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Jpop

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,655
ERA,

Let me tell you a story. I grew up spent my elementary school years to high-school in Texas, Houston and near Galveston. Like most children growing up I could not really understand racism, bigotry ect... It was in my later years of high-school looking back at my life did a larger awareness for the world we live in, begin to sprout in me.

I looked at the Major events in my life up to that point; my parents divorce, moving from Colorado to texas, living with my grandparents. One event though defined who I was, my moral stand points in life. It was 9/11.

I was in second grade when it happened, I still remember it like yesterday. My mother, like all mother, came and picked me up from school. It wasn't until the next week that things started to change, my name was changed to Josh, I didn't understand at the time.

AS I looked back through the years, I began to notice social interactions that I did not understand. My grandmother once told me, "I love you, you are one of the good ones. Even if you don't look like me." As a child I thought that was an innocent statement. In my later years, I realized it was a form of oppression and racism. I realized that my name was changed because it wasn't a white name.

In high-school when people called me a sand nigger, is when I truly started to understand. That was what I was a detestable existence.

From then on in my life my goal became to escape my upbringing and start anew. I had my chance with college, I changed my name back to my given name in Arabic. I reclaimed my identity and dignity as a person that had been stripped away from me as a child.

One summer I visited home, and was watching the olympics with my Uncle, and a comment that should not shock me but did was said, "Look at those monkey's running.". It was a race with black people in it. I was timid at the time in my views and my voice, but I called out my uncle, and I asked, " What do you think I am then, a Terrorist?" He said, "No, you are one of the good ones."

It has been 6 years since that day, and I have not spoken a word to my family. I gave an ultimatum change your ways or I am gone. I have stayed gone, they've attempted to reconnect over the years. I remember during the election, I was curious at how they voted and browsed through Facebook. Clearly I did not make a mistake, they will not change their ways.

To this day, I am grateful to my experiences in life It has shaped who I am as a person, and I believe made me a better one for it. Though sacrifices were made.

The moral of the story is that if family losing a loved one over their horrible views and morals will not change them then their is no need for tolerating hate, to be nice to the other side.

I lost my family over race, but at least I had a choice the children Trump has thrown in cages have not.

Fuck your civility.
 
Oct 27, 2017
39,148
I never understand what the hell people who say this line think while saying it. What the hell do they think they are doing?

Pisses me off greatly.
 

hateradio

Member
Oct 28, 2017
8,760
welcome, nowhere
It's fucked up what you hear behind closed doors from whites or self-identifying rednecks or even other in-groups that have nothing immediate to gain from racism, except that the world has told them that it's us versus them. For them, everything works like that.

Even if their friend is (half) black, gay, a woman, whatever, they'll be totally garbage to them, and write it off as a joke. Don't take it personal. You're one of the good ones. It's like it doesn't matter how much progress you feel in your own life, some people never grow out of their high school mental state with their shitty ideology.


I never understand what the hell people who say this line think while saying it. What the hell do they think they are doing?

Pisses me off greatly.
They are clearly bigoted and absolutely acknowledge it, but they like you as an actual person. Sometimes.
 

darz1

Member
Dec 18, 2017
7,101
I never understand what the hell people who say this line think while saying it. What the hell do they think they are doing?

Pisses me off greatly.
They are thinking that their approval is of a higher importance than your identity. They think that you should be greatful that they accept you, despite your difference from themselves. They think that you should share in with their bigotry and feel the same way as they do about "others" and just be glad you are not like "the rest". And most of all they feel they they themselves are superior to you by virtue of their race.
 
Oct 27, 2017
39,148
Yeah sports for instance. Not sure if you would rate parachute activities under sport as well but those are in there. You can do various side missions that include taking random strangers up to the mountain. There's the side mission where you have to round up immigrants I believe for this woman living in a trailer. You can do the flying smuggling sidemissions. You can dive underwater and interact with a very fleshed out underwater enviroment.

There is a lot of cool stuff in GTA V.

In GTAIV you are forced to go bowling with Michelle to continue the story, a terrible mission. You are constantly berated by friends asking if you want to hang out with them.

If I remember you did have Taxi missions, cop missions as well which is cool and surely needed in GTA V. I will agree on those type of missions that are missing.

But in GTA IV there is not much else to do either. You have bowling, darts, pool(?). Been awhile since I finished it but I remember the addons ( and especially the ballad of gay tony ) to be a lot better than the base game.

It's fucked up what you hear behind closed doors from whites or self-identifying rednecks or even other in-groups that have nothing immediate to gain from racism, except that the world has told them that it's us versus them. For them, everything works like that.

