of Locke and Jean. It's complete but the author has written many more books in the same world.

For something a little different, The Powder Mage series is a great twist on the newly popular musket-era fantasy. Think mages who gain power by snorting gunpowder and then realize that the series treats that completely seriously. It's complete but a sequel series has begun.

The Traitor Son Cycle is a very odd take on Arthurian myth and with a historian behind the helm has some very detailed and accurate medieval battles against monsters. It can be quite dense, but it's a great series and just finished up!

The Lightbringer series has a really interesting magic system (magic users draw on different colours of light to create effects based on the colour of light they are born able to use) and has a ton of great, witty dialogue and political intrigue. It's a twisty one! One more book to go before it is complete, which I believe is aimed to be out next year.

The Faithful and the Fallen is a non-stop downhill ride into a chosen one story gone wrong. The author delights in demolishing tropes and twisting them to his whims. It's a complete series but also has a sequel series underway.

The Long War starts off a bit weak to be honest, but it ended up being a really interesting take on a 'High Fantasy' world that ties into the Lovecraft mythos. It is complete.

If you really want something that everyone is raving about then check out The Books of Babel it's about a school teacher and his adventures in a tower the side of a country and it is incredibly unique and well written. Not complete yet but the books are coming out at a good pace.

I would say Arcane Ascension is pretty hot now too with the influx of 'LitRPG' books. This one is a step above the rest though. It is really fun to read a world that seeks to weave an explanation for JRPG mechanics into the world and narrative in a way that doesn't make it feel super game-y.

Cradle is a western authors take on xianxia fiction, it's a light fun read and the books are coming out at a crazy pace (there are 5 books so far and the first came out in 2016).

The Licanius Trilogy is a spider web of a tale with connections between events and character that are sometimes obvious and sometimes very surprising. I've seen it compared to a lot of the classic complicated and lengthy fantasy series, but somehow it is only three books! The last book comes out in August.

I am not even sure what to say about this next recommendation, it's something you just have to read. It's a complex high fantasy tale set in a desert city with a badass woman as the main character: Song of the Shattered Sands.

Will I ever stop adding to this post? The Goblin Emperor is loved by any human who reads it that has a heart. It's a beautifully written standalone character study with a fantasy backdrop.

Chronicles of the Black Gate is a very solid, complete self-published series that starts a little meandering but really finds its stride in the later books. The author managed to release all five books within a year.
 
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Jag

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Oct 26, 2017
11,671
Starting the Greatcoats series soon. First book was $2.99 on Kindle. Looking forward to reading this on my vacation. Also have the latest Traitor Son Cycle book ready to go. I didn't love Lawrence or Riyria. Riyria is easy and fun, but his writing is not the best. Not sure if I'm going to read his new Empire pre-pre-quel series.

so what new-ish (last 5 years or so) series are the hottest shit nowadays?
i know n k jemisin's broken earth kept winning awards so i've got that in my sights sometime in the future
i'm a big fan of locke lamorra series

Highly recommend Mistborn series by Sanderson and First Law series by Abercrombie. Some fantastic world and character development.

Also love the Powder Mage series. Reading Book 2 of the second series now. Also Dagger and Coin series by Daniel Abraham. He is 1/2 of James SA Corey who wrote the Expanse (another great series, but sci-fi).
 

Pickman

Member
Nov 20, 2017
2,266
Huntington, WV
Dude, read Kings of the Wyld by Nicholas Eames. It's the most fun I've had in a fantasy novel in a while.

Synopsis:
Clay Cooper and his band were once the best of the best -- the meanest, dirtiest, most feared crew of mercenaries this side of the Heartwyld.

Their glory days long past, the mercs have grown apart and grown old, fat, drunk - or a combination of the three. Then an ex-bandmate turns up at Clay's door with a plea for help. His daughter Rose is trapped in a city besieged by an enemy one hundred thousand strong and hungry for blood. Rescuing Rose is the kind of mission that only the very brave or the very stupid would sign up for.

It's time to get the band back together for one last tour across the Wyld.

My thoughts:
Pure fun is a rare find in fantasy, but I ate this book up like handfuls of popcorn and left loving every second of it. It reads like a Rolling Stone special DnD issue with some Final Fantasy-esque fights and characters tossed in for good measure.
 

