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Crossing Eden

Member
Oct 26, 2017
53,322
What'd Boogie do wrong?
A week ago he blamed Anita Sarkeesian and others like her, (people who talk about issues that exist in society and media), for Charlottesville, while at the same time arguing that we should've waited ten-twenty years to push for gay marriage. You could put a picture of Boogie next to this quote and it'd be accurate:
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Red Arremer

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
12,259
YouTube and Twitch both. They should just fess up that the money means more to them than any sort of actual stance of solidarity.

Twitch and YouTube keep placing mouth pieces about how they're all about diversity and inclusivity and how they want to celebrate pride month with their LGBT+ content creators, and then you have Twitch chat and streamers be consistently homo- and transphobic pieces of shit, and you have YouTube demonetize any video that has "gay" in its title and plant ads from an anti-gay religious extremist group to roll on LGBT+ content.

It's just peachy.
 

AnansiThePersona

Started a revolution but the mic was unplugged
Member
Oct 27, 2017
15,682
Boogie was even on Geoffs show this last E3. Several times, in fact. Even Kyle from Easy Allies apparently had no problem interviewing him for that show and ignoring everything he said the last 2 years. This guy would be a great fit!
The only Boogie gamers should be acknowledging is this one:

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FF Seraphim

Member
Oct 26, 2017
13,720
Tokyo
A week ago he blamed Anita Sarkeesian and others like her, (people who talk about issues that exist in society and media), for Charlottesville, while at the same time arguing that we should've waited ten-twenty years to push for gay marriage.

The fuck? How can anyone be so clueless? I cannot begin to wrap my head around this thought process. Does he even explain how he came to that conclusion?
 

OrdinaryPrime

Self-requested ban
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
11,042
What'd Boogie do wrong?

I feel like if ERA had memes this would be one.

Ok but what you want will only be a loss. You can't win that fight

A loss for what? People are just saying if he was really apologetic he'd say something more like:

"I realized that my toxicity and gay slurs are not the type of person I want to be. I want to apologize for all the hurtful things I've said in the past and how they've hurt other people. I promise to do better. I don't ask for your forgiveness but I hope at least for understanding that I can change as a person."

This isn't a zero sum game, people want accountability from someone who has hundreds of thousands of people following every little thing he does.

As it is, it's obvious this person is only doing it for monetary reasons not because he realizes it's wrong. That ain't enough for me to consider him any more than the piece of shit he was previously.
 

Poppy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,272
richmond, va
two days ago i was on wow general chat and told someone to stop saying gay and faggot derisively, and they said "its okay matey i'm from the US thats how we talk"

people are a fucking disaster, i dont get how they can be so self centered and shitty

like people have always been shitty on the internet but it wasnt funny 14 years ago and it still even less funny today
 

OrdinaryPrime

Self-requested ban
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
11,042
two days ago i was on wow general chat and told someone to stop saying gay and faggot derisively, and they said "its okay matey i'm from the US thats how we talk"

people are a fucking disaster, i dont get how they can be so self centered and shitty

like people have always been shitty on the internet but it wasnt funny 14 years ago and it still even less funny today

I was shitty on the Internet but back then, being shitty was just using witty comebacks like you were at recess or something. It wasn't just spamming CmonBruh or TriHard when a black person was on screen.
 

Poppy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,272
richmond, va
I was shitty on the Internet but back then, being shitty was just using witty comebacks like you were at recess or something. It wasn't just spamming CmonBruh or TriHard when a black person was on screen.
i feel like people have been outright racist on the internet as far back as i can remember and i've been using the internet since 1995

the fact is that the internet sorely lacks moderation even on (perhaps especially on) the most popular places, and people get away with being fucking idiots long enough to influence kids to do the same. no one basically ever faces repercussions. like you're right in the twitch is a complete cesspool and there's too much leeway on popular channels for people to get away with being terrible constantly

the internet is not an open frontier, the internet is 100% just another facet of the majority of the earth's people or close to it now, and it's time for basically everywhere to start cracking the fuck down on bad behavior, hard
 

Megasoum

Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,567
I don't know the guy so I decided to check his Twitter account... Within 2 minutes I stumble on this tweet.... Oh...ok

 

stone616

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
1,429
What'd Boogie do wrong?
Boogie is one of those people that will see wrong done to others and because he isn't a target or part of the targeted group try to downplay what happened. He basically suggest that on some level bigotry that doesn't target him should be tolerated.

