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Massive Brawl in Australia v Phillipines World Cup Qualifier Basketball Game (Read OP)

Froli

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Fucking PH always an embarrassment and disappointment.

If anything a lot of Pinoys are fucking racist incels and uneducated. Says a lot when they vote for a Monster like Duterte
 
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Subpar Scrub

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Chalfonts said:
Any team that was attcking players in warmups, calling 5hem monkeys and decked one of them would get the same well deserved treatment

The australian team should be banned for life
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Please provide your evidence that backs up these statements. Your integrity and trustworthiness are on the line, so make it a good post.
 
Skade

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From what i can see, it's a problem of over-reaction from both sides.

The elbowing guy in yellow seem to have thought his mate got an elbow to the face that threw him on the floor, so he over-reacted by doing the same thing to the little guy in blue. And then all the blues wanted to gang on him.


So... The guy in yellow did bad yes, but the blue guys went batshit crazy over it.

Sports... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Hamchan

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The one Australian overreacted with his elbow and should cop some heavy penalties too, yes.

Still quite a contrast to the majority of the Philippines team, including coaching and support staff, running off the bench to start some mob violence.
 

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Usman wrote about growing up in the 1990s and you'll note also wrote about how things have changed positively since then. The rest is irrelevant (or from 2006).

Yes Australians can be pretty racist in parts, aka Queensland. But If an Australian sportsman was doing it then it would make the front pages of every newspaper in a massive story. To suggest these guys were using the term monkey which is especially significant is just pretty much absurd.
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Lol, nice deflection. Racist stuff, blame Queensland. Good 'ol Cronulla QLD race riots amirite, moron.

Had a laugh about it with the Phillipino guy at work, then he showed me a video of a Phillipines politician being assassinated. Countries a bit fucked it seems.
 
GeoNeo

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I'm not white and I've lived in QLD for 20 years. Love the place and the people. But, it's always confusing to me seeing Australian's who don't live in QLD saying it's racist when I've seen more racist shit in Melb & Syd. Of course that is my own personal exp.
 
jsnepo

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I'm filipino, living in the Philippines. This is embarrassing. WTF Gilas?

Still a lot of us aren't like this. For some reason this kind of thing is being encouraged because of the current political climate we have. Same can be said with the racists and bigots in the USA because of Trump. But man, I know people who keeps defending the actions of the Philippine which is infuriating.


I hope these people get their act together and instead of warring with Australia, they should do it with China.

It's also funny that filipinos complain about racism when in fact up to now, filipinos are known racists. Tell me I'm wrong when we have terms such as bumbay, egoy, Chekwa, etc.
 

see5harp

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Watch that replay and tell me seriously that you believe that either of those elbows or forearms actually hit dude in the jaw. The first one almost hits him, he doesn't get the call and pinoy loses his cool. I will admit that there's no place with that type of foul in basketball but I don't even see an elbow or forearm land. It was immediately called a charge.
 
jsnepo

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Froli said:
I'm sorry but I'm only stating the truth. I'm From Philippines and know the majority of the Attitudes here.
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You don't know the majority because you don't know that many people though I know where you're coming from. I didn't vote for Duterte. Scumbag enabled the kind of attitude Gilas did and they're defenders too.

darkwing said:
lol a Philippine senator is defending the actions of the Philippine team
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It's either Gatchalian, Ejercito, Sotto, or Pacquiao.
 
Froli

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You know nothing jsnepo. Like I said A lot of pinoys are uneducated and racist (not knowing they are one). If you checked the dedicated thread on the old Forums, there is nothing there but fucking disappointments.
 
Resilient

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see5harp said:
Watch that replay and tell me seriously that you believe that either of those elbows or forearms actually hit dude in the jaw. The first one almost hits him, he doesn't get the call and pinoy loses his cool. I will admit that there's no place with that type of foul in basketball but I don't even see an elbow or forearm land. It was immediately called a charge.
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You throw 2 cheap elbows like that in play and try to knee a man in the balls, you better believe you're going to get checked fast. PH started it, then took it to 11. The video is right there. You can watch it. Take your goggles off though. Only guys who can't back it up with basketball skills start playing like that.
 
petran79

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I remember a match against Greece few years ago. One Philipino player punched a Greek player stealthily on his testicles
 
Djkhaled

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SonicX_Zero said:
Welp that was pathetic and disgusting, I'm all for banning our country from FIBA, unexcusable and I dont know what the hell were those players thinking. I'm so sorry and embarrased to Aussie era for such a display. :(
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The fuck? The Phillipino team started it. Australia acted badly but they didn't have a 6 on 1 gang bashing someone and then taking selfies.

Not only that but the Phillipino coach telling them to knock the Aussies on their asses.
 
SK4TE

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Don't take it from me, This is from the New York Times. This tradition of racism is a matter of routine in Australia.





https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/26/opinion/the-dark-side-of-australias-national-sport.html





I would not be surprised if they were racist towards the Filipinos. Not when its the Australians. If the Filipinos said this is the case, they are almost certainly telling the truth. Australian athletes have a rep for being deeply ugly, vile people.
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How about when you mix Australian sport with Australians biggest airline.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-08-28/qantas-under-fire-over-blackface-stunt/2859228
 
Nimurai

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This is 90% phillipines players fault. Thon was just trying to defend his teammates. Should be an ban on all Phillipino basketball for at least 10 yrs imo. This is 100 times worse than the Ron Artest thing. Assholes thinking they are Manny Pacquiao.