Fou-Lu

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,339
Jag, Sullivan really aims for plain, easy reading language in his books and for some people that makes them lose interest. I can understand why, but he builds such great relationships between his characters and the world they live in despite that.

I will note that starting any Sanderson series will likely end in his novels consuming your life for a while, his interconnected universe is vast and continually growing.

I agree with Pickman on the recommendation of Kings of the Wyld, it's a wonderful book.
 

visvim

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,160
For those of you who like Game Of Thrones and George R. R. Martin's books in general, you should check out a series called Memory, Sorrow and Thorn by Tad Williams.

They are actually direct influences on the ASoIAF series according to Martin himself. I read them a long time ago and definitely felt familiarity when I read ASoiAF the first time. Great books.

Book one:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/91981.The_Dragonbone_Chair
 

SwitchedOff

Member
Oct 28, 2017
2,516
J. R. R. Tolkien, Terry Pratchett and Robert Holdstock and easily my favorite fantasy authors.

Many people may not have heard of Robert Holdstock but I would very strongly recommend reading Mythago Wood and Lavondyss (in that order) - they are absolutely superb.
 

Redcrayon

Patient hunter
On Break
Oct 27, 2017
12,713
UK
Dude, read Kings of the Wyld by Nicholas Eames. It's the most fun I've had in a fantasy novel in a while.

Synopsis:
Clay Cooper and his band were once the best of the best -- the meanest, dirtiest, most feared crew of mercenaries this side of the Heartwyld.

Their glory days long past, the mercs have grown apart and grown old, fat, drunk - or a combination of the three. Then an ex-bandmate turns up at Clay's door with a plea for help. His daughter Rose is trapped in a city besieged by an enemy one hundred thousand strong and hungry for blood. Rescuing Rose is the kind of mission that only the very brave or the very stupid would sign up for.

It's time to get the band back together for one last tour across the Wyld.

My thoughts:
Pure fun is a rare find in fantasy, but I ate this book up like handfuls of popcorn and left loving every second of it. It reads like a Rolling Stone special DnD issue with some Final Fantasy-esque fights and characters tossed in for good measure.
I've just started reading this, really enjoying it! Have pre-ordered the sequel already.
 

SmokinDan

Member
Oct 27, 2017
37
Dude, read Kings of the Wyld by Nicholas Eames. It's the most fun I've had in a fantasy novel in a while.

Synopsis:
Clay Cooper and his band were once the best of the best -- the meanest, dirtiest, most feared crew of mercenaries this side of the Heartwyld.

Their glory days long past, the mercs have grown apart and grown old, fat, drunk - or a combination of the three. Then an ex-bandmate turns up at Clay's door with a plea for help. His daughter Rose is trapped in a city besieged by an enemy one hundred thousand strong and hungry for blood. Rescuing Rose is the kind of mission that only the very brave or the very stupid would sign up for.

It's time to get the band back together for one last tour across the Wyld.

My thoughts:
Pure fun is a rare find in fantasy, but I ate this book up like handfuls of popcorn and left loving every second of it. It reads like a Rolling Stone special DnD issue with some Final Fantasy-esque fights and characters tossed in for good measure.

Highly recommend this. It's great fun.
 

Spikematic

Member
Oct 28, 2017
2,357
Brandon Sanderson is probably my favorite author these days. The Stormlight Archive books are just spectacular.
 

Oligarchenemy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,332
I'm currently on book 4 of The Shadow Campaigns and this series is pretty great.

Just think of civil war era tech and magic.
 

Zelenogorsk

Banned
Mar 1, 2018
1,567
You might like Stephen King's The Eyes of the Dragon. I've read part of it, but didn't finish it for some dumb reason. I'm not normally into fantasy, but I liked it and will re-read it.

Great book!


All great reads.

The Traitor Son Cycle is a very odd take on Arthurian myth and with a historian behind the helm has some very detailed and accurate medieval battles against monsters. It can be quite dense, but it's a great series and just finished up!

Only on book 1 of this series but I've quite liked what I've read so far.
 

Aselith

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,362
The Bible is a good fantasy book...