Like Donald Trump and Charlottesville when he suggested there are good people on both sides and one side in a bunch of neo-nazis.

When JonTron said brown people are ruining this country and culture and it needs to be protected Boogie said we should listen to him and learn from him and meet in the middle.
 

LucidMomentum

Member
Nov 18, 2017
3,645
Boogie is one of those people that will see wrong done to others and because he isn't a target or part of the targeted group try to downplay what happened. He basically suggest that on some level bigotry that doesn't target him should be tolerated.

Like Donald Trump and Charlottesville when he suggested there are good people on both sides and one side in a bunch of neo-nazis.

When JonTron said brown people are ruining this country and culture and it needs to be protected Boogie said we should listen to him and learn from him and meet in the middle.

Until it affects his video games or net neutrality tho.

Then it's a big deal.
 

Rendering...

Member
Oct 30, 2017
19,089
There are so many of these people streaming to kids. Humans are fucked. I hate these kind of people so much. Making a lot of money while acting like total shit heads because they have influence.
Yeah it's deeply messed up that these people who have so much influence on kids can act like assholes with impunity because it's "entertaining," and in doing so pass on their shitty attitudes and habits to their impressionable audience.

Streamers and Youtubers with millions of subscribers have the power to fundamentally change culture through their influence on the younger generations, and look how they're using it: to spread bigotry and glamorize acting like a dick.

It's no wonder empathy and decency seem to be on the decline while unearned arrogance, narcissism, and intolerance are on the rise. The popularity of this type of entertainment, combined with social media, are probably creating social and political consequences we may not fully understand for decades.
 

spootime

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
3,430
Moe is human garbage. There's not much you can really do though. He's already made his millions scamming kids on gambling sites.
 

Monkey D.

Banned
Oct 31, 2017
2,352
The thing is it doesnt look like he is sorry for what he does or understands that using words like that are bad so it wont be long until he uses one of them again and then people should report him.
 

visvim

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,160
I litterally sold my P1 because people like this are giving it a bad rep in LA.

lol
 

Number9

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
316
Spain
A week ago he blamed Anita Sarkeesian and others like her, (people who talk about issues that exist in society and media), for Charlottesville, while at the same time arguing that we should've waited ten-twenty years to push for gay marriage. You could put a picture of Boogie next to this quote and it'd be accurate:

Source for this? I must've missed the thread.
 
Nov 13, 2017
459
Regarding Boogie and his 'both sides have validity' or 'sitting on the fence', that shit infuriates me.

I'm going to be extreme here and state this. In these kind of situations where discrimination is on the line, there is no 'two side of the same coin'. There is no 'sitting on the fence'. You are either with us or against us. Even if my attitude might be the reason 'Trump is in power' or that 'these people are popular because of your attitude', no, fuck you, there is no compromise.

If you feel you need to discriminate others with these actions, you are the enemy. That is all.
 

Chairmanchuck (另一个我)

Teyvat Traveler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,088
China
Regarding Boogie and his 'both sides have validity' or 'sitting on the fence', that shit infuriates me.

I'm going to be extreme here and state this. In these kind of situations where discrimination is on the line, there is no 'two side of the same coin'. There is no 'sitting on the fence'. You are either with us or against us. Even if my attitude might be the reason 'Trump is in power' or that 'these people are popular because of your attitude', no, fuck you, there is no compromise.

If you feel you need to discriminate others with these actions, you are the enemy. That is all.

I dont really think Boogie is really on the "both sides" fence. He clearly sympathizes with GG ideas, but is too much of a coward to go full into that, so he just says "maybe they have a point!"
 

