He's not going to accept the results even when he wins because it won't be the landslide he believes he deserves.
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Will Trump accept the 2020 election results?
- Thread starter Nerdyone
- Start date
Zero chance the Republican party will accept any primary challengers.
I had a dream the other night that congress got rid of term limits to give Trump a third term, but instead Obama came back and ran against him and won.
The orange dipshit was mad when he first got into the white house because he thought he was being prevented from "enjoying" the privileges of being POTUS. Makes sense considering the first thing he did as President was have people investigate the "actual" attendance numbers of his inauguration.
Yup many people haven't been paying attention to how Trump stiff arms and jukes around any issue while his supporters cheer him on. 2020 is a touchdown. Its going to be the 2016 election all over again.
He lost the popular by a huge amount. He will only win if those same squeak-by areas carry him. That or an attack on US soil makes everyone terrified and paranoid enough to give up the rest of our freedom.
It's nice to be able to spout his nonsense without anything backing it up
Trump won due to several farces
You can only use those ... well, trump cards, once
There will still be Russian meddling, fake news in propaganda on Facebook etc, but nowhere near the level of 2016 since those companies have taken measures against that. Comey is not here to pull a surprise on his opponent a week before the election. They no longer have the ghost of Obama to campaign against and re-elections tend to always be narrower for the current president, when he already lost by 3 million in the popular vote in 2016. Almost every special election has gone the way of the Dems and the base is way more fired up and maybe even more united than it was in 2016.
Trump will need someone with as much baggage as Hillary and Comey-like miracles to pull it off in 2020.
The one thing we're not factoring is just how much damage and alienation he can do between now and then though I will say, like he said, he could shoot a baby on the street and they'd all still vote for him.
This doesn't matter. His fanatical supporters lashing out is much better because they are basically sticking their heads out. It won't end well for them.
I do not see how people in this thread are already convinced Trump will win the re-election when it's over two years away. Is it just a defense mechanism? Did everyone forget that most of us assumed Clinton would win? It's just pointless to make projections this early.
I never said I wasn't referring to Bernie. That doesn't make me the defender of all things Bernie though. It's possible that he could have been the Democratic candidate in 2016 and lost. So what? Are you really trying to chalk up the DNC's shenanigans to some Alex Jones tinfoil hat bullshit?
My whole point was that if the Democrats prop up another bad candidate they shouldn't be surprised if they lose again. Crazy!
Trump and the GOP has been working hard to discredit the Russia investigation. Daily, Fox news rabbles about when will the senseless Russia investigation come to an end. Throw in FBI agents that were texting about ensuring Trump doesn't win the presidency and the GPO will point to that as the intelligence community being biased against Trump. GPO is running a very good PR campaign to protect Trump.
I suppose, so much seems to bounce right off him though. Hard to believe anything will stick.
I'm pretty sure he won't accept the results even if he wins. If he nails down this court nominee I think he's a lock for 2020.
Explain the shenanigans and how they contribute to Bernie shooting himself in the foot multiple times dude lost fair and square. But you try to hit and run these threads with your bullshit conspiracies hoping nobody calls you out on it.
I don't know wtf you're talking about. I've replied to you every time so far. I'm not spouting any conspiracy theories. In fact, I straight up said Bernie could have lost the nomination completely on his own merits. And again: so what? That doesn't mean playing dirty is okay. I'm not going to conflate my argument with what you want my argument to be.
I'll be sure to get back to you after work with links from conspiracy theory websites to back up my points though!
I actually felt he was going to win in 2016, still hoped he wouldn't right up until Florida was called.
I'll be supporting whoever runs against him of course but no way am I setting my expectations up again.
You are making the same fatal assumption that others(myself included) did when he was running, which is that he isn't supported by that many people. He just needs enough people on his side. We know that extremists are changing the culture of the security apparatuses in the US. If enough of his supporters are in military and police. Who will stop them? He is shifting the norms around what is acceptable and once his supreme Court nominee is sworn in, there will be literally no branch of government that he cannot manipulate and use to accomplish his goals. The travel ban and all the civil rights being dismantled by his AG and federal funding being cut for groups fighting white identity extremists are proof. Not to mention a low energy, weak democratic party that is more concerned with centrism and civility than protecting the democracy. I'll happily accept being wrong, but from where I stand, the pieces are already in place and in motion. He's not going elsewhere unless he finds something better.
If he isn't re-elected, he'll burn society to the ground in the weeks preceding his exit. Count on it. Trump is the very definition of megalomaniac; he won't surrender power peacefully.
I think their reasoning is the following unless I'm terribly mistaken.
- People have jobs right now.
- Democrats are fighting each other, and Republicans are successfully egging them on, which looks bad.
- Americans who already held problematic viewpoints have become emboldened.
- People already know what Trump is. There are no secrets.
So unless:
- The Democrats have a hell of a candidate.
- Democrats turn out in record numbers.
- One of these terrible things Trump has done actually hurts him
I'm wondering this though as a practical matter. Beyond just cynicism and generalities, are the same states that decided 2016 a lock for him again?
Let's assume he's facing a democrat white guy without a lot of baggage.
I'll fly to D.C. to march if that bullshit happens.
If people were to even notice those 30 bucks, republican politicians would be campaigning on that tax cut they passed. The fact that they don't is indicative of the fact it didn't have the impact they were hoping for. (though at least it gave them a mulligan from their Sugar daddies on Wall Street)
2020 will mostly be a turnout election. Many non-Breitbart republicans were wary of Trump at first, but they eventually closed ranks around him because of Scalia's seat and Hillary being the devil. If democrats can manage to do the same even if their candidate isn't the second coming of Liberal Jesus, they should be able to deny him a second term.
Trump has a couple of issues going for him; the SCOTUS seats will be enough for quite a few conservatives to swallow their misgivings and vote R in order to get RBG's seat. Inter-party resistence to him, despite the fact a lot of non-tea party republicans secretly hate him and think he's an idiot, is practically non-existent now. There'll still be Russian meddling.
At the same time, Trump's no longer this blank slate people could project their own expectations on and he has a record that can be attacked. Because of his ignorance he won't be able to campaign on the issues, so he'll be limited to his typical nativist schtick.
And most of all, the feeling of inevitability won't be there in 2020. It's hard to overstate the impact of the general sentiment of an inevitable Clinton victory because Trump was so hilariously unfit nobody could imagine the US really electing him.
- Democratic voters considered Clinton a done deal, so lots of them either stayed home or voted Jill Stein so they could maintain what they saw as their personal purity, figuring that even without their votes, Clinton would coast to victory.
- The mainstream media considered Clinton a done deal, so they reserved 50% of their airtime to covering her emails, considering it a case of preemptively holding her future presidency accountable.
- Comey considered Clinton a done deal, so he sent that letter to congress in an attempt to preemptively nip a Clinton presidency scandal in the bud.
- Many in Clinton's campaign considered her a done deal, so they skipped some vital states.
None of those factors will be an issue in 2020 because Trump's the status quo now.