Even if their friend is (half) black, gay, a woman, whatever, they'll be totally garbage to them, and write it off as a joke. Don't take it personal. You're one of the good ones. It's like it doesn't matter how much progress you feel in your own life, some people never grow out of their high school mental state with their shitty ideology.



They are clearly bigoted and absolutely acknowledge it, but they like you as an actual person. Sometimes.

My guess would be nothing. That's half the problem on it's own...

They are thinking that their approval is of a higher importance than your identity. They think that you should be greatful that they accept you, despite your difference from themselves. They think that you should share in with their bigotry and feel the same way as they do about "others" and just be glad you are not like "the rest". And most of all they feel they they themselves are superior to you by virtue of their race.
Yeah I guess.

Would be much better if they never say anything tbh. I don't need the need for them to appeal to me or anything from them.

Just talking with someone thinking they are nice only for them to pull this shit makes me really lose all the respect for them ASAP.
 

Jombie

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,392
My dad only liked black people if they were scoring touchdowns or good for a laugh. My brother-in-law once got angry that a black girl showed up at his kids' birthday party.

I've been around it all my life. Most racists in the south keep it close to the vest, they'll act decent enough until your back is turned. There's a ton of resentment for black people that stems from the civil rights era and the stupid fallacy that 'the blacks get all the breaks.' They bemone poor black people for being on assistance, while I see mostly white trash using food stamps and then putting groceries in their SUVs or seperating from their spouses to get govt assistance. But yeah, those black people just need to get a job!

Living in Alabama, I've seen and heard things you wouldn't believe.
 

Crossing Eden

Member
Oct 26, 2017
53,406
They are thinking that their approval is of a higher importance than your identity. They think that you should be greatful that they accept you, despite your difference from themselves. They think that you should share in with their bigotry and feel the same way as they do about "others" and just be glad you are not like "the rest". And most of all they feel they they themselves are superior to you by virtue of their race.
^

Growing up in a predominantly white neighborhood, High school was rife with this nonsense.
 

Deleted member 8118

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 26, 2017
3,639
My close friend's mom said that to me when I was in high-school. I was over their house watching TV and she saw the news of violence going on in the city. I'm black, by the way.

She said something before and ended it with "Don't worry, you're one of good ones.", as if I'm supposed to be grateful for her "acceptance". I knew what she meant and I just rolled my eyes.

Funny, she got a divorce because she had been cheating on her husband (a kind of decent, but naĂŻve guy) and took triple digits from him in the end. She used to take my friend and I on trips all over the state and would give us alcohol and money, so I was like fuck it lol

Turns out she's fuckin' some black dude that claims he has tons of money from playing in an old and washed up band.

Don't know if she has changed, but I highly doubt it.

White women are some other shit, seriously.
 

TheKeipatzy

Member
Oct 30, 2017
2,736
California for now
This oddly reminded me of something that will forever stay in my memory: 6 year old me with my grandmother in Texas. Grandfather was playing with my younger brother, but I remember the next words said to me as they had happened hours ago:

"Don't ever forget you are different. You come from a proud family... and while you are half 'spic or whatever, the rest of you is still family!"

I would later tell my mother (my Mexican mixed side) about that. She said nothing until we were driving back. She explained a bit about what that meant, but years later, I found out the true nature of the slur.

She died and I shed no tears, though my grandfather I did because he never treated me badly. My bio-father, despite all his former Confederate/Texas pride I initially remembered him for, changed later in life. But the one that really hurts is my own mother, again who is MEXICAN, says the people in power "know the best plan for us... And better than OBAMA!" She now spends days chatting on alt-right chats and Trump YouTube channels...

I frequently tell her. "You are 'one of the good ones' until you are not. They will never see you as equal"
 
Oct 27, 2017
2,902
Scotland
Yeah, I never understood the racism Arabs (in my social circle growing up) threw at black people (and Indians too) given that Arabs were/areare a at the receiving end of racism too. You'd think a little solidarity and empathy would come into play but nope. They'd be like "yeah well, we may get it bad but at least we ain't them amirite??" coupled with the whole "You're one of the good ones" statements. Absolutely disgusting. Thankfully, I have managed to distance myself from them. I'm sorry to hear about your experience growing up OP but I gathered that you have managed to proudly reclaim your identity and be absolutely fine with who you really are so I greatly applaud for that. There are some people (including mixed ethnicity/identity) who still struggle with their identity all through their lives.
 
Feb 6, 2018
794
That's a helluva thing to have to go through man. Bigotry is awful no matter the circumstance, but all the more tragic when people can't change their ways for family.
 

