No one is denying that there are a lot of sword users on the roster. People just think it's a dumb thing to harp on when there are even more characters which fight unarmed or with no particular weapon.
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No one is denying that there are a lot of sword users on the roster. People just think it's a dumb thing to harp on when there are even more characters which fight unarmed or with no particular weapon.
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I think in order of more likely to least like to become newcomer for 7th Gen Pokemon
1. Mimikyu
2. Incineroar and Lycanroc (ties)
4. Decidueye
5. Ultra Beast
But I'm not giving up on my freaking owl.
Always. I know we are really thirsty for any small kind of new news. Hopefully they would throw a bone at us this week.
Shhhhhhh. let me hope for the best.
I'd say it's because competitive Smash in general has gotten much bigger and mainstream than it was during the Melee/Brawl days. When I was a stupid 10 year old, I always thought "lol, screw these tourneytards and their stupid rulesets and tier lists and their Melee elitism!" in regards to competitive play.
They instead went for this weird edgy 90's Mega Man for years instead of the fun classic.
And of course he was popular, Inafune pushed him down people's throats for years as the actual main character in that series.
I honestly hate 90s stuff.
I think in order of more likely to least like to become newcomer for 7th Gen Pokemon
1. Mimikyu
2. Incineroar and Lycanroc (ties)
4. Decidueye
5. Ultra Beast
But I'm not giving up on my freaking owl.
Always. I know we are really thirsty for any small kind of new news. Hopefully they would throw a bone at us this week.
Shhhhhhh. let me hope for the best.
Really? Mimikyu as the most likely? I guess I wouldn't be against it. Idk what Lycanroc is but Incineroar looks so dumb and we already have characters that are kinda sorta similar. I think the owl is more unique but that's just my two cents. And Mimikyu would also be a unique and interesting addition I admit.
Given that the design doc was finalized as early as it was, I'm not sure I'd put Lycanroc as high as you would, but you do you.
Any reason for Incineroar being #2 though? Is it just the idea that Sakurai might not want Decidueye because Pokken already did it?
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That's what many smash fans believe in. My list is the collection of what people are thinking who are more likely to be in Smash Bros. It could be Zorozark situation where most of the fans might be wrong about their choices. I will never lay my sword down for Decidueye and kept fighting until bittersweet end.
Pushing doesn't mean people will love the character, (see Zoroark) People like Zero. It's fine if you don't but don't act like he's only big because Inafune shilled him.
X was a great evolution to the series and frankly better then classic in a lot of ways.
Maybe instead of blaming X blame MM7 and 8 for being such divisive games.
Has 3 forms:
The last one (Dusk form) was the one which got a lot of marketing around the release of Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon, so I'm guessing it's the most likely, but the form which walks on two legs (Midnight form) is pretty popular as well, so who knows. I'd be cool with any of them but I still think Mimikyu or a starter is more likely.
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Look at my previous comment, and some supports faltered so hard because of "grass starter must-have" got denied so hard by Pokemon Trainer's inclusion so people are grasping for the straw to predict what would be in. They want to support the "winners" in a sense. Also some people think theory Decidueye being in Pokken, then he wouldn't be in Smash Bros rules is plausible.
Lycanroc (Dawn/Midnight) are still popular if they want to go with that. I'm totally okay with werewolves Lycanroc but I admits that is pretty unlikely tho.
Whatever excuses you come up for it, he's still really popular.
he's one of the few megaman characters normal people can identify that isn't a mega man.
from a distance mimikyu really doesn't resemble Pikachu any more than Pichu does
coloring is different, the head is similar but ragged & kind of droops, the body is different and the idles & movements should be totally different
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Oh silhouette argument is it? People said same thing about Daisy and lookie who got in at the end?
The only people that would confuse Mimikyu for Pikachu are the cops from Sonic Adventure 2 which confuse Sonic for Shadow.
The Shadow of the Mega Man universe. The Ashley of the WarioWare universe.
Eh this argument makes no sense. He said "play absolutely nothing like them", while Daisy is a copy of Peach.
But regardless I don't think what that guy said is any major concern.
I doubt they are, Inafune just always disliked Mega Man, he didn't create him.
The X series is the worst MM series, imo. It's barely similar to the Classic game, the focus is all on dash, not platforming.
Daisy is going to play pretty much just like Peach. Mimikyu isn't going to play like Pikachu or Pichu. I'm just wondering is all.
I don't think anyone's doubting her prominence as a Donkey Kong character
That aside, I was actually on her side in the video!
