I get the historical aspect of Altered Beast. The first pack-in. But many, I'm tired of it taking a slot.
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I'm also hoping at least one sports game makes it on here, just because of how important they were to the system
Also the Ooze was on that Sega Heroes survey earlier this week, so at least one person at Sega remembers that game exists
Also the Ooze was on that Sega Heroes survey earlier this week, so at least one person at Sega remembers that game exists
The OST is amazing and people suck for not appreciating it but like you said, SoA completely destroyed the game balance and because of this, it's completely understandable why the game isn't loved by many outside of Japan.
Great list so far.
I really hope they manage to put a sneaky Mega CD game or two in there... Preferably Sol Feace...
But I really hope this sells well, I'm getting one for my daughter, one for my mum (who got me the mega drive when it came out) and maybe one for my son when he is older.
But I want a Saturn one next. So many amazing games lost it seems
I really hope they manage to put a sneaky Mega CD game or two in there... Preferably Sol Feace...
But I really hope this sells well, I'm getting one for my daughter, one for my mum (who got me the mega drive when it came out) and maybe one for my son when he is older.
But I want a Saturn one next. So many amazing games lost it seems
Altered Beast is the definition of a wasted slot. Essentially like Sega's Urban Champion.
Sega and M2 also released it on the Japanese Wii Virtual Console way back so it's not completely uncharted ground for them. Actually other than the Konami games and World of Illusion I believe everything so far was already on JP VC or other Sega/M2 joints (Sega Ages, 3D Classics, etc).
I'm of two minds about it. It's NOT a good game, but it's also incredibly nostalgic for anyone who purchased a Genesis before Sonic the Hedgehog became the pack-in. So in that sense, I get why it's here and I wouldn't put it in the same category as something like Urban Champion.
The fact that only the Japanese version comes packaged with 6-button controllers has me wondering what that might imply for possible differences in the game line-up. So, I checked out the Sega JP archives site for a full list of 6-button enhanced games that were released in Japan.
https://sega.jp/history/hard/megadrive/software.html
https://sega.jp/history/hard/megadrive/software_l.html
Published by Sega:
Ex-Ranza / Ranger-X
Art of Fighting
Eternal Champions
Virtua Racing
Bare Knuckle III / Streets of Rage III
Greatest Heavyweights
Yu Yu Hakusho Makyo Toitsusen*
Samurai Spirits / Samurai Shodown
Story of Thor / Beyond Oasis
Published by 3rd party licensees:
Street Fighter II' Plus / Street Fighter II' Special Champion Edition
MiG-29 Fighter Pilot
Dyna Brothers 2*
Battle Mania Daiginjo / Trouble Shooter Vintage*
Davis Cup Tennis
Dragon Ball Z Buyu Retsuden*
Mortal Kombat
Fatal Fury 2
Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers
Mortal Kombat II
Gouketsuji Ichizoku / Power Instinct*
NFL Quarterback Club '95
True Lies
Maximum Carnage
Batman Forever
* Japan exclusive
So, Dyna Brothers 2 is the only announced game on the Japanese system that's on this list. None of the other Japan-exclusive games on this list strike me as an obvious inclusion. Power Instinct is an Atlus game, so it wouldn't be difficult to include it now that Atlus itself lives under Sega's umbrella, but it's not exactly a marquee title for the system. All the other Japanese exclusives here would have some kind of license to worry about before they could be included.
I wouldn't expect games like Eternal Champions, Streets of Rage III, Street Fighter, or Mortal Kombat to show up on the JP list if they weren't also showing up on the US roster as well, and those games are crippled when played on a 3-button pad.
Although I also know that Contra is a 6-button enhanced game, despite that distinction not being noted on the linked website above. I think you switched between free shot mode and fixed shot mode with the X button.
I don't remember at all what the XYZ buttons are used for in Battle Mania II and I know that I've beaten that game in the past.
And although there hasn't been any indication that they've considered including CD or 32X games on this system, I decided to check those pages as well out of curiosity:
https://sega.jp/history/hard/mega-cd/software.html
https://sega.jp/history/hard/mega-cd/software_l.html
https://sega.jp/history/hard/super32x/software.html
https://sega.jp/history/hard/super32x/software_l.html
Sega CD 1st party:
Wing Commander
Sega CD 3rd party:
Might and Magic III*
Shin Megami Tensei*
Mortal Kombat
WWF Mania Tour / WWF Rage in the Cage
Fatal Fury Special
32X 1st party:
Star Wars Arcade
DOOM
Virtua Racing Deluxe
After Burner Complete
Cyber Brawl / Cosmic Carnage
Metal Head
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Stellar Assault
32X 3rd party:
Mortal Kombat II
NFL Quarterback Club '95
The original Shin Megami Tensei would be an interesting novelty for legacy reasons, and it's another Atlus get, but again, not exactly a significant representative for the system.