Vibed

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
1,506
I never could notice much racism growing up, maybe both to my benefit and loss. I grew up in a nearly all white area, so maybe it was easier to see how the few minority kids I knew could be other-ed in subtle ways. I'm half hispanic, but definitely pass for white, but I had a friend who, on top of being an eccentric, apparently had to deal with a bullying due to his obviously Mexican looks and name. I think some of this racism could even come from family, and when asked about it with regards to me, I'm pretty sure a couple answers along the lines of "one of the good ones" came up,

Funny though, I also spent half my youth growing up in Houston too, so I was around a more diverse community down there. I guess I'm thankful I have a harder time remembering those kind of hateful sentiments there. Good on you for reclaiming your roots.
 
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Jpop

Jpop

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,655
Yeah, I never understood the racism Arabs (in my social circle growing up) threw at black people (and Indians too) given that Arabs were/areare a at the receiving end of racism too. You'd think a little solidarity and empathy would come into play but nope. They'd be like "yeah well, we may get it bad but at least we ain't them amirite??" coupled with the whole "You're one of the good ones" statements. Absolutely disgusting. Thankfully, I have managed to distance myself from them. I'm sorry to hear about your experience growing up OP but I gathered that you have managed to proudly reclaim your identity and be absolutely fine with who you really are so I greatly applaud for that. There are some people (including mixed ethnicity/identity) who still struggle with their identity all through their lives.

I tend to notice this alot among minorities. I feel that it is an issue brought about on how they are treated and it just filters through to another minority group.

I.E. white people treat minorite A/B/C as shit minority A takes it out on minority B/C ect...

It is sad, but I think it is not super prevalent. I met quite a few Arabs in college from overseas and they were all pretty well adjusted people.
 

DigitalOp

Member
Nov 16, 2017
9,292
Thanks OP

I don't parlay with people who look down on others for skin color and different cultures.

It's drives some posters on this board crazy, they get so pissy about people not willing to sit at the table with shitbirds.

Life is too short.
 

litebrite

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
21,832
Yeah, I never understood the racism Arabs (in my social circle growing up) threw at black people (and Indians too) given that Arabs were/areare a at the receiving end of racism too. You'd think a little solidarity and empathy would come into play but nope. They'd be like "yeah well, we may get it bad but at least we ain't them amirite??" coupled with the whole "You're one of the good ones" statements. Absolutely disgusting. Thankfully, I have managed to distance myself from them. I'm sorry to hear about your experience growing up OP but I gathered that you have managed to proudly reclaim your identity and be absolutely fine with who you really are so I greatly applaud for that. There are some people (including mixed ethnicity/identity) who still struggle with their identity all through their lives.
Anti Blackness is it's own thing that's an issue among many races/ethnicities.
 

PancakeFlip

Member
Oct 26, 2017
7,925
What does the family do when you tell them to change their ways? Get an attitude and double down? Is their any ounce of self-reflection?
 

Goldenroad

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Nov 2, 2017
9,475
Anyone who would refer to another person as "one of the good ones", is themselves one of the bad ones, and not to be trusted as any kind of judge of character.
 

fade

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
3,516
If its not too personal what was your family makeup? Was your dad arab or were you adopted? Is your dad in your life at all? Just curious.
 

Admiral Woofington

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
14,892
I'm a fairly white looking Latino, but still distinguishable enough with hispanic features, and one coworker once told me "you're one of the good ones" but I think he meant it as a "one of the good young engineers in here" but realized his mistake for the wording. I didn't give him shit though. We didn't see much discrimination in Texas, but we still saw it full force twice.
 

PSqueak

Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,464
I never understand what the hell people who say this line think while saying it. What the hell do they think they are doing?

Pisses me off greatly.

When you're a racist that thinks you're better than other races, they think they will take it as a compliment, because they're being genuine "i think you're a good person, despite the fact that i think everybody else like you is shit", they are completely blind to how offensive this is to others because this is as nice as their fucking dipshit bigot brains can get, they don't understand they're in fact not being nice.
 

saenima

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
11,892
Yeah that's fucked up. Thanks for sharing, you've shown more courage and dignity in dealing with your family than most. Maybe one day they will change, but if they don't it's their loss.
 

BlackGoku03

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,275
I feel you OP. You're brave.

I'm black and was born and raised in Europe till I graduated high school. I move back to the States and black people call me white or foreign, and white people call me white.

I have no accent. At all. Nobody can tell where I'm from but they know for sure I don't sound "black". Now that I live in fucking South Carolina, I hear "you're one of the good ones" or "you'll be fine at this bar, your a straight laced guy" which is code for the first phrase.

I hate it and I cringe every time someone says that.