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‘Venom’ Co-Creator Says Film Critics Were Too Old to Appreciate Tom Hardy Film
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this was awesome and fun
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You could use this thinking with Venom as well. Not like people were clamoring or demanding a Venom movie.
The difference is that we all ready had a Spider-Man
Venom never had his own main film just a feature. Even though yes know one asked for it , just Sony trying to build their own Universe which might be coming to fruition
The comedic sections of Venom were the only thing that worked. Otherwise it felt like whole sections of the movie were cut out of the movie.
Agreed. It wasn't good by the usual critical metrics, but I still had fun watching it.
And I preferred Hardy to Topher Grace, but I also hate Topher Grace, so that was a given for me
And you don't think they're not building a cinematic universe for Into the Spider-verse? A film that already has a sequel and spin offs in the works?
I don't think it will be as profitable or popular like the live action ones
I think it would make good television
it will be superior in every single way that actually matters.
A critics job is to critically analyze.
Its in the job description. Not to gauge mass market appeal.
Well, finished it. I liked parts of it alot. Riot vs venom was a low part. Venom vs people was the high parts.
From my perspective Venom scored precisely what I expected the other movies in the marvel franchise to score. They're all campy and corny movies which are, at times, fun to watch and are, at other times, just plain boring. Venom was fun to watch since it had some actual character development even if it was relatively poorly executed.
If anything what amazed me more was to see the high scores some of the other movies in the other marvel franchises have scored. I'd never go to a marvel movie expecting to experience some sort of cerebral masterclass in film making. They're all "turn your brain off and enjoy the show" type films.
If anything what amazed me more was to see the high scores some of the other movies in the other marvel franchises have scored. I'd never go to a marvel movie expecting to experience some sort of cerebral masterclass in film making. They're all "turn your brain off and enjoy the show" type films.
I'm in my mid-20s and thought the only reason it wasn't the worst film of the year is because this year had the worst Star Wars ever (Solo), the blandest Peter Jackson film ever (Mortal Engines), and four of the worst wide-release horror films in my lifetime (The Predator, Blumhouse's Truth or Dare, Winchester, and Possession of Hannah Grace). It was notably shit in a year that had a fair amount of competition in that department
It enters this weird paradox where it's so irredeemably awful it's fantastic.
It feels like a movie you'd see testing on a plasma in Best Buy circa 2005 and I not only accepted that, but welcomed it.
It feels like a movie you'd see testing on a plasma in Best Buy circa 2005 and I not only accepted that, but welcomed it.
its a fun b-movie romp, but im not surprised the people most inclined to critically analyze a film (yknow... CRITICS) dont like it. Its a sloppily put together movie
People really like the subsection of big blockbuster movies that are the dumb fun ones. It explains how Fast and Furious and Transformers managed to live so long as franchises.
Gonna quote this for the future because if Sony pictures is known for anything, it's for royally screwing up sequels for a potentially good franchise start.
For real... it's ok to like a bad film. Stop trying to convince me the film is good though. Because it definitely isn't.
movie was nowhere near as bad as a Transformers flick, and far from as offensive (venom is also far from F&F quality imo)
a common sentiment is that all the parts that are Eddie and Venom are fun and everything else about the movie sucks, which I honestly wouldn't disagree with but the movie is centered around Eddie/Venom so it's mostly an enjoyable experience
i went in looking to see it ironically and groan through it, but it earnestly won me over
a common sentiment is that all the parts that are Eddie and Venom are fun and everything else about the movie sucks, which I honestly wouldn't disagree with but the movie is centered around Eddie/Venom so it's mostly an enjoyable experience
i went in looking to see it ironically and groan through it, but it earnestly won me over
Why do I get the feeling half the people saying it was "fun" also probably tore The Last Jedi to shit?
They did the get the symbiote design right and yeah getting the symbiote from a comet makes more sense than Spider-Man sewing it into a new suit on Battleworld...but 85% of Venom's character is his and the symbiote's mutual hatred of Spider-Man. Eddie Brock was a journalist with serious ethics problems with too big an ego to admit he done fucked up thus blaming Spider-Man. The symbiote feels spurned that Spidey rejected it and finds an ally.
Rami actually got that part right but I agree Topher was miscast and the venom design was puny: his motivations were spot on though...he probably would have worked if he was teased via backstory in 3 and the main villain in the never to be Rami Spider-Man 4.
They did the get the symbiote design right and yeah getting the symbiote from a comet makes more sense than Spider-Man sewing it into a new suit on Battleworld...but 85% of Venom's character is his and the symbiote's mutual hatred of Spider-Man. Eddie Brock was a journalist with serious ethics problems with too big an ego to admit he done fucked up thus blaming Spider-Man. The symbiote feels spurned that Spidey rejected it and finds an ally.
Rami actually got that part right but I agree Topher was miscast and the venom design was puny: his motivations were spot on though...he probably would have worked if he was teased via backstory in 3 and the main villain in the never to be Rami Spider-Man 4.
I loved both Venom and the Last Jedi.
And no, you're wrong. Venom was like you described in the first few issues of his life but he became his own characters with his own storyline for more then 20 years now. Stop perpetuating the idea that Venom only cares about Spidey when it's just false.
And no, Raimi butchered Venom by making him Carnage.
Would you like me to unseal my copies Of Amazing Spider-Man 299-301 and provide scans? We're talking about McFarlane's origin of the character so I'm 100% right.
Admittedly I haven't followed the comics since the late 90's: did they change his back story or something?
Venom looks cool though and a lot of people remember him from back when we were younger.
This Spider verse thing just seems confusing. Like why are there so many spidermen. Then there is a pig that has spiderman powers. That shit right there comes off as dumber than anything Venom related. I'm not saying the movie is bad, it could be excellent as far as I know. I'm just saying that as a casual comic fan when I see a trailer of 10 spidermen and one is a pig I lose all interest.
Man, this is some quality nonsense right here. People so goddamn tribal these days, "Oh some people enjoyed something that I didn't? They're probably TLJ haters then!!"
To be fair, the Fast and Furious franchise truly exploded when the films actually became good. Fast Five is a legitimately great action film and 6-7 are really good too.
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen is just a bad movie from every point of film making.