Number9

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
316
Spain
Regarding Boogie and his 'both sides have validity' or 'sitting on the fence', that shit infuriates me.

I'm going to be extreme here and state this. In these kind of situations where discrimination is on the line, there is no 'two side of the same coin'. There is no 'sitting on the fence'. You are either with us or against us. Even if my attitude might be the reason 'Trump is in power' or that 'these people are popular because of your attitude', no, fuck you, there is no compromise.

If you feel you need to discriminate others with these actions, you are the enemy. That is all.

I'm sure that kind of reasoning will lead to a free world and not two groups of people fighting to death till one of them manages to exert control over the other.
 
Nov 13, 2017
459
I'm sure that kind of reasoning will lead to a free world and not two groups of people fighting to death till one of them manages to exert control over the other.

Neither is compromising and going the whole 'both sides' while minorities and LGBTQ members waiting decades for the conservatives to be a little reasonable and allow basic equality rights.
 

Deleted member 16039

User requested account closure
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Oct 27, 2017
793
MoE_TV : So, apparently, using racial and homophobic slurs can get you in trouble ? B... but why NO ONE TOLD ME ?! OH MAN I'M SO SORRY GUYS !

...

Seriously, why do you watch low pieces of shit like this guy ?
 
Nov 4, 2017
7,372
Ugh, I've never heard of this dude before but what a piece of shit. As a straight white male growing up in Australia, I of course used this word CONSTANTLY as a teen, much to my shame. These days I consider it equivalent to using the N-word, and would never consider it unless using it in an academic sense or rapping alone in my car (even then, I don't feel good about it). English has half a million words, probably more than any other language (plus we'll just absorb any other words we need), why make a big deal about having to give up one word which hurts and offends so many people?
 
Nov 13, 2017
459
if one group is nazis, should they not be controlled?

Nah, let's treat them with equal opinions and try to compromise instead of 'fighting against oppression'. Those people who fought against it in Nazi Germany and during Segregation? They should have compromised, otherwise it will be fighting to the death between two groups for control. We wouldn't want that!
 

Number9

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
316
Spain
Neither is compromising and going the whole 'both sides' while minorities and LGBTQ members waiting decades for the conservatives to be a little reasonable and allow basic equality rights.
Resulting to dialogue instead of violence is not compromising, is the only way to go for any society to prosper.


if one group is nazis, should they not be controlled?
Well, same as with Communists or any other group, if someone does something illegal you can call the police or take them to court and they'll be judged for their actions. Thankfully the law in western countries already forbids practices these groups need to follow in order to make their ideology work.
 
Nov 4, 2017
7,372
Well, same as with Communists or any other group, if someone does something illegal you can call the police or take them to court and they'll be judged for their actions. Thankfully the law in western countries already forbids practices these groups need to follow in order to make their ideology work.
I... don't think you understand what a communist is.
 

jon bones

Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,012
NYC
Well, same as with Communists or any other group, if someone does something illegal you can call the police or take them to court and they'll be judged for their actions. Thankfully the law in western countries already forbids practices these groups need to follow in order to make their ideology work.

I have real doubts you are this naive, and I think you are arguing in bad faith to dismiss and minimize how serious the rise of far right ideology is.
 

Deleted member 2172

Account closed at user request
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
4,577
Fuck m0e, ive always hated that dude. He is one of the worst guys to be in the CS:GO community, but who gives a fuck if Geoff Keighley follows him on Twitter OP? Leave him out of it.
 

Deleted member 19996

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 28, 2017
1,897
People like him are the reason Twitch really needs a block feature so that you never see their stream or content.
 

Number9

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
316
Spain
The means of production being owned by the people, the eradication of capitalist exploitation and reduced income disparity?
The means of production and resources of the country controlled by a privileged elite that distribute them at will oppressing the entire population. That and a death toll of more than 100 million people throughout history, but you conveniently left that point out.

You should probably read The Gulag Archipelago before talking about Communism.