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Skelepuzzle

Member
Apr 17, 2018
6,119
It's nuts that people, even here, thought that this dumbass would accomplish anything positive with NK.
 

Mr_Antimatter

Member
Oct 28, 2017
2,571
People mock trump for this because it was obvious he had no actual plan, and it was just a photo op. He's a glory hound, despite not actually doing anything to warrant such glory.
 

Aaronrules380

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
22,470
I wouldnt say "enemy of the people", but when the media calls trump supporters evil bigots and encourage violence and discrimination against us, yes it feels that way.
Who the fuck has encouraged violence or discrimination against you? Or do you honestly believe people laughing at you and mocking the beliefs you willingly chose is the same as being unable to get a job based on the skin color you were born with?
 

thefit

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,243
If Trump signs anything close to the Iran deal I'd be the first one to call it out
He did though, literally signed a sheet of nothing with North Korea. This was in fact worse that the so called "worst deal ever" with Iran because it was literally NOTHING in exchange for complete legitimization of Kim, his totalitarian government, nuclear aspirations and countless crimes against humanity AND he did it all himself in person as if it was some pageant of utter stupidity he even went as far as saluting the enemy.

The Iran deal was a carefully crafted agreement that took months of negotiations between a lot of countries and the outcome was so air tight that when Trump demanded its details and impact be evaluated his own people came to the same conclusion that it was in fact a good deal. But that didn't stop people like Bolton and others convince moron in chief by parroting the same bullshit line you have parroted "the worst deal ever", because all people like you do is parrot right wing bs with out even a bit of curiosity.
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,293
Who the fuck has encouraged violence or discrimination against you? Or do you honestly believe people laughing at you and mocking the beliefs you willingly chose is the same as being unable to get a job based on the skin color you were born with?

Right wing snowflake cucks have very fragile egos so calling them out on their hatred and criticizing their actions comes across as psychological terrorism and violence.
 

BigBallsMcgee

Banned
Jun 30, 2018
51
That's not what I asked you. Do you condemn Trump actively inciting murders of journalists from his base? That is –factually– what is happening. Stop trying to weasel your way out of questions. It's not going to work.

I answered you, I wouldn't say "enemy of the people, I think thats too strong but I do support the him callling out the media on their b.s.

And no I dont support any calls for violence, but I dont believe he's actually asked his supporters to go kill someone
 

BigBallsMcgee

Banned
Jun 30, 2018
51
He did though, literally signed a sheet of nothing with North Korea. This was in fact worse that the so called "worst deal ever" with Iran because it was literally NOTHING in exchange for complete legitimization of Kim, his totalitarian government, nuclear aspirations and countless crimes against humanity AND he did it all himself in person as if it was some pageant of utter stupidity he vent went as far as saluting the enemy.

The Iran deal was a carefully crafted agreement that took months of negotiations between a lot of countries and the outcome was so air tight that when Trump demanded its details and impact be evaluated his own people came to the same conclusion that it was in fact a good deal. But that didn't stop people like Bolton and others convince moron in chief by parroting the same bullshit line you have parroted "the worst deal ever", because all people like you do is parrot right wing bs with out even a bit of curiosity.

What they signed so far was just a formality, it was meaningless. basically said "we agree to work towards peace". lol

If he signs some serious deal where we give up a ton and get fleeced under the pretense that NK denukes I will be the first one to call it out
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,293
I answered you, I wouldn't say "enemy of the people, I think thats too strong but I do support the him callling out the media on their b.s.

And no I dont support any calls for violence, but I dont believe he's actually asked his supporters to go kill someone

I didn't ask you what you think of the media - I asked you what you think of Trump's statements on the media that have led to murders of journalists.

Some of his supporters are indeed taking his words and turning them into action. Do you not at least concede that a sitting President has an obligation to take responsibility for and condemn the actions of those that claim to have been inspired to violence from his words?
 

thefit

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,243
What they signed so far was just a formality, it was meaningless. basically said "we agree to work towards peace". lol

If he signs some serious deal where we give up a ton and get fleeced under the pretense that NK denukes I will be the first one to call it out

See that's all people like you do is move the goal post. I've never seen so much effort across continents spanning millions of dollars and hours spent including in person meeting between a super power and a Tyrannical totalitarian leader just for a "formality". Its true that no one has ever done this because no one is a stupid as Trump.
 

Deleted member 44129

User requested account closure
Banned
May 29, 2018
7,690
Who the fuck has encouraged violence or discrimination against you? Or do you honestly believe people laughing at you and mocking the beliefs you willingly chose is the same as being unable to get a job based on the skin color you were born with?

This is what they do, they accuse others of their indiscretions.
Trump supporters want to oppress minorities then claim they are oppressed minorities.
Trump supporters throw gay couples out of bakeries, and when someone does it back to a GOP Press sec, they get to play victim.
Trump supporters see the Black Lives Matter movement, and hijack/reclaim the cause as "Blue Lives Matter"
Trump lies to reporters then wails that the press lie about him.
 

Bramblebutt

Banned
Jan 11, 2018
1,858
I never said anything about celebrating trump either. Nothing has been accomplished.

