‘Be kind to everyone’: Ellen DeGeneres defends hanging out with George Bush

Sage Anahata

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Oct 6, 2019
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This is your first post to the site. Agreeing to coddle a war criminal who wanted to remove civil rights?
That's correct :). That was my first post, and this is my second. Very excited to join a community I've been observing for many years Anyways, neither agreeing nor disagreeing. Nor does it feel good anymore for me to live in the past and hold it against my reality. Rather something that I've learnt recently and hold true to my heart is this: "The highest form of wisdom is kindness". It feels good for me to see someone else being able to occupy that same space (regarding Ellen here). I understand where you're coming from though. Thank you
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Wasn't everyone just laughing and talking about having a beer with Bush when he couldn't put a poncho on a little while ago?
 

Agar25

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Apr 12, 2018
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Class loyalty trumps anything, including LGBT rights, for rich liberals. I don't know how many times people have to be slapped in the face with this. Ellen sucks for sure but the problem goes deeper than that.
And (among other things) considering how fiercely our community can come to protect its most famous members.. idk how and where we’d even begin to have this conversation.
 

Tracygill

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Nov 2, 2017
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The Left
Yall need to chill and take a walk outside.
Ok, I'll just walk out the door then. Oh shit, the door is stuck. Looking out the window I see something is blocking the door.

It's dead firefighters from ground zero, dead kids from iraq, dead people from new orleans, dead civilians from afghanistan, dead civilians from syria, dead civilians from yemen, dead civilians from palestine, dead civilians from lebanon, dead american soldiers, dead innocent people from torture black sites, dead families who became homeless when they lost their homes in the 2007 financial crisis, people who died because they couldn't afford medicine, and the corpses from the billions of people that will die due to climate change.

I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to get this door open and walk out of it.
 
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Clay

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Oct 29, 2017
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Nice sentiment, but you can "be kind" to someone without going to a game with them.
 

Double 0

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Nov 5, 2017
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White Americans really tend to suck at this distinction when dealing with other white Americans, but there is a difference between being kind to people who suck and being friends with them.

I will never, ever be friends with guys like Bush. I can be kind to or around them if need be.

One signifies your behavior, the other who you are. I am not the guy who wants or allows himself to be friends with bigots and terrible people.
 

Arrowgigantic

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Nov 25, 2017
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Rosie and Ellen can both eat shit. Barack always has to consider that not being "presidential" has potentially fatal consequences for him and so he is occasionally going to have to eat shit. I'm not saying Obama is an angel, far from it. I mean, he should have packaged up W for the Hague at his earliest opportunity. But being friendly with W when he shows up at John McCain's funeral is a lot different from what Rosie and Ellen are doing.
 

Lesath

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah, listening to each other sounds nice but he appointed two of the Supreme Court justices "deliberating" on whether or not trans people could exist so she can just go fuck herself.
 

CloseTalker

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't have nearly enough passion in me to dislike Ellen. She's put more good in the world than me, and everyone in this thread combined, and I don't need to love every decision she makes.
 

usagi704

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User Warned: Hostility towards other members
According to some of you chuming it with a war criminal is A-OK.
 
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Yasuke

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Oct 25, 2017
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"I have friends that are war criminals."

White people will almost always prioritize whiteness over any of their other identities.
Yep.

Unfortunately, this isn’t just a white thing. All demographics tend to identify as whatever gives them the most privilege when they’re able. You see it in the relationships between straight and gay people/of color, black men and women, and so on. It’s the reason there’s no being on the planet more shitted on than queer, black women, who don’t have a leg to stand on.
 

Helio

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Oct 28, 2017
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Damn I hope not. I think part of the reason Bush got off light comparatively is because he dodged the rise of social media.
It will happen and Bush didn't get off light. People were calling him evil and stupid since day one and it's only recently that liberals began to rehabilitate Bush's image. It was almost a year ago when liberals fawned over Bush because he gave Michelle Obama some candy
 

Chaos Legion

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Oct 30, 2017
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I hope that you never have to fear the possibility of it being 100% legal to fire you simply for being who you are.
And as a minority who also faces daily discrimination, I empathize and truly am saddened this is even a subject of discussion in 2019.

Doesn't mean I'm going to against my upbringing and religion and hold hate for every single person I disagree with.

I digress.
 

UF_C

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Oct 25, 2017
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I was at an event with GW last night. He mentioned how shocked he was that people were shocked that he could get along with Ellen. He said that politics these days is too focused on who is the enemy instead of trying to be friends. He spoke about accepting the differences of others and how our diversity is a strength especially in regard to our immigration policies.

You all see a monster from a decade ago and what I saw was a human being with all the pros and the cons of being human.

