Even if the prof docks your grade you will be fine. There will be many other things to worry about.
No worries OP
No worries OP
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I messed up big time
- Thread starter Milennia
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My thoughts:
1. Let's not be overly dramatic, while it's good practice to not eat and drink in a lab, in a practical sense the actual risk is still almost nothing.
2. GPA matters less than you think, which leads to my next point:
3. Just get some sleep OP. You seem high-strung over something that'll 99.9% likely end up being a total non-issue.
4. It's interesting that it's apparantly hard to be a nurse in America, because over here they can't find people willing to do this job.
1. Let's not be overly dramatic, while it's good practice to not eat and drink in a lab, in a practical sense the actual risk is still almost nothing.
2. GPA matters less than you think, which leads to my next point:
3. Just get some sleep OP. You seem high-strung over something that'll 99.9% likely end up being a total non-issue.
4. It's interesting that it's apparantly hard to be a nurse in America, because over here they can't find people willing to do this job.
OP
OP
So an update, first of all thank you guys for the support it got me through this
I take my schooling really seriously because I simply have nothing else going on in my life otherwise, this is basically all I do and really would like to achieve my ultimate goal of becoming a nurse practitioner, I plan to get my RN and work while going for my BSN and eventually NP
My professor gave me an 89/100 which gets rounded to an A- and I assume she docked about 5 or so points for the incident, an A- in this class is the same as an A because I cannot achieve a 3.9 even if I got As for the next 5 years due to a bad first semester (never went to high school due to horrible clinical depression, barely graduated 8th grade because I didn't go to school) but have gotten my act together, things were hard for me back then due to the fact I never had stepped foot in a high school so I'm proud of myself for that and feel I owe myself the grades I have.
I have one exam left and getting an A- on this after everything essentially means with normal studying I can get an A on the final with ease and obvious idly no docked points
I wa son the wrong int his situation but so was my professor who quite literally rolled her eyes at me when I asked her a question during this exam amongst other unprofessional gestures despite having a great relationship prior to that day.
Even today she had answered a question of mine after class so I enthusiastically that I needed her to repeat it to even hear what she had said, despite everyone else getting normal treatment prior to my asking her.
I will contact the dean about this after the semester is over despite getting my good grade, I feel this person should not hold a grudge on me for breaking this specific rule or any rule at all and I should get equal treatment
If my relationship prior to this day wasn't perfect with her I would have thought I was being targeted for some reason but I don't believe that's the case.
I am white and Jewish and haven't really felt this way about anything before this incident. I was actually sick to my stomach and afraid to contact anyone around her department because of how well connected she seems and didn't want to escalate it.
Never have I had a professor quite literally turn like that on me so much so they had a look and act of disgust, she didn't even acknowledge the lengthy apology email I had sent her or my presence in the following days class really. She just kept looking at her other "favorite student" and it almost looked as though she was lecturing a single person the entire time.
I take my schooling really seriously because I simply have nothing else going on in my life otherwise, this is basically all I do and really would like to achieve my ultimate goal of becoming a nurse practitioner, I plan to get my RN and work while going for my BSN and eventually NP
My professor gave me an 89/100 which gets rounded to an A- and I assume she docked about 5 or so points for the incident, an A- in this class is the same as an A because I cannot achieve a 3.9 even if I got As for the next 5 years due to a bad first semester (never went to high school due to horrible clinical depression, barely graduated 8th grade because I didn't go to school) but have gotten my act together, things were hard for me back then due to the fact I never had stepped foot in a high school so I'm proud of myself for that and feel I owe myself the grades I have.
I have one exam left and getting an A- on this after everything essentially means with normal studying I can get an A on the final with ease and obvious idly no docked points
I wa son the wrong int his situation but so was my professor who quite literally rolled her eyes at me when I asked her a question during this exam amongst other unprofessional gestures despite having a great relationship prior to that day.
Even today she had answered a question of mine after class so I enthusiastically that I needed her to repeat it to even hear what she had said, despite everyone else getting normal treatment prior to my asking her.
I will contact the dean about this after the semester is over despite getting my good grade, I feel this person should not hold a grudge on me for breaking this specific rule or any rule at all and I should get equal treatment
If my relationship prior to this day wasn't perfect with her I would have thought I was being targeted for some reason but I don't believe that's the case.
I am white and Jewish and haven't really felt this way about anything before this incident. I was actually sick to my stomach and afraid to contact anyone around her department because of how well connected she seems and didn't want to escalate it.