*Edited to clarify i was talking about the players here, not the country.
 
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Finale Fireworker

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Don't make antagonistic and inflammatory generalizations about entire countries, regardless of whether you live there or not. Do not make unsourced claims surrounding this event or its participants.
 
GestaltGaz

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Ok let's set this straight.

The Filipino player first fouled the Australian player. This same Filipino player then proceeds to foul another Australian player to the floor.

Australian player Kickert completely overreacts and elbows offending Filipino player. With me so far?

Then entire Filipino team, bench and support staff attack Australian players at will. Some surrounding one player on the ground and beat him with punches and stomps. Australian bench does not get involved and tries to defend themselves.

This is what we know. Now some posters are bringing up alleged racist slurs toward the Filipino team. Where is the evidence of this? Filipino staff hearsay trying to justify their team? Some here think the proof is that Australian sportspeople in general are racist. Posting random articles about random sports from random times is cherry picking and has nothing to do with this thread.

I can find articles about racist sportspeople from any country if I looked for them. This helps nothing, and is offensive, trying to box in Australian players as racist outliers.

The one Australian player Kickert should face a ban for his actions but so should the entire Filipino team and their involved support staff.
 
SonicX_Zero

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Djkhaled said:
The fuck? The Phillipino team started it. Australia acted badly but they didn't have a 6 on 1 gang bashing someone and then taking selfies.

Not only that but the Phillipino coach telling them to knock the Aussies on their asses.
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Do you just stop reply immediately without reading of the further replies in the topic? I already addressed that a few posts after that.

SonicX_Zero said:
Its not a matter of who started it but players just cant start punching people if the other team is playing rough, basketball is a contact sport and that is part of the game. Also fans and staff have no business getting in there throwing chairs or bottles or punching the Australian players.
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Sowrong

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see5harp said:
Watch that replay and tell me seriously that you believe that either of those elbows or forearms actually hit dude in the jaw. The first one almost hits him, he doesn't get the call and pinoy loses his cool. I will admit that there's no place with that type of foul in basketball but I don't even see an elbow or forearm land. It was immediately called a charge.
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Who cares if it doesn't land. Intent is all that matters. It's like throwing a punch and missing, reaction is going to be the same .
 
GSG

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Saw this yesterday, clearly looks like the Philippines player started the entire altercation during the play, though that flying elbow retaliation by the Aussie was a catalyst for the brawl(which was also started by the Philippines since they cleared the bench).
 
rAndom

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Australia was already starting the fight even before the game began.

 

see5harp

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Who cares if it doesn't land. Intent is all that matters. It's like throwing a punch and missing, reaction is going to be the same .
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Well yea dude should have been and probably would have been ejected for that. The shove had bad intentions. There's a big difference between creating contact with another dude's chest and getting a forearm to the face by a dude not even in the play.
 
Soupman Prime

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I don't know why but I'm most angry at the dude who slowly picked up the chair then tossed it on a player when he wasn't looking. He didn't look like a player so not sure what kind of punishment he could receive.
 
Sowrong

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see5harp said:
Well yea dude should have been and probably would have been ejected for that. The shove had bad intentions. There's a big difference between creating contact with another dude's chest and getting a forearm to the face by a dude not even in the play.
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Both were forearms to the face with the ball nowhere around. There's no difference.
 
Dark Ninja

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That Phillipines bench looked ecstatic that something happened and they got a "free pass" to rush the court and that Australian dude just tiger kneeing everyone lol
 
Gundam

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Filipino dude fucked up and so did their team after it escalated but lmao at the amount of people in this thread not wanting to call out that fucking full-on charge by the Aussie dude. Filipino player was a piece of shit but you're kidding yourself if you dont think that elbow single handedly escalated it, no matter how deserved you perceive it to be. Both fucked up and both should receive bans.
 

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boredandlazy said:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/basket...s/news-story/95727f0e3ad79ed12eb4586507393e0a

So, even the claim from the Phillipines coach that Kickert was pushing them around unprovoked in the warm-up was a pile of shit.
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I wouldn't go quite that far. While that shows a trip and a retaliatory push, it's a very small segment and doesn't include or debunk the reported 3 previous incidents.

I'm hesitant to believe the news source linked on this as it also claims Goulding was "elbowed to the face and shoulder charged in the midsection," neither of which is accurate.

On the other side of the coin, there's the Filipino ESPN video that looks to show the same trip and shove clip but from an angle where the trip is very hard to discern, so that also appears to be an inaccurate source.

It appears that neither countries media has an interest in being completely forthright with details preferring instead to only address certain aspects.

As far as I'm concerned ban them both from international play. The violence is unacceptable as is the trash talk... Especially trash talk throughout the game and even when up 30 in the 3rd. Ban them both to send a message about all the terrible behavior wrapped up in this and ban the refs as well for being completely unable to control the court.
 
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