https://sega.jp/history/hard/megadrive/software.html
https://sega.jp/history/hard/megadrive/software_l.html
Published by Sega:
Ex-Ranza / Ranger-X
Art of Fighting
Eternal Champions
Virtua Racing
Bare Knuckle III / Streets of Rage III
Greatest Heavyweights
Yu Yu Hakusho Makyo Toitsusen*
Samurai Spirits / Samurai Shodown
Story of Thor / Beyond Oasis
Published by 3rd party licensees:
Street Fighter II' Plus / Street Fighter II' Special Champion Edition
MiG-29 Fighter Pilot
Dyna Brothers 2*
Battle Mania Daiginjo / Trouble Shooter Vintage*
Davis Cup Tennis
Dragon Ball Z Buyu Retsuden*
Mortal Kombat
Fatal Fury 2
Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers
Mortal Kombat II
Gouketsuji Ichizoku / Power Instinct*
NFL Quarterback Club '95
True Lies
Maximum Carnage
Batman Forever
* Japan exclusive
So, Dyna Brothers 2 is the only announced game on the Japanese system that's on this list. None of the other Japan-exclusive games on this list strike me as an obvious inclusion. Power Instinct is an Atlus game, so it wouldn't be difficult to include it now that Atlus itself lives under Sega's umbrella, but it's not exactly a marquee title for the system. All the other Japanese exclusives here would have some kind of license to worry about before they could be included.
I wouldn't expect games like Eternal Champions, Streets of Rage III, Street Fighter, or Mortal Kombat to show up on the JP list if they weren't also showing up on the US roster as well, and those games are crippled when played on a 3-button pad.
Although I also know that Contra is a 6-button enhanced game, despite that distinction not being noted on the linked website above. I think you switched between free shot mode and fixed shot mode with the X button.
I don't remember at all what the XYZ buttons are used for in Battle Mania II and I know that I've beaten that game in the past.
And although there hasn't been any indication that they've considered including CD or 32X games on this system, I decided to check those pages as well out of curiosity:
https://sega.jp/history/hard/mega-cd/software.html
https://sega.jp/history/hard/mega-cd/software_l.html
https://sega.jp/history/hard/super32x/software.html
https://sega.jp/history/hard/super32x/software_l.html
Sega CD 1st party:
Wing Commander
Sega CD 3rd party:
Might and Magic III*
Shin Megami Tensei*
Mortal Kombat
WWF Mania Tour / WWF Rage in the Cage
Fatal Fury Special
32X 1st party:
Star Wars Arcade
DOOM
Virtua Racing Deluxe
After Burner Complete
Cyber Brawl / Cosmic Carnage
Metal Head
GOLF MAGAZINE PRESENTS 36 GREAT HOLES STARRING FRED COUPLES
Stellar Assault
32X 3rd party:
Mortal Kombat II
NFL Quarterback Club '95
The original Shin Megami Tensei would be an interesting novelty for legacy reasons, and it's another Atlus get, but again, not exactly a significant representative for the system.
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crazy good games on there. best opportunity to check out the MD library if you haven't. i own most of these games already but i gotta have it anyway. very curious how good the 6B controllers will be.
Exactly. When I bought mine that was the pack-in.
So, while it's not a great game, it was my introduction to the Genesis.
Altered Beast has a great atmosphere in terms of visual design and music. I wouldn't play it more than once or twice at a time but, like, I'd actually touch it unlike fucking Super Thunder Blade. Bleaurgh.
I actually think the real dud of this collection is Space Harrier 2. It really doesn't need to be here.
and Ecco the Dolphin *runs*
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Count me in the "I don't care for Altered Beast but understand it's historical significance to the Genesis library" camp.
Kinda feel the same about Space Harrier II, IMO. I'd have went with Super Hang On.
Kinda feel the same about Space Harrier II, IMO. I'd have went with Super Hang On.
I preordered from Amazon. This lineup is already looking strong and Genesis was my main console at the time. Hoping for Aladdin, Sunset Riders, Road Rash 2, Moonwalker, Strider, Quackshot and Eternal Champions.
I doubt it happens but if they do put one please let it be NHL 94, god damn I loved that game.
Yeah. While playing Shenmue, Hang On is/was my jam. I've never touch Space Harrier.
Im one of the few who actually liked Urban Champion. Played it a lot on my NES so it was a great addition to the NES classic.
It wasn't on the NES Classic! Well, unless you hacked it.
My NES Classic has hundreds of games and not an Urban Champion in sight.
The chances of M2 doing bad emulation is basically zero.