Our country is so fucked up right now in how we treat people we may disagree with. We see it everyday on social media and even on ERA. Things will turn but it’s going to take work and compassion. Something that we rarely see much of today. This whole thread is desperate and makes me sad. We can do better.
 

Subpar Scrub

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Oct 25, 2017
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“Let’s all just love each other” is bullshit. Class war now and forever.
Why are you putting those words in quotation marks as if I used them in that way? Putting “just” in there is disingenuous to my original point, but don’t stop me from pushing your agenda by misrepresenting other’s posts 👍🏼

Don’t @ me if you’re gonna lie pls
 

Menchi

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Oct 28, 2017
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Meh, her sitting with George Bush isn’t that big a deal, they all do that shit, so highlighting her over others is whatever...

What IS a big deal, is going on from there, to tell people who are literally being killed, isolated, tortured and systematically oppressed, to “be kind” to the people who are doing this to them. She says this, being a member of one of the groups being treated this way.

It’s absolutely ridiculous, and fuels the view that monstrous stances such as those, are just difference of opinions...

Bloody idiotic.
 
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Ivalice

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Oct 25, 2017
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I was at an event with GW last night. He mentioned how shocked he was that people were shocked that he could get along with Ellen. He said that politics these days is too focused on who is the enemy instead of trying to be friends. He spoke about accepting the differences of others and how our diversity is a strength especially in regard to our immigration policies.

You all see a monster from a decade ago and what I saw was a human being with all the pros and the cons of being human.

Our country is so fucked up right now in how we treat people we may disagree with. We see it everyday on social media and even on ERA. Things will turn but it’s going to take work and compassion. Something that we rarely see much of today. This whole thread is desperate and makes me sad. We can do better.
This is fine in a vacuum but you are talking about George W. Bush, the man who started the Iraq War under lies and caused the deaths of more than half a million lives and displaced many millions more. Are you serious with this post?
 

Mekanos

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Oct 17, 2018
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I was at an event with GW last night. He mentioned how shocked he was that people were shocked that he could get along with Ellen. He said that politics these days is too focused on who is the enemy instead of trying to be friends. He spoke about accepting the differences of others and how our diversity is a strength especially in regard to our immigration policies.

You all see a monster from a decade ago and what I saw was a human being with all the pros and the cons of being human.

Our country is so fucked up right now in how we treat people we may disagree with. We see it everyday on social media and even on ERA. Things will turn but it’s going to take work and compassion. Something that we rarely see much of today. This whole thread is desperate and makes me sad. We can do better.
Bush has the blood of millions of brown people on his hands. This goes far beyond "disagreeing." He can fuck off to a Texas ranch and never emerge into society again for all I care.
 

Tain

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Oct 25, 2017
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I was at an event with GW last night. He mentioned how shocked he was that people were shocked that he could get along with Ellen. He said that politics these days is too focused on who is the enemy instead of trying to be friends. He spoke about accepting the differences of others and how our diversity is a strength especially in regard to our immigration policies.

You all see a monster from a decade ago and what I saw was a human being with all the pros and the cons of being human.

Our country is so fucked up right now in how we treat people we may disagree with. We see it everyday on social media and even on ERA. Things will turn but it’s going to take work and compassion. Something that we rarely see much of today. This whole thread is desperate and makes me sad. We can do better.
this ignores the material reality of those whose lives were utterly fucking decimated by what bush's administration started

clearly you're fine looking beyond that, but it's ethically barren to do so
 

Dmax3901

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Oct 25, 2017
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I was at an event with GW last night. He mentioned how shocked he was that people were shocked that he could get along with Ellen. He said that politics these days is too focused on who is the enemy instead of trying to be friends. He spoke about accepting the differences of others and how our diversity is a strength especially in regard to our immigration policies.

You all see a monster from a decade ago and what I saw was a human being with all the pros and the cons of being human.

Our country is so fucked up right now in how we treat people we may disagree with. We see it everyday on social media and even on ERA. Things will turn but it’s going to take work and compassion. Something that we rarely see much of today. This whole thread is desperate and makes me sad. We can do better.
If there's no accountability then there will be no change.
 

Helio

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Oct 28, 2017
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I was at an event with Ed Kemper last night. He mentioned how shocked he was that people were shocked that he could get along with Ellen. He said that politics these days is too focused on who is the enemy instead of trying to be friends. He spoke about accepting the differences of others and how our diversity is a strength especially in regard to our immigration policies.

You all see a monster from a decade ago and what I saw was a human being with all the pros and the cons of being human.

Our country is so fucked up right now in how we treat people we may disagree with. We see it everyday on social media and even on ERA. Things will turn but it’s going to take work and compassion. Something that we rarely see much of today. This whole thread is desperate and makes me sad. We can do better.