Never have I had a professor quite literally turn like that on me so much so they had a look and act of disgust, she didn't even acknowledge the lengthy apology email I had sent her or my presence in the following days class really. She just kept looking at her other "favorite student" and it almost looked as though she was lecturing a single person the entire time.
OP, while I'm happy that your situation worked itself (mostly), all I can respond with is -
Stop being so dang hard on yourself! You're obviously smart enough to have gotten this far, don't let the pressures of school make you into a nervous wreck. Have some confidence in yourself and do your best, we're rooting for you :)
OP
OP
Thank you! I'm honestly trying to learn (even after 2 and a half years) how to relax a bit more in these situations.
Honestly I am normally very calm and confident with exams, I am generally a good test taker.
This situation was just so out of the norm for me in so many ways that it brought me back to middle school when I used to do stupid shit for attention and get yelled at by teachers. My mind simply had no idea how to deal with this and I meant no harm by any action, I was really regretting my actions immediately and I thought she would at least pick up on that.
But as I had mentioned this professor is really IMPOSSIBLE to read from an emotions standpoint, which is why I thought this 89 was going to be a 70, the situation that went on that day was way worse than a 6 or so point deduction.
This had happened BEFORE the exam as well, which affected my mental state drastically whilst taking the exam itself, which is why I thought I had done poorly to begin with when in reality it was an A.
I generally have a problem when it comes to overanalyzing things, something i'm working on, it's from my old WoW world first race days and it's been my hardest lingering issue to snuff out.
You got off easy. Unless there's a good chance you might have this professor again, just let it go.
OP
OP
I'm transferring in the fall semester, that's why i'm going to contact the main dean about this after the summer semester ends
There is no version of this where the professor is in the wrong enough for you to win out in any fashion whatsoever
You screwed up, she hip checked you, and you are overreacting even though the docking of points she did wasn't even enough to throw off your grade whatsoever, which I can almost assuredly guarantee she thought of
OP, simply let it go. Your race has nothing to do with this - your attitude may have offended the professor, but the class is over, simply let the matter drop and move on.
She could have failed you, and she didn't.
Try to rescue some things from the experience:
1) Don't go to an exam without sleeping. Make your schedule so you don't study in marathonic sessions and always make sure you sleep. If you can't handle this now, you'll be in problems later.
2) Eat well and hydrate yourself before an exam.
3) Follow instructions that are on the class program, even if you find them silly
4) Never treat your professor as a friend or someone close unless you are given explicit authorization. You won't have problems, and there is a different dynamic since the professor is in a position of authority and may feel slighter if you simply ignore it.
Now simply breath, and to be honest, I'd try looking for some help to manage your anxierty. As other posters have said, there are alternatives to get into nursing school - may not be the shortest in terms of time, but there are. Pushing yourself like that is not healthy at all.
About what? She docked you five points for violating safety in the lab. Consider it a lesson not to do that when you are a nurse. Safety is not a joke
OP
OP
I have had over 30 professors in my current school who from my experience have never gone so far as to roll their eyes at a question asked or had such blatant unwarranted disgust as this professor did in the last two days towards me, she even stopped responding to emails after this happened.
I made a mistake misjudging the relationship, but that does not warrant this type of bullshit and the advisor i spoke to on the matter agreed.
I have seen professors who absolutely hate people in my classes that still entertained those people as they would anyone else. This is clearly unprofessional.
She actually is refusing to answer my questions I have on the subject matter in emails despite responding as if they were skype messages the day before this incident. She is responding to my questions in class with disdain and not with full breath and responsiveness, I had to come home and look up every question I had asked her in class today.
Is this like the first time someone with authority has bopped you or something
There's zero benefit to trying to up the ante on this because you're not gonna win
You're going to be fighting a battle you won't win. Also this should be a lesson in how to shrug something off and let it go, because this isn't going to be the last time you encounter a teacher/professor/boss/coworker who doesn't treat you respectfully.
How many emails did you send? and how many did it take before she stopped responding?
Keep in mind that actions are interpreted from your own perspective and you were wilding out about the situation. Was she actually acting weird or were you interpreting?
OP
OP
I'm not interested in going super far with it, i'm just going to inform the dean of the situation as I would have if it was mid semester, what he does is up to him but I wont take it further than that. If I was treated normally today, the day following the incident, I would have dropped it cold after getting that grade.