Me thinking of mystical/legendary creatures that have yet to be repped, only one that's come to mind at the moment that's missing is Mermaid? Are there any notable Mermaids in gaming? Theres gotta be a RPG of some sort.....not sure if I would count the Sun and Moon starter as a mermaid lol.
He's also still inexplicably a super heavyweight character.
It's been a while so I won't comment on the platforming. No idea what your talking about Infaune either considering how big Mega Man was.
Though X isn't my favorite MM series anyway. That's the Zero series.
how many heavy characters in smash are also slow characters
i feel like a lot of the usual suspects are secretly fast. DK runs fast. Dedede isn't too shabby. Bowser got a speed buff. Charizard glides. Snake's heavy but not slow. Wario is bouncing around everywhere, and actually I don't think he's a heavy weight at all.
Ike & Ganondorf are the only ones i can think of
i feel like a lot of the usual suspects are secretly fast. DK runs fast. Dedede isn't too shabby. Bowser got a speed buff. Charizard glides. Snake's heavy but not slow. Wario is bouncing around everywhere, and actually I don't think he's a heavy weight at all.
Ike & Ganondorf are the only ones i can think of
detective pikachu is a bit thicker than normal, but silhouettes shouldn't be a problem: they're pretty different from each other
You have to zoom out. Think about how far the camera pulls back in a Smash battle. Mimikyu would look like a bizarre Pikachu or Pichu. But it would play nothing like them.
I'm just wondering about the possibility of that holding it back.
not gonna lie, Pichu coming back did kind of make me feel like Mimikyu's chances are going up in flames :(
Any new Kirby rep is fine by me but how on earth would Gooey work as a Kirby echo? He can't use swords, hammers or punch.
A semi clone would be a better idea. Gooey can inhale and copy abilities right?
He always said he liked Zero more and wanted to make a red hero instead of Mega Man. X, Zero and ZX series all ditch Mega Man for more Zero while he ditched the Classic series and just made some meh nostalgia games after many years. They also added Zero to MvC3 instead of Mega.
That's like if they created a 90s edgy rival for Mario and used him instead of Mario in Smash. It sucks.
it still wouldn't really like like them though
The body shape is different. The coloring is different. The idles would also help a lot since the head would bob and such.
If it doesn't get in I can't see it being because it maybe kind of resembles pikachu's silhouette from a far distance and you squint
He wouldn't. But I keep forgetting all the echos they've shown off are basically 1:1 copies, in my mind I'm still holding out for semi-clones being a thing. Maybe they could let him morph his body into little gooey arms and legs when he attacks.
The MVC3 fiasco was really Niitsuma being kind of a dope rather than it being any influence from Inafune.
Dedede is really slow actually. Wario (as heavy as Ike) is actually slow on the ground too but he pretty much has the best air mobility.
Ganon, Snake and Ike were pretty slow before but they look noticeably faster now. I know Wario's dash speed looks faster too (and his airspeed even faster lol)
was wario slow on the ground? I guess his weird run animation fooled me
Ganondorf actually looked slower than Bowz in the videos I watched, his running and jumping seem super slow even now,
Zero is dead in ZX. Bar X7(where the focus is more on Axl anyway)X gets equal playtime as Zero in the whole X series. Classic is still more alive now then Legends and ZX which are both still sitting on Cliffhangers so I really don't see why you need to complain.
On Marvel Vs I can't really comment on the fact other then Zero is really popular. It's not like he's the only one who ever gets in. MvC3 had Tron, TvC had Roll and Volnutt, and MvCI had X.
Mimikyu has an entirely different silhouette from Pikachu. That's sort of the point, it's a lil gremlin wearing a really crappy Pikachu costume.
Yeaahh. His dashspeed is mediocre and he has one of the slowest walkspeeds.
Bowser's dashspeed was always really fast though. Jumpsquat speed are also universal now so he can't be any slower than anyone else there. (though his jumps still look pretty low and floaty if that's what you mean)
That seems like a problem that would end as soon as you start actually playing the game.
The final forms in ZX are all using Zero's form, which is complete bullshit and Inafune bias.
And yeah, I know about Volnutt and X, but they at least are Mega Man. The MvC3 thing sucks because there's no Mega Man at all in the game.
You posted the picture of Pikachu and Mimikyu facing each other. They have a similar-ish size. They have a similar-ish look. But they would play absolutely nothing alike.
With Pikachu and Pichu in the game, I wonder if that hurts Mimikyu's chances.
Yeah, Ganondorf's general movements just look a lot less buffed than the rest of the cast. I haven't smashed in forever so I don't recall the specifics between characters too well. Low and floaty is a good way of putting it.
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