But I also dont agree with mocking at him in his efforts to help do something fantastic.
You're asking people to appreciate the effort he put into denuclearization, but the effort he put in is historically inferior to the efforts of his predecessors, or even his contemporaries like Moon. I find it hard to appreciate poor efforts based on old policy. It's perfectly appropriate to mock Trump for thinking he solved North Korea with such a facile attempt.
 

Aaronrules380

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
22,470
You must have missed the last few weeks where people are supporting kicking us out of restaurants. Thats dscrimination
But it's ok when gay people get denied service? Something which is far , far more common in this country than what you' described which happened few enough times that it could be counted on one hand? And there's a difference between denying service based on something a person can't help like skin color or sexual orientation and beliefs anyways
 

BigBallsMcgee

Banned
Jun 30, 2018
51
User Banned (Permanent): Repeated bad faith arguments throughout the thread, thread derailment, account still in junior phase.
Trump supporters want to oppress minorities. Do not pretend to be the oppressed minority.

No we don't. There's a sect of racist bigots that support Trump but they are not even close to representative of Trump's support.

The media pushes that narrative though
 

Kyra

The Eggplant Queen
Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,253
New York City
I don't like the tariff idea

I don't like all the turnover in his admin

I don't like some of his flip flops which he does to appease people that will always hate him anyway

I don't like the general disorganization you see

don't like some of the tweeting

Trumps tweets are drenched with racism and hate. They are a reflection of him. they are his thoughts and desires. So if you dont like his tweets you dont like him. but you actually do like him enough to vote for him so you are actually full of shit just like him. But that is ok. ill entertain you for a bit.

There are thousands of Americans dead in puerto rico because this administration under trump did not provide enough aid to the island after the storm. Americans were left to die under trump.

Children were kept in cages separated form their families because so called "rapists and murderers" are trying to infiltrate the US at the mexican boarder. Regardless of past events this is a policy under trump that was later made worse by an executive order that's only purpose was to stifle protest and slip yet more nefarious policy to detain Immigrants indefinitely.

The trump administration is activly trying to get rid of covering preexisting conditions for health insurance with no plan in place to substitute for it.

You dont seem to have a problem with any of these because youve "got what you wanted" out of his presidency. There are many many many more failings under this scum of a president. But you would only dismiss them as you are just another troll or just another deplorable whos drank the kool aid.

In this story you are the bad guy. You support the villain. You are on the wrong side of history. There is nothing that should be supported under this admin. The only thing that should be supported is impeachment. No success no victories. Nothing. Trump should practice looking at a grey brick wall to be productive and stop pretending to be president.
 

McMahon

Banned
May 24, 2018
1,603
Los Angeles
if you're not going to believe anything I say about my own opinion, whats the point of our discussion man.
you're a trumpster, your existence is clouded in lies and obfuscation. you can't even see the truth of the dirtbag you support. there's never any fucking way you change to be better. you're a lost cause as a human being. at least his policies will eventually fuck you so hard you fuck off into oblivion and never engage in politics again.
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,293
You must have missed the last few weeks where people are supporting kicking us out of restaurants. Thats dscrimination

"Kicking out" is an interesting and incredibly biased way of putting "politely asking to leave and telling them dinner was on the house". Please acknowledge this before proceeding this debate.

Trump supporter != racist bigot

The fact that people believe that, sucks.

By the way, have you ever heard the phrase "Apologists are enablers"? I know that you americans have been brought up under a heavy pretense of individualism, but there is such a thing as collective responsibility in human society. You can't deny that.
 

Garrett 2U

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,511
Anyone with half a brain could have predicted this.
It's not entirely shocking the the man with a quarter of a brain is just now coming to realize it.
 

Lump

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,034
Trump supporter != racist bigot

The fact that people believe that, sucks.

If you support a President that is overtly racist and runs on a platform of furthering bigotry, you're a bigot. Sorry if the truth hurts, bucko - and furthermore, you are most certainly not the fucking victim.
 

mutantmagnet

Member
Oct 28, 2017
12,401
Even under a different President I would not trust North Korea to honor any deal either.


The problem I have Trump here is that he was a load of hot air with his day 1 victory proclamations and the more importantly the fact he expressed ending joint exercises with SK without their foreknowledge as well as without tangible concessions from NK.
 

Sho_Nuff82

Member
Nov 14, 2017
18,438
I don't know how you guys manage to let someone derail a thread about a national military concern into a personal pity party.

The first time someone deflects a factual question about the topic of discussion, move on.
 

Kyra

The Eggplant Queen
Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,253
New York City
Hes gone now. we can back to talking about how everyone knew this was going to fucking happen because trump cant flush a toilet without fucking up.
 

Midramble

Force of Habit
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
10,461
San Francisco
So wait... He's still planning on ending joint operations with SK while saying NK wont change anything? Simultaneously claiming negociative victory?

Am I reading this stuff wrong?
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,293
I don't know how you guys manage to let someone derail a thread about a national military concern into a personal pity party.

The first time someone deflects a factual question about the topic of discussion, move on.

It's a lot more fun to challenge them. Not sure what else to talk about in this thread aside from "lol Trump is a complete buffoon and has no idea what he's doing aside from wanting to meet his idols", I guess?
 

Aaronrules380

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
22,470
The fact that leaders like Trump will make major concessions just to get to the negotiations started is exactly why NK will never actually denuclearize