- The Lords of Edge by Patrick S


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His Dark Materials by Phillip Pullman. It's kinda YAish but has a mature viewpoint a feel

The Bakers Boy by JV Jones I liked a lot

The Deathgate Cycle by Margaret Weis is really great. Always my go to recommendation either this or...

Raymond Feists various stuff. Silverthorne or the Magician books probably leaning toward Magician. The world is really imaginative and fun.

The Gormenghast novels are fucking amazing if you like dark fantasy. It's really, really, really dark but the prose and vivid language are absolutely fantastic. If you want to read some legit Literature, read this.
 
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Jag

Member
Oct 26, 2017
11,671
Only on book 1 of this series but I've quite liked what I've read so far.

Miles Cameron is the only author that has forced me to use the Kindle dictionary. I feel that sometimes he uses words that are bigger than necessary, but he has a fantastic command of the language and his worldbuilding is on point. Very big books, but I was just plowing through them.

Surprisingly haven't heard of The Band series by Eames, so I'm looking forward to reading it. It gives me a Druss the Legend by Gemmel vibe which I loved back when it first came out.

l should mention the Drenai series by David Gemmel. Start with Druss the Legend and see if it catches you (it will).

Thanks for The Band series recommendation.
 

Zelenogorsk

Banned
Mar 1, 2018
1,567
Miles Cameron is the only author that has forced me to use the Kindle dictionary. I feel that sometimes he uses words that are bigger than necessary, but he has a fantastic command of the language and his worldbuilding is on point. Very big books, but I was just plowing through them.

Yep, i have to look up a word about every 3 pages! Already half way through Red Knight, i just can't put it down.
 

Rand a. Thor

Banned
Oct 31, 2017
10,213
Greece
Since this is the go to thread for fantasy novels, I have two questions.
1. In terms of primer material, is the best order objectively Lord of the Rings-Game of Thrones-Wheel of Time-Book of Malazan? I am asking this because I did Malazan before WoT, and feel that if I did it the other way around, WoT would have been a better experience before the god tier fuckery of Malazan. Like I had to reread every 3 or 4 chapters each book, and by the time I got to WoT, the books felt like a breeze to me.

2. After I finish Wot-god knows when that will be I am still only on Chapter 2 of Crown of Swords and have 4 more books to go afterwards-where should I continue for huge series? I know the number of books isn't exactly a measure of worth, but I really can't deal with getting invested in a world without having a good chunk of material I can spend a year with. Obviously Brandon Sanderson and the Stormlight Archives, Magic of Recluce as I mentioned earlier, but what else? So far I have my eyes on The Runelords, The Sword of Truth, and the Rhapsody trikogy by Haydon. Are they any good?
 

cognizant

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Dec 19, 2017
13,755
I'm in the middle of Deadhouse Gates of the Malazan series (following the 'ultimate reading guide') and my mind is blown. I love both books I've read so far. Erikson's writing is sooo good.

I've read several Wheel of Time books years ago and gave up on it. It just remember feeling bored as hell at one point and immensely irritated at any chapter focused on a female character whose name I can't remember. I can't imagine ever returning to that series, the mere mention of it makes my jaw clench.

I feel like Malazan is going to be the Legend of the Galactic heroes of the fantasy genre for me. Everything else is gonna be downhill from this.
 

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
Member
Oct 24, 2017
34,352
So far I have my eyes on The Runelords, The Sword of Truth, and the Rhapsody trikogy by Haydon. Are they any good?
All I can say to that is avoid the Sword of Truth. An absolute dumpster fire of a series with the biggest asshole in fantasy as its author, who simply writes these books to peddle his toxic Randian/objectivist ideology with the subtlety of a sledgehammer. You can find more info in this old thread if you're curious.
 

cognizant

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Dec 19, 2017
13,755
Guys, I just found an amazing site, if you read your books on a kindle: http://thefictionary.net

It has book specific dictionaries. So for example, I'm on book 2 of the Malazan series. I've just downloaded a Malazan dictionary that doesn't have any spoilers for anything after book 2. While reading the book, I can long-press on a character's name or a beast or place, and it'll pop-up a brief description. Sooooo handy.
 

Jag

Member
Oct 26, 2017
11,671
All I can say to that is avoid the Sword of Truth. An absolute dumpster fire of a series with the biggest asshole in fantasy as its author, who simply writes these books to peddle his toxic Randian/objectivist ideology with the subtlety of a sledgehammer. You can find more info in this old thread if you're curious.

