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Antrax

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,286
So in raising my child, I have the responsibility to teach good manners and how to behave in general. It occurred to me recently that I never really grasped WHY we do some things as a society the way that we do. For instance:

No elbows on the table

Maybe I'm just not high class enough (I have no idea which fork goes where) but I've never personally subscribed to this one. If anything, it's a compliment to how good the food is. How would one eat a 3/4 pound double cheeseburger without putting their elbows on the table?

Don't point

I feel like this is a holdover from the days of the Salem witch trials or something. Pointing is a really effective way to communicate with someone. I could see how pointing to someone and saying something disrespectful could be bad, but surely that's more on the words than the gesture, right?


So what are some "Do"s or "Don't"s you never understood?

You're misunderstanding both of these. The elbows rule is only while you're actually eating. It's fine during chit chat. The idea is to avoid looking like you're shoveling food in your mouth. It's not a big deal unless you're at a formal place.

The pointing thing is to not point at strangers. That's rude as fuck since it means you're talking about them and they know it and can't respond.
 

Lumination

Member
Oct 26, 2017
12,486
Depends where you're at on the food chain. I'm at the bottom at my job, so it's only good for me to hear what others make, but it's weird to hear others complain about being underpaid when they make $10,000 more than you.
Yeah, that's pretty much what I mean. It's only beneficial to you, but it would feel weird to you.
 

Deleted member 40133

User requested account closure
Banned
Feb 19, 2018
6,095
Not giving the bride and groom lots of money or an expensive gift at their wedding. Like, I'm broke. Why am I expected to give you $200 when I show up to your wedding?

And if your counter-argument is "because weddings are expensive", then maybe: stop throwing expensive weddings?

It's a cultural thing. I have an italian background and am putting on a very expensive wedding that i can pay for many times over. Your meal is costing me $200 (each), it's more common courtesy to get SOMETHING. So really i am agreeing with you, if you can only afford $50 or something small, yeah that's fine. But i'm going to use your point as a jumping off point. Their are people who if the bride and groom aren't registered someplace for gifts they just get them nothing instead of the minimal effort of a card and some cash. Which quite frankly is bullshit. You wouldn't go to a birthday party without a gift
 

Wishbone Ash

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 29, 2017
3,849
Michigan
Holding the doors open for people.

What? Do you like it when someone is two feet in front of you, and just lets a door slam in your face?

I mean, there's definitely a point where you shouldn't be expected to stand and look like a fool for someone across the parking lot or something, but this one is pretty odd to disagree with
 

Goldenroad

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Nov 2, 2017
9,475
Not tipping...in Canada. Servers here are all required by law to be paid at least minimum wage...so the person working at McDonalds making minimum wage has to tip when they go out to eat somewhere why? I just don't understand the double standard. I work my ass off for my customers and I have only been offered a very small tip like maybe twice in my entire career and I have always politely declined. That is what should be expected of all restaurant staff in Canada. I had a cousin who was a server and got all pissed off because he "only" got a $100 tip on a $1000 bill. Only $100...on top of his way more than minimum wage that he was making at the time. I get that minimum wage is not always enough to live on, but that's across the board...not just for servers.
 

ratcliffja

Member
Oct 28, 2017
5,918
What's so bad about pushing over small children? What's the point in growing older if you can't take advantage of it?
 

Koo

Member
Dec 10, 2017
1,863
Don't eat the last cookie.
Someone has to. Why not me?
I'm that guy I will eat the last of whatever to save people the shame of being the last to eat something. I agree, someone has to eat it. It's the worst when everyone is sharing a pizza and there is one slice left and everyone just sort of side eyes it for 10 minutes. Like everyone wants it, but nobody wants to say. I usually am just like - anyone want? No? *munch*
 

Rivenblade

Member
Nov 1, 2017
37,127
Waiting for everyone to get their food before you start eating. I get it. It's just...inconvenient.
 

capitalCORN

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
10,436
Not tipping...in Canada. Servers here are all required by law to be paid at least minimum wage...so the person working at McDonalds making minimum wage has to tip when they go out to eat somewhere why? I just don't understand the double standard. I work my ass off for my customers and I have only been offered a very small tip like maybe twice in my entire career and I have always politely declined. That is what should be expected of all restaurant staff in Canada. I had a cousin who was a server and got all pissed off because he "only" got a $100 tip on a $1000 bill. Only $100...on top of his way more than minimum wage that he was making at the time. I get that minimum wage is not always enough to live on, but that's across the board...not just for servers.