FYI, PlayAsia has all three versions available for pre-order:
https://www.play-asia.com/search/mega+drive+mini
https://www.play-asia.com/search/mega+drive+mini
The only concern/complaint that i have with M2 is that their image filter options are usually not that great, the bilinear + scanline one is way too dark and the "vintage" crt shader has too much chromatic aberration on it.
I agree most capcom reprogrammed games are decent but don't deserve a precious slot on the Mini. Capcom was the king of the Saturn, Konami of the Megadrive.
We'll need both of their licences on the Sega CD mini (teased by Sega if the Megadrive succeed) ;)
*wakes up to see US list updated*
Okay, getting Castle of Illusion added as well is super cool, not to mention that Earthworm Jim leak turned out to be true. Neat to see Super Fantasy Zone actually coming over.
BUT THERE'S NO MUSHA, WHHHYYYYYY
Also noticed that with the first & 2nd list, there's been 4 region exclusive games so far. I guess when we know all 40 games, about 12-15 will be different overall.
& really, we had to wait for confirmation on Sonic 2? I mean, yeah, OF COURSE it'd be on there, but why make us wait? It slightly makes me hope that Musha gets confirmed with the 3rd or last wave, but I'm not getting my hopes up...
Okay, getting Castle of Illusion added as well is super cool, not to mention that Earthworm Jim leak turned out to be true. Neat to see Super Fantasy Zone actually coming over.
BUT THERE'S NO MUSHA, WHHHYYYYYY
Also noticed that with the first & 2nd list, there's been 4 region exclusive games so far. I guess when we know all 40 games, about 12-15 will be different overall.
& really, we had to wait for confirmation on Sonic 2? I mean, yeah, OF COURSE it'd be on there, but why make us wait? It slightly makes me hope that Musha gets confirmed with the 3rd or last wave, but I'm not getting my hopes up...
I've already pre-ordered it, but get me Sonic 3 & Knuckles finally handled by M2 and I'll be hyped as fucked...that being said, the line-up is looking solid so far, still disappointed about the 3 button controller, but hopefully the retrobit ones can be compatible.
Hopefully Sega's western branches decide to sell the 6-button controllers separately. They really should offer consumers the option to purchase one.
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M2 are fantastic but yeah, their scanline filters tend to be pretty dark.
I've been spoiled rotten on CRT filters in general by Sonic Mania, though. I've yet to see one that looks as good.
As an aside, I picked up one of the Retrobit 6 button controllers today. It'd be nice if this ended up working with the Mini.
Oh yeah, good call actually.If there's a Capcom game that deserves to be here (besides MERCS) it's Chiki-Chiki Boys!
It rises.
Would have been nice since then it may have had games worth playing.
100 percent. It was translated the last generation and released on Wii, 360 and PS3 as well.
This was honestly one of the most random things I've ever seen a video game company do
Localize a 20 year old game that no one has ever heard of save for a few hard core fans. Just as weird as adding Puyo Tsu online and adding motion controls to Space Harrier for the VC
All those amazing shaders on Retroarch have spoiled me a lot, and it's really hard to go back.
I think good crt filters are almost as important as emulation quality, and it's great to see how pretty much every retrogame rerelease today offers that kind of option at least, i'll never get the "I'M JUST HAPPY WITH GIANT RAW PIXELS BLASTED ALL OVER MY 8K PANEL" crowd.
I would just be happy enough with a sufficiently bright scanline option, though.
I could almost see them not doing it just because of how painfully obvious it would be
I just get frustrated that few shaders meet the balance of "this was only there because it was baked into the tech" and "this is specifically something that developers thought about in their games' graphic design" as the composite blur filter that Fusion provides. I've never been into the scanlines thing and stuff like chromatic aberration and rainbow banding are things I use emulation to get away from.
this is on my wishlist too. i'd imagine it has a lot of very vocal fans in Japan. maybe there'll be a Valis game too?
Holy shit at PROBOTECTOR being included! I will buy two.
Yeah, it's not bad actually but the soundtrack is a flop.
No games in this latest 10 that I know I care for but half the fun of these mini systems is giving games a first/second! Seeing Disney and EWJ gives some hope for EA doing something not evil by way of hooking up with Sega ta put General Chaos and Road Rash on this thing.
Thats 3 / 20 games that're less good without a 6 button pad.
Say it with me everyone!
FUCK
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Comix Zone, Contra Hard Corps, Shinobi III: Return of the Ninja Master
Thats 3 / 20 games that're less good without a 6 button pad.
Say it with me everyone!
FUCK
NOSTALGIA
Yeah, agreed. Nowhere near as good as the original but I'm still fond of it. Nostalgia I guess
lol
I can already see myself ending up in the same situation as in the 90s: one 6-button pad for me and a buddy next to me, getting obliterated in Super Street Fighter 2 with his 3-button pad. :P