He's also not a fantasy writer, according to him. Also agree with skipping Sword of Truth. Watch the TV show instead. It was mildly entertaining.
 

Bricks

Member
Nov 6, 2017
621
The first book in the new trilogy by Joe Abercrombie - a sequel to The First Law - will likely come out in September 2019! Now the hype can officially begin.

I also had a meeting at the publisher to discuss how things are going. Looks very much as if the first book, A Little Hatred, will be published September 2019 in the UK and US, with the other two books, The Trouble With Peace, and The Beautiful Machine, following at beautifully regular and predictable one year intervals. This is the hope. No promises are made, of course. That would be MADNESS. We also hope that at least some of the key translations can be done in the meantime, so we can make that release date across a few different languages, which would be lovely.

https://www.joeabercrombie.com/2018/06/29/progress-report-june-18/
 

Fou-Lu

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,339
2. After I finish Wot-god knows when that will be I am still only on Chapter 2 of Crown of Swords and have 4 more books to go afterwards-where should I continue for huge series? I know the number of books isn't exactly a measure of worth, but I really can't deal with getting invested in a world without having a good chunk of material I can spend a year with. Obviously Brandon Sanderson and the Stormlight Archives, Magic of Recluce as I mentioned earlier, but what else? So far I have my eyes on The Runelords, The Sword of Truth, and the Rhapsody trikogy by Haydon. Are they any good?

Check out my post a little higher up on this page!
 

visvim

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,160
bumpty bump. Got myself a new kindle, after losing my last one on holiday.

Has anyone read Six of Crows by Leigh Bardug? Thinking about picking it up but my friend has bad taste in books, his recommendations usually not quite inline with my own, but Goodreads seems to like it.
 

FallenGrace

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,036
I am so happy someone recommended books by David Gemmell. He is one of my favorite fantasy authors. Any of his books would qualify as a great Fantasy novel. Denai Saga in particular is amazing. The way he can make his heroes more "real" is what got me hooked. No one is perfect, no one is born a hero. These characters have made mistakes and continue to make mistakes but hold a code that keeps them going. Great read if fantasy is your thing!

Happy so many are recommending David Gemmell. I didn't read much as a kid, was in the school library in Year 8 or 9, made a bet with a friend about who would finish a book faster, I think it had to be 400-500 pages minimum. Finished it 3 days later. Went through his entire bibliography by graduation (I think 30ish books?)
I came in to talk about Gemmell basically. He is my favorite author. I love all his books, the Drenai series, Rigante, Stones of Power etc. All just fantastic. He was so good at creating heroes and characters to me. Highly recommend his works. I've been upgrading my books to the kindle and re-read most of them the last couple of years and they seem even better than I remember. Druss will always be my favorite though Waylander isn't far behind.


Some authors not mentioned, been years since I've read them but I remember enjoying them a lot at the time:

Trudi Canavan - Magicians Guild

Maggie Furey - Aurian
 

cognizant

Member
Dec 19, 2017
13,755
I'm 90% done with Deadhouse Gates by Steven Erikson and I've decided it's the best fantasy novel I've ever read. Just hits all the right notes for me in every way.
 

neon_dream

Member
Dec 18, 2017
3,644
Ursula K Le Leguin's Earthsea novels. I'm rereading Tombs of Atuan right now and I'm floored at how good it is.

Le Guin and Earthsea are terribly underrated. Her writing is incredible. Earthsea is absolutely wonderful. These are fantasy books and literature of the highest order. She does some incredible things in this series from literary and fantasy perspectives.

I absolutely love Le Guin and Earthsea and believe she deserves to stand alongside Tolkien as one of the finest fantasy authors.

I'm going to go ahead and recommend the early Shannara books. Say what you want about the later books and about the quality of the writing, but I feel the first Shannara book at least is very solid with some interesting and well thought out ideas.

Raymond Feist's Riftwar series gets the same recommendation from me. The series goes long in the tooth and tiresome, however the first several books are really interesting from an idea perspective and solidly executed. I would easily recommend the first book, Magician.