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OP
I didn't really word that properly but I meant I obviously dont get racially profiled often so that was ruled out, It is for certain because she thought I was mocking her and I understand how it could look that way.
I would tell her that if she would have a dialogue with me about it but since she wont I have to leave it as is. The problem is that iv'e noticed she grades things a little on the odd side. She may have input the 89 but will factor in a percentage into the overall final a deduction, and I cant really even ask her about it.
For the rest as I mentioned in a previous post, i'm a really good test taker but this is a summer 7 week course that fits 4 major exams that are normally stretched over the course of 4 months or so into that time frame and they are each worth about 25% of the grade.
I have been told this specific course is the hardest summer course available at the school, I have studied about 7 hours per day for this one course.
I appreciate your advice, I for sure have a problem with studying STRAIGHT for 7 hours, i'm trying to figure out how to fix this into a schedule.
Honestly I think you are overreacting.
The result is of no harsh consequence to you, and you admit yourself that the points docked do not impact your grade overall.
You should think twice about raising a stink with the Dean imo, with the possibility that after raising the problem with the teacher involved and re-evaluating the situation they actually decide to teach you a lesson and deck your grade even more.
As was already said, let it go.
The result is of no harsh consequence to you, and you admit yourself that the points docked do not impact your grade overall.
You should think twice about raising a stink with the Dean imo, with the possibility that after raising the problem with the teacher involved and re-evaluating the situation they actually decide to teach you a lesson and deck your grade even more.
As was already said, let it go.
You weren't kidding when you said you have nothing else going on in your life. Just drop it and move on. Holyshit man.
OP
OP
It's hard to drop something cold when i'm experiencing it each day following the incident.
I will give it time to see if it gets better before doing anything which is exactly why I stated I will wait until the semester is over.
If things go back to normal and she actually answers questions etc. like a normal ass professor I will drop it.
I as a human being do not appreciate being eyerolled when asking a professional a question, especially days FOLLOWING the day in question.
OP
OP
If she's acting this way a day later why would I assume it will just stop 2 days later? why is she acting this way at all?
Because you sent her multiple emails in the course of one day based on your description as well as talked to her and a school counselor in the course of a day.
I'm going to assume you were acting a little dramatic about based on the over dramatization here.
Just relax and let her stop reliving the incident and she'll get over it. Harping on things just pisses people off. Give it some time.
Why are you acting this way?
This whole situation is nothing. You broke the rule and got spanked. Get over it. You're going to have to deal with a lot worse than that if you keep going through nursing school.
Even in engineering I had a professor who always seemed confrontational with me and I was the one student he gave a big hug to on stage during graduation.
Please OP, make sure to get more regular sleep from now on. Especially since you have a history of clinical depression, that can seriously mess you up. School isn't worth destroying your well-being for.
OP
OP
I sent her two emails, one being a detailed apology and the other being a question which she has answered within 10 minutes every time for the last 5 weeks.
I'm in the process of calming down and am willing to give her time to calm down as well, (I still dont understand why she needs to calm down from anything or why this is happening the way it is) I'm on break for 4th of July so i'll update everyone on how thursday goes in terms of any bullshit
Just as a general for the record, I acted like nothing happened today, like any normal day of class and will do so from now on, so any update is unprovoked entirely.
Because she's another human being. She may have regrets about how things went down. She may not like being reminded of it or have a hundred other things going on that you couldn't possibly be aware of. Who knows? You are saying that you plan to move on which is the right thing to do. It sucks, but separating yourself from the issue and laying low while remaining professional is the best move here.
I can't disagree with this enough. Almost anything post college these days is going to require an immaculate gpa, test scores, and letters of recommendation (at least any program worth getting into).
OP: LET. IT. GO!!!!
you got off with slap on the wrist,(if we can even call it that) just focus on finishing whatever you have left and transfer, you seem to be taken everything she does as slight when again she only docked 5 points when she clearly could've escalated it to the fears you had in your opening post.
DROP IT!
you got off with slap on the wrist,(if we can even call it that) just focus on finishing whatever you have left and transfer, you seem to be taken everything she does as slight when again she only docked 5 points when she clearly could've escalated it to the fears you had in your opening post.
DROP IT!
To whom it may concern;
Please allow STUDENT access to water, due to heat exhaustion he\she is required to keep hydrated thoughout the day.
Its quite a racket here in Canada, some places would require a doctors note for say exceeding your work sick days etc... I don't think many would object to giving you a note for saying you were suffering from heat exhaustion and needed water in class.