Server minwage is usually less than the normal minwage.
 

sph3re

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 28, 2017
8,403
Asking for a friend (no fooling, actually a friend)

Is it socially unacceptable to take out your Nintendo Switch at a restaurant and play it while waiting for your food?
 

capitalCORN

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
10,436
Asking for a friend (no fooling, actually a friend)

Is it socially unacceptable to take out your Nintendo Switch at a restaurant and play it while waiting for your food?
People fiddle with their phones all the time. Why not? Unless you're on a group outing/date and are ignoring the other party.
 

Croc Man

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,546
Referring to people as "he/she" when they're present. It's just easier to say!
Plus I think repeatedly saying a name sounds weird, maybe because that's what sleazy sales people do.
 

sph3re

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 28, 2017
8,403
This is perfectly fine

if you are still ordering off the kids menu.
LOL, well alright then.

Funny you mention that though, because a family of 4 sat next to us and their youngest daughter pulled out a Nintendo DS. Didn't help my friend make his point, lol. I still don't see the issue, though.
 

joecanada

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,651
Canada
Depends where you're at on the food chain. I'm at the bottom at my job, so it's only good for me to hear what others make, but it's weird to hear others complain about being underpaid when they make $10,000 more than you.
Just one more reason to unionize. Want to know how much I make ? Look at my pay grid. Want to know how much my female counterpart makes? See same grid.
 

Kitsunebaby

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,665
Annapolis, Maryland
My father used to flick me in the temples whenever he saw I had my elbows on the table. All that did was give me a hatred for silly rules. If you're a stickler for etiquette regardless of whether it's pragmatic or not, I'm probably going to assume you're a narcissist constantly searching for reasons to look down on others.
 

Kapryov

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,144
Australia
Socks and Sandals.

I don't do it - I don't wear sandals - but if you dare to look down while in public transport you can see some nasty ass feet... I support a movement of forced socks and sandals (if you're not going to take care of your feet).
 

adrem007

Banned
Nov 26, 2017
2,679
Asking for a friend (no fooling, actually a friend)

Is it socially unacceptable to take out your Nintendo Switch at a restaurant and play it while waiting for your food?

While I get the phone comparison and all, I would totally make fun of a friend for something like this just for shits and giggles, sorry man
 

BLEEN

Member
Oct 27, 2017
21,890
Not giving the bride and groom lots of money or an expensive gift at their wedding. Like, I'm broke. Why am I expected to give you $200 when I show up to your wedding?

And if your counter-argument is "because weddings are expensive", then maybe: stop throwing expensive weddings?
I'm so with you. Fuck that. Live less extravagant.
 

Lump

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,036
Why the fuck does punctuation go inside the quotes in American grammar, it should be outside the quotes unless the punctuation is actually part of the quote.
 

Adam_Roman

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,068
One that's frustrated me lately is how baby boomers and older despise talking about mental health. My dad acts like I should be ashamed that I see a therapist (despite him being the main reason I see one) and that I take an antidepressant. He doesn't believe that literally every one of my friends is super understanding and supportive of it. Hell, he refused to go to marriage counseling with my mom. I know this is mainly focusing on him but I've seen it from plenty of other older people.
 

ctj

Prophet of Truth
The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
2,318
Bay Area, California
Why the fuck does punctuation go inside the quotes in American grammar, it should be outside the quotes unless the punctuation is actually part of the quote.
I'm American and this annoys the hell out of me. I usually just put the punctuation outside even though it's considered "incorrect". It also just looks horrible aesthetically.
 

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
Member
Oct 24, 2017
34,373
Massive difference between pulling a 5 inch phone out and taking a full game console out. If you're with me, your ass is getting roasted for that one.
I assumed they meant when alone? But I think people fiddling with their phone when eating with others is rude too so what do I know
 

Jecht

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,650
I assumed they meant when alone? But I think people fiddling with their phone when eating with others is rude too so what do I know

Yeah well if you're alone it doesn't matter. No difference between that and pulling your laptop or tablet out. Which plenty of people do in restourants and cafes.

He had mentioned his friends in a follow up post though so I assumed they were in a group.
 

Rhaknar

Member
Oct 26, 2017
42,618
Forks on the left and knife on the right.

Who the fuck cares? I've done fork on the right my entire life, fight me.