All I can say to that is avoid the Sword of Truth. An absolute dumpster fire of a series with the biggest asshole in fantasy as its author, who simply writes these books to peddle his toxic Randian/objectivist ideology with the subtlety of a sledgehammer. You can find more info in this old thread if you're curious.

I'll go out of my way for a special mention on Sword of Truth and Terry Goodkind. These books are garbage of the highest order. They're loathsome, puerile, power fantasy indulgent crap with some of the most upsettingly mysoginistic bile I've ever seen put on page. When I read The Fountainhead 10 years later, I was unsurprised to find the same sort of horrifying mental garbage spewed there. I hated Goodkind before the internet hated Goodkind and I'm proud of it.
 
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Famassu

Member
Oct 27, 2017
9,186
J. R. R. Tolkien, Terry Pratchett and Robert Holdstock and easily my favorite fantasy authors.

Many people may not have heard of Robert Holdstock but I would very strongly recommend reading Mythago Wood and Lavondyss (in that order) - they are absolutely superb.
I read one book, had trouble finding others and then kind of forgot. That one book was pretty great, definitely one I have to return to one day.

Edit: from Holdstock, that is
 

Mochi

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
1,704
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Are the rest of Sanderson's books better than the first of the Mistborn trilogy? I found it hard to continue into the second.
 

DarkChronic

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Oct 27, 2017
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Are the rest of Sanderson's books better than the first of the Mistborn trilogy? I found it hard to continue into the second.

I just finished Book 2 of Mistborn for the first time a few days ago - it's my second least favorite book of his after Elantris. Way too much teenage drama/angsty romance, that's told extremely poor. Boring, repetitive, and uninteresting.

Sanderson really excels at his world building and lore. His characters and dialogue, in my opinion, remain the weakest part of his writing.

I would check out The Stormlight Archive for sure - it's by far and away his BEST series, and the characters within are actually pretty damn good (you'll have to overlook a lot of cringy dialogue every once and a while - he's not good with wit and banter). However, the story is super good, and the overall Cosmere story is fascinating.

I have such a weird relationship with Sanderson. I'm not huge on his prose, but I love his stories and I can't get enough of the Cosmere.
 

Mochi

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Oct 25, 2017
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I just finished Book 2 of Mistborn for the first time a few days ago - it's my second least favorite book of his after Elantris. Way too much teenage drama/angsty romance, that's told extremely poor. Boring, repetitive, and uninteresting.

Sanderson really excels at his world building and lore. His characters and dialogue, in my opinion, remain the weakest part of his writing.

I would check out The Stormlight Archive for sure - it's by far and away his BEST series, and the characters within are actually pretty damn good (you'll have to overlook a lot of cringy dialogue every once and a while - he's not good with wit and banter). However, the story is super good, and the overall Cosmere story is fascinating.

I have such a weird relationship with Sanderson. I'm not huge on his prose, but I love his stories and I can't get enough of the Cosmere.

Thanks for the informative response. Sounds like I started with the wrong trilogy. Even if his prose doesn't improve, I'll give him a second attempt if the characters do.

I feel bad being snobbish about his writing though, since he definitely does have great ideas.
 

Incandenza

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Oct 25, 2017
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I really think The Books of Babel is the fantasy series for me right now. Both novels in that series have been utterly brilliant. The Hod King is my most anticipated book in ages.
 

DarkChronic

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Thanks for the informative response. Sounds like I started with the wrong trilogy. Even if his prose doesn't improve, I'll give him a second attempt if the characters do.

I feel bad being snobbish about his writing though, since he definitely does have great ideas.

Haha I know what you mean. I often say to myself, "Yeah OK DarkChronic, what the hell have YOU published, if you think you're so good at writing?"

But, you know, it is what it is. As avid readers I think we can recognize good prose when we see it.
 

Redcrayon

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Oct 27, 2017
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J. R. R. Tolkien, Terry Pratchett and Robert Holdstock and easily my favorite fantasy authors.

Many people may not have heard of Robert Holdstock but I would very strongly recommend reading Mythago Wood and Lavondyss (in that order) - they are absolutely superb.
I must read Mythago Wood again- I read it as a child and much of the references to Celtic myth and the nature of the journey itself passed over my head, but it stayed with me long after I had put it down. I remember it made me feel uneasy in places, that has to be a good thing.