That won't let him drink in a lab. They'll just say go in the hallway. He needs something more extreme
As others have said, you broke protocol, rules of this nature aren't there to be tested. As they say, there is a time and place. In a lab setting, it's time to be serious and professional, not a time to laugh off the rules, even as seemingly benign as you did. Your professor has a classroom to run, and that would not set a good precedent if she laughed off your attempt to point fun at the rules when she is trying to maintain a very serious setting where people's health and safety can be involved. She is trying to mold you and your classmates for the future. Learn from your mistake and be thankful it didn't cost you more.
I feel for you too, you seem like a hard working person and I'm sure you will excel in life. But sometimes you should just let things go, you don't always have to feel like you "won" an argument, especially when you were in the wrong yourself.
I feel for you too, you seem like a hard working person and I'm sure you will excel in life. But sometimes you should just let things go, you don't always have to feel like you "won" an argument, especially when you were in the wrong yourself.
Drink your water in the hallway and not the lab. Safety rules exist for a reason, and your relationship with someone should never have control over how theyre enforced.
Own up to your mistake, take the slap on the wrist, and drop this.
Own up to your mistake, take the slap on the wrist, and drop this.
OP
OP
Thanks for putting this in a way that isn't just the drive by "get over it".
I'm going to move passed it assuming the whole attitude deal doesn't affect her answering any questions I may have moving further.
I'm hoping that after the grade submit she will move passed it.
No problem, my friend. I wish you the best and I hope you achieve your goals. Just remember, when all possible, reward yourself for your hard work. Counter some of that stress you are under.
You're putting way too much stock into trying 'read' a professor. You're not Professor X, you can't tell what she's thinking through subtle physical queues in class. You also aren't friends, you have a mentor/mentee relationship. Do not expect a lengthy emotional explanation of how she was feeling the day of the incident or in subsequent classes. Bring up appropriate, class-related questions during class and during appropriate office hours.
It seems like you're doing exceptionally well in the class with or without your professor's approval, just focus on your work the rest of the class time.
If you must clarify anything, it should be the exact point amount deducted for the safety violation. If the test is objective (fill in the blank or multiple choice), this should be easy to ascertain. If the test is subjective, she should have put it in writing.
It seems like you're doing exceptionally well in the class with or without your professor's approval, just focus on your work the rest of the class time.
If you must clarify anything, it should be the exact point amount deducted for the safety violation. If the test is objective (fill in the blank or multiple choice), this should be easy to ascertain. If the test is subjective, she should have put it in writing.
Guessing you're unwilling to accept anything but a Top 20 university.
OP, let me tell you a simple yet important rule of professional life: Don't Get Too Comfortable
What that means is that you may become friends with your boss, but don't EVER forget that he/she is your boss. Don't think that because they're your friend that it's ok to act up in front of others. That it's ok to break the rules because they're your friend. Your boss-friend is going to respect you more if you're still the employee who comes in and kicks ass. Friendship is not a pass to goof off at work.
Don't get too comfortable.
What that means is that you may become friends with your boss, but don't EVER forget that he/she is your boss. Don't think that because they're your friend that it's ok to act up in front of others. That it's ok to break the rules because they're your friend. Your boss-friend is going to respect you more if you're still the employee who comes in and kicks ass. Friendship is not a pass to goof off at work.
Don't get too comfortable.
Hurting someone's grade, not because of how well they did or didn't do on the actual test, but because they took a sip of water (especially as hot as it is) is absurd imo.
I would definitely go to the dean and simply explain it, explain that you thought you were close enough with the teacher that she would take it as a joke and that you're sorry that you broke the rule and did not expect the consequences. Explain that you need the grade you "would" have gotten if it weren't for that deduction.
I would definitely go to the dean and simply explain it, explain that you thought you were close enough with the teacher that she would take it as a joke and that you're sorry that you broke the rule and did not expect the consequences. Explain that you need the grade you "would" have gotten if it weren't for that deduction.
OP
OP
I mentioned I have been overanalyzing some aspects of things since returning to school for various reasons, but I feel like eyerolling a question based on the material is pretty shitty and doesnt require much professor X investigating to decipher. I usually focus on my work exclusively and have good passing relationships with my professors (I was even invited to join my sociology professors football league). Realistically I saw from day one this lady was stonecold emotions wise and I for some reason chose to look passed that and I shouldnt have
Thats my biggest takeaway from this, lean off the professor relationships for sure.